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#121 13dangledangle

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Posted 02 November 2011 - 09:46 PM

Babcock changed the lines today - link: http://www.mlive.com...avel_datsy.html

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, PUT DATSYUK AND FILPPULA TOGETHER



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Posted 02 November 2011 - 10:56 PM

Well with this lineup, none of our skilled players will be getting pushed around. Nobody will go anywhere near our goaltender. 9,489 season tickets have been purchased since I took over for Mr. Holland. I've decided to keep Little Ceasars as a sponsor. You'll be assistant GM. What do you think about Arby's giving away a free order of curly fries when any Wing fights 3 times in one game?


Ya gotta keep Hudler. If he's centering two enforcers, he'll score 300-400 goals because nobody will go near him. Prevention!
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Posted 02 November 2011 - 11:21 PM

If he is splitting up Pavs and Z, I would really like him to try these lines:

Filpulla- Datsyuk- Hudler (I think this could be a GREAT line. Speedy, skill, and it would force them all to shoot more)

Franzen- Zetterberg- Homer (Try the 3 swedes together and see what happens. Neither Bert or Cleary are playing good enough to be on the 2nd line and Homer has)

Cleary- Helm- Bertuzzi (solid 3rd line when playing well)

Eaves- Abs- Miller (Solid checking line)

I think this would be the best bet for the Wings for now.

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 07:40 AM

If he is splitting up Pavs and Z, I would really like him to try these lines:

Filpulla- Datsyuk- Hudler (I think this could be a GREAT line. Speedy, skill, and it would force them all to shoot more)

Franzen- Zetterberg- Homer (Try the 3 swedes together and see what happens. Neither Bert or Cleary are playing good enough to be on the 2nd line and Homer has)

Cleary- Helm- Bertuzzi (solid 3rd line when playing well)

Eaves- Abs- Miller (Solid checking line)

I think this would be the best bet for the Wings for now.


Fill - Dats - Franzen (line needs that guy who will get the messy goals in, aka mule. plus mule and fill have great chemistry. i also really wanna see fill and dats playing together more as well)

Homer - Z - Huds (i actually like the way homer looks out there right now. huds deserves another shot at the top 6 as well, he had some spark this season b4 our 5 game slump)

Cleary - Helm - Tuzzi (im actually worried helm and cleary will make tuzzi work too hard and he'll rack up more penalties lol, but good line)

Miller - Abby - Eaves (typical fourth line. nothing wrong with that)

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 07:45 AM

whole team needs to be shaken up right now. including D

Lids - Stuart
Kronner - White
Ericsson - Kindl

maybe move ericsson or kindl up and see what that does?
or give smith or commie a shot. ppl need to feel the burn on their ass

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 10:53 AM

Kindl out; Commodore in.
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Posted 03 November 2011 - 01:10 PM

http://www.mlive.com...dore_to_ma.html

Here is Detroit's lineup:

Hudler-Datsyuk-Cleary
Franzen-Zetterberg-Bertuzzi
Filppula-Helm-Abdelkader
Miller-Emmerton-Holmstrom

Lidstrom-White
Kronwall-Stuart
Ericsson-Commodore

Howard (starting)
Conklin


I know that the lines get mixed up a lot, but looking at this fourth line.....it's just SO painful. What is that line supposed to provide?

Edited by Zetts, 03 November 2011 - 01:10 PM.


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Posted 03 November 2011 - 10:24 PM

I'm changing my dream line...a lot.

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 10:39 PM

Samsonov-Hudler-Tlusty
Prucha-Filatov-Dvorak
Bergfors-Leino-Olesz
Kulemin-Sykora-Tedenby
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Posted 03 November 2011 - 10:46 PM

Samsonov-Hudler-Tlusty
Prucha-Filatov-Dvorak
Bergfors-Leino-Olesz
Kulemin-Sykora-Tedenby


You wuss.
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Posted 03 November 2011 - 10:56 PM

You wuss.

I never listed the defense.

Lebda-Jurcina
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Posted 04 November 2011 - 12:37 PM

babcock's revamped the lines again, for practice. 11/4

Cleary-Datsyuk-Bertuzzi
Filppula-Zetterberg-Franzen
Hudler-Helm-Abdelkader
Miller-Emmerton-Holmstrom
*Eaves

Lidstrom-White
Kronwall-Stuart
Ericsson-Kindl/Commodore

Howard
Conklin

...Put your best player with two guys that can't do anything with the puck? Seems pretty f-ing stupid to me.

#133 mmamolo

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 02:20 PM

Fill - Dats - Franzen (line needs that guy who will get the messy goals in, aka mule. plus mule and fill have great chemistry. i also really wanna see fill and dats playing together more as well)

Homer - Z - Huds (i actually like the way homer looks out there right now. huds deserves another shot at the top 6 as well, he had some spark this season b4 our 5 game slump)

Cleary - Helm - Tuzzi (im actually worried helm and cleary will make tuzzi work too hard and he'll rack up more penalties lol, but good line)

Miller - Abby - Eaves (typical fourth line. nothing wrong with that)


That's exactly what I would want to see. That or switch Hudler and Filppula.

Despite how badly Cleary and Bertuzzi are playing I think they'd fit well with Helm and if they got down to a grinding style they'd be better off for it. I think Cleary and Bertuzzi sometimes struggle when they are put with skill guys.
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Posted 04 November 2011 - 03:30 PM

Filppula-Datsyuk-Holmstrom/Hudler (Datsyuk-Hudler have had success to a degree together, Filppula-Datsyuk-Holmstrom has been familar and successful in the past)

Franzen-Zetterberg-Cleary (absolutely dynamite defensive line in the 2009 playoffs, all three are offensively capable obviously)

Abdelkader-Helm-Bertuzzi (successful early in the season)

Miller/Hudler-Emmerton-Eaves/Hudler/Holmstrom (not bad alternatives for a 4th)

Think that covers everybody.

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 06:49 PM

Ya gotta keep Hudler. If he's centering two enforcers, he'll score 300-400 goals because nobody will go near him. Prevention!

If only he knew when to shoot the puck! He'd score 700-800!!!!
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Posted 05 November 2011 - 08:21 PM

here's to bertuzzi's "illness" lasting the entire season (without having any serious long-term impacts, of course)

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Posted 06 November 2011 - 11:04 AM

HERE'S HOW YOU FIX THE DAMN LINES:

Filppula-Datsyuk-Holmstrom
Franzen-Zetterberg-Cleary
Brunnstrom/Hudler(/Nyquist)-Helm-Abdelkader
Miller-Emmerton-Eaves(/Murak)
*Bertuzzi

Lidstrom-White
Kronwall-Stuart
Ericsson-Kindl/Commodore(/Smith)

Howard
Conklin

PP1: Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Franzen, Lidstrom-White
PP2: Franzen-Filppula-Cleary, Kronwall-Stuart
PK1: Helm-Miller, Kronwall-Stuart
PK2: Emmerton-Eaves, Ericsson-White

Step 1: Scrath Bertuzzi indefinitely (or release him, I don't care). He ruins whatever line he's on. There's no reason he should even be on the roster, let alone dressed while solid players like Hudler, Brunnstron, Nyquist, Miller, Emmerton and Eaves are scratched or in the minors. He's big and strong...but he's arguably the softest player on the team next to Hudler. He doesn't hit, he doesn't fight, he doesn't intimidate. He's old, he's in bad shape, he's slow, he's tired, he's lazy, he has horrible defensive awareness, he's constantly leaving people wide open in the zone, and is just an incredible defensive liability all-around. He can't carry the puck, he can't accept a pass, he makes horrible passes, he turns the puck over, he has terrible offensive awareness, he's constantly going offsides and killing attacks, he blocks more shots than he re-directs in front of the net, and he just ruins offensive flow in general. Oh, and he takes tons of stupid penatlies to top it all off. Babcock had the balls to scratch Modano when he wasn't helping the team last season. He should have the balls to scratch (or release) Bertuzzi now that he's killing the team this season. Him being sick last game was the best thing that could've possibly happened to our team. I could go on all day.

Step 2: Datsyuk and Filppula have the best chemistry on the team. Put them together.

Step 3: Zetterberg and Franzen have the next best chemistry on the team. Put them together.

Step 4: Holmstrom has great chemistry with Pav and Val. Put him in front on that line. Abby can rotate in, as needed.

Step 5: Cleary has great chemistry with Hank and Mule. Put him in front on that line.

Step 6: Miller-Emmerton-Eaves form a great 4th 'shut-down line' ala Draper-Helm-Eaves the last two seasons. There's no reason whatsoever that those three shouldn't play together on the fourth line every night (until Mursak gets back, at least).

Step 7: Helm and Abdelkader are really emerging as legitimate offensive threats. Put them together on the third line. Rotate Brunnstrom and Hudler as the third man on that line until someone clicks.

Step 8: At some point in the season Nyquist should get a legitimate shot to beat out Brunnstrom or Hudler on the third line, and Smith should get a legitimate shot to beat out Kindl or Commodore on the third pairing.

Edited by blueadams, 06 November 2011 - 11:06 AM.


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Posted 07 November 2011 - 11:30 AM

I know over the last year or two a lot of posters on this board have wanted to see Holmstrom on the 4th line but I think you've got to like the way he's been playing so far this year. I think people underrate how much space and trouble he creates when he's out on the ice with Datsyuk.

To me, Holmstrom is so much more useful on this team when he is playing with Datsyuk than when he is on the fourth line. If I were drawing up the lines I would have:


Filppula/Cleary - Datsyuk - Holmstrom
Cleary/Filppula - Zetterberg - Franzen
Hudler - Helm - Abdelkader
Bertuzzi - Emmerton - Brunnstrom/Miller

Or

Hudler/Filppula - Datsyuk - Holmstrom
Filppula/Hudler - Zetterberg - Franzen
Cleary - Helm - Bertuzzi
Abdelkader - Emmerton - Brunnstrom/Miller
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Posted 07 November 2011 - 01:31 PM

PP1: Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Franzen, Lidstrom-White
PP2: Franzen-Filppula-Cleary, Kronwall-Stuart



Double-shift Franzen, put out offensively clueless Stuart, and no Homer or Hudler? Kindl and Ericsson are both better choices than Stuart, and if Homer is in the lineup it's for PP; his 5-on-5 play is mediocre whether he's with Dats or Emmerton. How about one of these:


Zetterberg/Datsyuk/Holmstrom/Lidstrom/White
Franzen/Filppula/Cleary/Kronwall/Hudler


The following use Lidstrom/White and Kronwall/Kindl on defense:


Franzen/Datsyuk/Holmstrom
Hudler/Zetterberg/Cleary


Zetterberg/Datsyuk/Holmstrom
Franzen/Hudler/Cleary


Hudler/Datsyuk/Holmstrom
Franzen/Zetterberg/Cleary


Cleary/Datsyuk/Hudler
Franzen/Zetterberg/Holmstrom


If Cleary continues not producing, pull him out and stick Filppula in one of the last four combos.

Step 4: Holmstrom has great chemistry with Pav and Val. Put him in front on that line. Abby can rotate in, as needed.


Are you serious?


"Jiri Hudler is one of the best offensive players on the team, and has great chemistry with Datsyuk. So we're going to put Abdelkader on Datsyuk's line."

Step 7: Helm and Abdelkader are really emerging as legitimate offensive threats. Put them together on the third line. Rotate Brunnstrom and Hudler as the third man on that line until someone clicks.

Step 8: At some point in the season Nyquist should get a legitimate shot to beat out Brunnstrom or Hudler on the third line, and Smith should get a legitimate shot to beat out Kindl or Commodore on the third pairing.


Helm's speed is dangerous, but he doesn't have the hands to finish. Abdelkader is just painful to watch offensively.


Brunnstrom needs to earn a spot in the top 12 before we talk about someone having to earn his spot.


Kindl has outplayed Ericsson, and Smith did get a legitimate shot to beat out Kindl in the preseason and wasn't even close.
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Posted 07 November 2011 - 05:59 PM

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"Jiri Hudler is one of the best offensive players on the team, and


Ugh...he has been given a chance and has proven that he is not one of the best. Of course who else are we gonna put there, certainly not Franzen. Let's try Flip - Dats - Holmes

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