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#101 Detroit # 1 Fan

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Posted 30 October 2011 - 09:46 PM

So you leave in Cleary, who has yet to have a good game, but scratch Hudler, who has been one of the team's better forwards?

Also, your fourth line isn't just leftovers; it's actually an effective checking line with three solid defensive forwards.


My bad, totally forgot about Hudler. Take Miller out and get Jiri in there, he's actually been pretty good this season (but not lately and thus I forgot about him :yowza:)

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Posted 30 October 2011 - 10:21 PM

They were split up when Emmerton was out, but together most of the time elsewise. Personally, I think Bert looks out of place on that line. 3 goals in 9 games certainly isn't bad for a 3rd line, but I think they'd be even better without Bert.

Hank-Pav-Homer (Homer has looked good the past two games)
Huds-Flip-Mule (4 games without a goal, but I still think they can work)
Abby-Helm-Cleary (Maybe that will spark Clears)
Miller-Emmy-Eaves (Solid defensive line)


This is close, except I would switch Abdelkader and Eaves to get the Cleary/Helm/Eaves line out there. Also, take Miller out for Bertuzzi.


Z/Dats/Homer
Huds/Flip/Mule
Cleary/Helm/Eaves
Abby/Emmy/Bertuzzi

This leaves Miller and Mursak. Assuming you rotate them in for Eaves, Homer, and Emmerton, then the following options are available:

Eaves out: Mursak slots directly for Eaves; Miller takes Abs' spot, one of Abs or Emmerton takes Eaves' spot.
Homer out: Bert to first line, Miller/Mursak in his place.
Emmerton out: Abs to center, Miller/Mursak on wing.

Edited by eva unit zero, 30 October 2011 - 10:22 PM.

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 01:36 PM

Babcock's revamped the lines again, post-Nyquist (link - http://www.mlive.com...uist_has_g.html)

Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Holmstrom
Nyquist-Franzen-Bertuzzi
Cleary-Filppula-Abdelkader
Miller-Helm-Eaves
*Hudler
*Emmerton

Lidstrom-White
Kronwall-Kindl
Ericsson-Stuart
*Commodore

Howard
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Posted 01 November 2011 - 01:42 PM

Babcock's revamped the lines again, post-Nyquist (link - http://www.mlive.com...uist_has_g.html)

Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Holmstrom
Nyquist-Franzen-Bertuzzi
Cleary-Filppula-Abdelkader
Miller-Helm-Eaves
*Hudler
*Emmerton

Lidstrom-White
Kronwall-Kindl
Ericsson-Stuart
*Commodore

Howard
Conklin


I love Nyquist being inserted into the top six, but man, I've got a lot of problems with these new line combos.

1) Why in the world is Franzen still centering a line!?

2) Why in the world is Filppula now in the bottom six!?

3) Why in the world is Bertuzzi being rewarded for such horrible play!?

4) Why in the world is Emmerton being punished for such excellent play!?

5) New D pairings?? Necessary?? We'll see.

#105 St. Michael (the Red Wing)

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 02:01 PM

I love Nyquist being inserted into the top six, but man, I've got a lot of problems with these new line combos.

1) Why in the world is Franzen still centering a line!?

2) Why in the world is Filppula now in the bottom six!?

3) Why in the world is Bertuzzi being rewarded for such horrible play!?

4) Why in the world is Emmerton being punished for such excellent play!?

5) New D pairings?? Necessary?? We'll see.


I have some answers to your questions although they might not be correct. :P

1) Babs likes to have Franzen taking faceoffs. Don't know what his win % is mind you.

2) Fip like a lot of others has cooled down considerably. Time to mix things up? I'm liking the third line tbh.

3) Good question he hasn't been good at all.

4) Emmerton hasn't played well since the Washington game when he's been in the lineup. Not bad but a couple of costly turnovers in that Washington game that probably made Babs cringeworthy.

5)Good question I guess it can't hurt too much at this point right? :D

Edited by St. Michael (the Red Wing), 01 November 2011 - 02:04 PM.


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Posted 01 November 2011 - 04:47 PM

Babcock's revamped the lines again, post-Nyquist (link - http://www.mlive.com...uist_has_g.html)

Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Holmstrom
Nyquist-Franzen-Bertuzzi
Cleary-Filppula-Abdelkader
Miller-Helm-Eaves
*Hudler
*Emmerton

Lidstrom-White
Kronwall-Kindl
Ericsson-Stuart
*Commodore

Howard
Conklin

Ugh, I still don't like that second line and swap Helm and Abby.

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 04:57 PM

Ugh, I still don't like that second line and swap Helm and Abby.


I agree about the Helm and Abby Part..

I don't know what to make of Nyquist yet, but I am excited to see him play

Edited by HelmFan, 01 November 2011 - 04:59 PM.


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Posted 01 November 2011 - 09:38 PM

I love Mike Babcock, but did he use his brain tonight? Why oh why would you put Nyquist on a line with the lazy, floating Bertuzzi and the cold, floating Franzen? Its just a death-trap, I dont think they had one good scoring chance tonight, Franzen finished with 0 SOG. Franzen isnt an effective NHL centre, at least not yet, so why in the world did Babs think they would be effective together, its just madness. Give Gus a chance on a line that can carry and control the puck.

The lines should have looked something like this:

Filppula Datsyuk Holmstrom
Nyquist Zetterberg Franzen
Hudler Helm Eaves
Cleary Abdelkader Miller

Its laughable that Hudler was scratched before Cleary and Bertuzzi.

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 09:57 PM

Nyquist – Datsyuk – Helm
Eaves – Zetterberg – Franzen
Hudler – Filppula – Emmerton
Cleary – Abdelkader – Miller



Whichever line plays the best in the game gets the most minutes. If struggles continue then the players that look like they give a damn will be on one line together that plays the most while the floaters go on one line and play less.

Edited by dragonballgtz, 01 November 2011 - 10:05 PM.


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Posted 01 November 2011 - 10:06 PM

We need to get some lines to gel, because WE AREN'T GENERATING CHEMISTRY BY SWAPPING OUT THE 13TH AND 14TH FORWARDS!!!

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 10:13 PM

We need to get some lines to gel, because WE AREN'T GENERATING CHEMISTRY BY SWAPPING OUT THE 13TH AND 14TH FORWARDS!!!


The lines won't gel magically, unless the players put forth a great effort out there.

I just don't see any drive offensively right now.
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Posted 01 November 2011 - 10:22 PM

Okay. Things must be shaken up:

Boll-Konopka-Boulton
Janssen-Dorsett-Carcillo
Prust-Gillies-MacIntyre
McGrattan-Orr-Parros
Shelley

Carkner-Scott
Stoner-Engelland
Erskine-Vandermeer

Send Dats and Z down to Grand Rapids, while they are mentored on how to play hockey by Mitchell Callahan. Toss Hudler off the face of the earth. If GMR can secretly knock out Paul Holmgren, convince Lilja to come back to Detroit, destroy his Flyers contract, find an old copy of his Wings contract, and change the dates on it, I'll consider Lilja as a 7th defenseman, since I have taken over for Holland indefinitely while he boards a plane out of Detroit, following 194,620 death threats in the past hour. Any and all requests for trades or free agent signings can be made via PM, although they likely won't be taken seriously. I have contacted Amway, dropped their sponsorship, and the Detroit Red Wings are now being sponsored by hockeyfights.com. Welcome to a brand new era of Detroit Red Wings excellence.

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 10:24 PM

Okay. Things must be shaken up:

Boll-Konopka-Boulton
Janssen-Dorsett-Carcillo
Prust-Gillies-MacIntyre
McGrattan-Orr-Parros
Shelley

Carkner-Scott
Stoner-Engelland
Erskine-Vandermeer

Send Dats and Z down to Grand Rapids, while they are mentored on how to play hockey by Mitchell Callahan. Toss Hudler off the face of the earth. If GMR can secretly knock out Paul Holmgren, convince Lilja to come back to Detroit, destroy his Flyers contract, find an old copy of his Wings contract, and change the dates on it, I'll consider Lilja as a 7th defenseman, since I have taken over for Holland indefinitely while he boards a plane out of Detroit, following 194,620 death threats in the past hour. Any and all requests for trades or free agent signings can be made via PM, although they likely won't be taken seriously. I have contacted Amway, dropped their sponsorship, and the Detroit Red Wings are now being sponsored by hockeyfights.com. Welcome to a brand new era of Detroit Red Wings excellence.

Sincerely,

Bring Back the Bruise Bros


I guarantee you that lineup would fill the JLA every night.

Probably fill every other arena also.
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Posted 01 November 2011 - 10:35 PM

I love Mike Babcock, but did he use his brain tonight? Why oh why would you put Nyquist on a line with the lazy, floating Bertuzzi and the cold, floating Franzen? Its just a death-trap, I dont think they had one good scoring chance tonight, Franzen finished with 0 SOG. Franzen isnt an effective NHL centre, at least not yet, so why in the world did Babs think they would be effective together, its just madness. Give Gus a chance on a line that can carry and control the puck.

The lines should have looked something like this:

Filppula Datsyuk Holmstrom
Nyquist Zetterberg Franzen
Hudler Helm Eaves
Cleary Abdelkader Miller

Its laughable that Hudler was scratched before Cleary and Bertuzzi.


Those are almost the exact same lines I'd like to see us use:

Filppula-Datsyuk-Holmstrom
Nyquist-Zetterberg-Franzen
Hudler-Helm-Mursak
Cleary-Abdelkader-Eaves
*Emmerton
*Miller
*Bertuzzi (released once Mursak returns)

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 10:39 PM

I guarantee you that lineup would fill the JLA every night.

Probably fill every other arena also.

Well with this lineup, none of our skilled players will be getting pushed around. Nobody will go anywhere near our goaltender. 9,489 season tickets have been purchased since I took over for Mr. Holland. I've decided to keep Little Ceasars as a sponsor. You'll be assistant GM. What do you think about Arby's giving away a free order of curly fries when any Wing fights 3 times in one game?
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#116 St. Michael (the Red Wing)

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 10:48 PM

I don't give a f*** what the lines are right now. People need to put the puck in the net. There were a load full of chances tonight and no finish work. 3rd and 4th lines whatever they are need to start contributing.

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Posted 02 November 2011 - 02:57 PM

Redwings lines at practice today from Brian Hedger:

Hudler-Datsyuk-Cleary;

Franzen-Zetterberg-Bertuzzi;

Abdelkader-Helm-Filppula;

Miller-Emmerton-Holmstrom


:lol:

From a healthy scratch to the first line, your 2011-12 Detroit Red Wings!

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:huh:

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Forward Patrick Eaves had what Babcock termed "a maintenance day" and is questionable for Thursday.


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Edited by mjlegend, 02 November 2011 - 03:01 PM.


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Posted 02 November 2011 - 05:19 PM

Babcock changed the lines today - link: http://www.mlive.com...avel_datsy.html

Hudler-Datsyuk-Cleary
Franzen-Zetterberg-Bertuzzi
Filppula-Helm-Abdelkader
Miller-Emmerton-Holmstrom
Eaves(?)

Lidstrom-White
Kronwall-Stuart
Ericsson-Kindl
Commodore

Howard
Conklin

...Nyquist has been sent down.





I've been trying to give Babcock the benefit of the doubt, but seriously, wtf man. Hudler goes from healthy scratch to first line!? Nyquist gets sent down after one game!? Bertuzzi is on the second line!? Filppula is on the third line!? Get it together Babcock. You're making a fool of yourself right now. At least he FINALLY broke up Pav and Hank.

Please give me...

Filppula-Datsyuk-Hudler
Nyquist-Zetterberg-Franzen
Cleary-Helm-Abdelkader
Miller-Emmerton-Eaves
Holmstrom
Bertuzzi

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, PUT DATSYUK AND FILPPULA TOGETHER

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Posted 02 November 2011 - 06:16 PM

I guarantee you that lineup would fill Ford Field every night.



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Posted 02 November 2011 - 09:24 PM

Flip - Pav - Homer (Cleary/Eaves/Miller shifted in for defense or if Homer isn't working)
Mule - Hank - Hudler (Cleary/Eaves/Miller)
Abby - Helm - Cleary
Nyquist (or Tatar) - Emmerton - Eaves (or Miller)

I think Flip being bumped to the 3rd line is maybe to try to get more offense from that line. But that's what kids like Nyquist and Tatar are for. Let them play against other 4th lines and 3rd defense pairs and provide a spark rather than be pressured to score against better players. If they do well there, then try them in the top 6.





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