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#21 JoeBuddy

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 06:20 PM

I don't see Kenny picking up any big names. Maybe a little move but probably going to save that cap space mostly for Kronwall's and Stuart's raises.
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Posted 20 October 2011 - 07:39 PM

The Wings, with all that cap space, are doing well. In fact, I haven't really heard anyone talk about the team missing any element right now. Even if we were up against the cap I think the team would be a deadly team for anyone else to face. That just makes it all the sweeter that we can potentially pick up a game changer at the trade deadline. Let's not forget that we might have to actually trade someone this time, so that adds cap space, too.
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Posted 20 October 2011 - 07:43 PM

The Wings, with all that cap space, are doing well. In fact, I haven't really heard anyone talk about the team missing any element right now. Even if we were up against the cap I think the team would be a deadly team for anyone else to face. That just makes it all the sweeter that we can potentially pick up a game changer at the trade deadline. Let's not forget that we might have to actually trade someone this time, so that adds cap space, too.


I agree that we look good right now (obviously, we are 4-0). But i still think we need a sniper, because if you remember in the playoffs, when we needed a goal the only guys we could rely on were Pav and Z. Sans Franzen (in the playoffs), you can't really rely on Cleary, Huds, Fil, Homer, etc. to score on demand in the playoffs. But i do realize it is VERY early in the season, so we'll see.......

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 07:52 PM

Fully agree, but too many people play video games and don't understand how unrealistic their wants are.


Good trades are pretty hard in NHL 12.
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Posted 20 October 2011 - 08:54 PM

I think we should all pray the Devils are not in it come the trade deadline because if so I would definitely not be surprised to see them trade Zach Parise since he is a UFA after this year... No doubt the wings would be interested too... OMG that would be amazing! :siren:


This would be fantastical! I think one more true sniper like him would put this team right where I want it.:D
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Posted 20 October 2011 - 09:02 PM

I don't see Kenny picking up any big names. Maybe a little move but probably going to save that cap space mostly for Kronwall's and Stuart's raises.


Disagree, only because I think they would have used a lot of the cap space to sign someone to a one year contract in the offseason if that were the case. I would be surprised if they're not major players at the deadline.
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Posted 20 October 2011 - 09:10 PM

yandle & ekman larsson & doan.

for this i would consider a lot of assets available!

as long as yandle and ekman stay to (try)and replace nick.
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Posted 20 October 2011 - 09:15 PM

I can't see him doing much at the deadline though you never know especially if Suter or Weber is available.

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 10:11 PM

Ok just for the guys around here who want to see Parise on the team at the deadline.

What do we give to the Devils for a name like that?

I would love to see Parise come here but Holland and Illitch are more 'Billy Bean' types. Numbers and dollars as opposed to name collecting.

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 11:10 PM

Ok just for the guys around here who want to see Parise on the team at the deadline.

What do we give to the Devils for a name like that?

I would love to see Parise come here but Holland and Illitch are more 'Billy Bean' types. Numbers and dollars as opposed to name collecting.



Any trade for a UFA in the 4-6 million per season range is going to involve Smith and a future pick(s). The Wings aren't going to let that happen, though. To be realistic, the Wings are going to have to be content with what they have right now and firm up their 3rd/4th line guys for the playoffs. We have a solid team, but the Bertuzzi's and Holmstrom's of the team need to get their asses squared away and contribute, or make room for the speed we got on the bench. Mursak/Emmerton/Tatar/Nyquist should be gaining experience right now instead of has-beens padding their career stats. Babcock knows this and is trying his best to phase them out.

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 11:31 PM

Any trade for a UFA in the 4-6 million per season range is going to involve Smith and a future pick(s). The Wings aren't going to let that happen, though. To be realistic, the Wings are going to have to be content with what they have right now and firm up their 3rd/4th line guys for the playoffs. We have a solid team, but the Bertuzzi's and Holmstrom's of the team need to get their asses squared away and contribute, or make room for the speed we got on the bench. Mursak/Emmerton/Tatar/Nyquist should be gaining experience right now instead of has-beens padding their career stats. Babcock knows this and is trying his best to phase them out.


Sometimes I'm not sure... but if he can do it... good for him. Although I do feel Bert can contribute still when he has his moments of clarity.

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 12:10 AM

I dont expect any moves at the deadline. Would be awesome to pick a big player up and go all out to get Lids one more cup, But wings already have too many players both offense and defense.

I have to say I wouldnt mind shane doan. I sure hated him when he was bulldozing every player on the wings. But he will probably retire a coyote.

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 01:20 AM

hopefully we will just trade away our 1st round pick, or a few of them. we never need them anyway. we use those picks to bring in some decent players, no big name rentals, just some depth shooters and such. hopefully those acquisitions give us just enough to be a championship team instead of just a playoff team. then lids and homer retire after the playoffs and we use the money from their contracts to give kronners and stewie raises, plus sign a few of our prospects. then we contend for the cup again next year. simple.

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 02:04 AM

So awesome. No doubt.

But he's the new Devils captain, you know? That right there is an indication that he's in it for the long haul imo.

If Mike Richards can get traded, Zach Parise easily can.
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Posted 21 October 2011 - 05:13 AM

It's early in the season but right now a deadline-acquisition doesn't look 100% necessary. That could change though, I'm thinking defense mainly.

We're pretty stacked at forwards so to make any real improvement there we'd have to indeed pick up someone like Parise, which I doubt is possible.

Holland will make the right decision though, if a great deal can't be made he'll save the money for the off-season when we might have to replace Lidstrom.

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 08:56 AM

If Mike Richards can get traded, Zach Parise easily can.



Well Parise would have to be much more shameless with his drinking and take more pictures of him partying with pornstars.

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 10:45 AM

I agree that if the team picks up anything it'll be a sniper. And a big-name, too, if a trade can be worked out. Just imagine the lynch mobs looking for Holland if we end up getting burned in the 1st or second round without having made a move and having all that cap space.

People talking about having too many players are forgetting we'd have to trade to get someone. I don't think picks alone are going to do it. So we'll be bringing in a guy by getting rid of one or two other guys.

Edited by VM1138, 21 October 2011 - 10:46 AM.

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 11:38 AM

Problem. Lots of cap room, no roster room and the players Holland is willing to deal, nobody wants.....

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 11:45 AM

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Daniel Cleary ($2.800m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Johan Franzen ($3.954m)
Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Zach Parise ($5.750m)
Jiri Hudler ($3.000m) / Darren Helm ($1.500m) / Jan Mursak ($0.550m)
Gustav Nyquist ($0.875m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.250m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m)
/ Cory Emmerton ($0.533m) / Tomas Tatar ($0.840m)

DEFENSEMEN
Nicklas Lidstrom ($5.500m) / Matt Carle ($4.750m)
Niklas Kronwall ($5.000m) / Ian White ($2.875m)
Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m) / Jakub Kindl ($0.883m)
/ Brendan Smith ($0.875m)

GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m) / Thomas McCollum ($0.816m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,236,210; BONUSES: $247,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $63,790


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So how do you plan on acquiring Parise and Carle? I see you are missing Holmstrom, Miller, Bertuzzi and Stuart and Conklin. So did NHL 11 allow this trade? Because no GM would take those guys in a trade....

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 12:07 PM

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So how do you plan on acquiring Parise and Carle? I see you are missing Holmstrom, Miller, Bertuzzi and Stuart and Conklin. So did NHL 11 allow this trade? Because no GM would take those guys in a trade....


You're right about those guys, but a team needing to unload cap space that won't make playoffs in need of a strong center might be willing to part with a second-line scorer for someone like Flip. Or throw in a pick to sweeten the deal.
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