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#1 TheWestWing

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 08:01 AM

Great - here we go again. Bit more severe that just pulling VS.....

'DirecTV Might Drop Fox Cable Channels'

Fox says that DirecTV is threatening to pull the plug on its national and regional cable networks on Nov. 1 unless a new carriage fee agreement can be reached....

..The networks affected include FX, National Geographic Channel, Speed, Fuel TV, Fox Soccer, Fox Soccer Plus, Fox Movie Channel, Fox Deportes and the 19 Fox regional sports networks.'

http://www.broadcast...le_Channels.php

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 08:25 AM

how would that work with Center Ice subscribers? they can't possibly find an argument for not refunding your $ if you can't view all the games on the FS networks...

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 08:41 AM

And this is why I dropped DirectTV. Useless company and who wants their TV to drop when it snows or rains hard. NHL Game Center is 100000000 times better than that DirectTV garbage and you don't have to DVR anything as it is always there.

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 09:46 AM

Game center live seems increasingly the way to go. Time Warner carries everything on CI but the quality is as if you were watching hockey in the 80s
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Posted 21 October 2011 - 09:52 AM

directv center ice is pretty great, actually.

most games are in HD.

Edited by stinky fish taco, 21 October 2011 - 09:53 AM.

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 09:52 AM

Game center live seems increasingly the way to go. Time Warner carries everything on CI but the quality is as if you were watching hockey in the 80s

I agree. I hate time warner. I was thinking of switching to direct..but if they drop the fox channels then....geez. But i really hate time warner. no fsd...no nhl network...no nfl network...
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Posted 21 October 2011 - 10:09 AM

This is what happened last year with Dish, it's because it's time to renegotiate the contract with Fox and they are the ones demanding more money. Why can't the contract be up during baseball season so we don't have to worry about missing our hockey? :angry:

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 11:27 AM

So no one has any info on what this will do to Center Ice subscribers?

Either way, this just sucks if they pull all their channels. Not only am I mostly concerned about losing Red Wings games (via my paid Center Ice subscription), but I watch their affiliates programs a ton! I love "The League" and "Sons of Anarchy" both on FX, not to mention the movies they put on their networks. This would suck.

And I'm not going back to Time Warner because those losers not only don't have NHL and NFL network, but they don't broadcast Center Ice in HD.
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Posted 21 October 2011 - 11:35 AM

Well, they can drop the fsd's, as long as they like losing the revenue of all the customers who love hockey. Once again, the media giants are greedy and who suffers? The working man....again. Take more, more and more until there is nothing left to take.

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 11:38 AM

And this is why I dropped DirectTV. Useless company and who wants their TV to drop when it snows or rains hard. NHL Game Center is 100000000 times better than that DirectTV garbage and you don't have to DVR anything as it is always there.



So how do you watch NHL Game Center on your TV, and does that cost extra?

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 11:51 AM

TWC does suck, hardly any HD coverage for CI. I can't comment on NFL Network, but TWC does certainly carry NHL Network...they just moved it to their sports pack. I had it in my subscription one year then the next it said I didn't have it. They claimed I never had it, but just switched it to a paid package so I had to pay an extra $5 for it.

I switched to Directv this offseason and I could not be happier. Definitely the way to go if you want to watch HD hockey, with center ice of course. If the game is broadcast in HD, you will get it in HD. They will work this out, but we may have a few days of no fox channels until they start losing customers and revenue, then they will pay up.

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 12:01 PM

TWC does suck, hardly any HD coverage for CI. I can't comment on NFL Network, but TWC does certainly carry NHL Network...they just moved it to their sports pack. I had it in my subscription one year then the next it said I didn't have it. They claimed I never had it, but just switched it to a paid package so I had to pay an extra $5 for it.

I switched to Directv this offseason and I could not be happier. Definitely the way to go if you want to watch HD hockey, with center ice of course. If the game is broadcast in HD, you will get it in HD. They will work this out, but we may have a few days of no fox channels until they start losing customers and revenue, then they will pay up.

Time Warner in this area does not in fact have nhl network. and i have the sports pack.

Only Grande Communications has it here besides the SAT companies.

Edited by hillbillywingsfan, 21 October 2011 - 12:13 PM.

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 12:39 PM

I had it less than 2 months ago....it's channel 122 in HD and 266 in SD. At least in San Antonio it is.

I find it hard to believe they have that much of a difference in their programming from San Antonio to Austin....but I don't see it on the Austin channel lineup while it is most certainly still on the SA lineup.

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At any rate, you should switch to Direct...they will work this fox thing out and you will thank me later. If you do switch, I can save you $100.

Edited by rrasco, 21 October 2011 - 12:40 PM.

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 12:50 PM

Thanks a TON for this info - I was actually switching to DirectTV, but now I'm going to wait to see how this plays out. Also, my sister has DTV and Center Ice, so I gave her the heads-up; she's contacting them as we speak.
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Posted 21 October 2011 - 01:05 PM

So how do you watch NHL Game Center on your TV, and does that cost extra?

Most use an HDMI/VGA cable from their computer to their TV.

EDIT- I think there are also Game Center Apps for PS3, IPad, etc.

Edited by WorkingOvertime, 21 October 2011 - 01:22 PM.


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Posted 21 October 2011 - 01:09 PM

So no one has any info on what this will do to Center Ice subscribers?

Either way, this just sucks if they pull all their channels. Not only am I mostly concerned about losing Red Wings games (via my paid Center Ice subscription), but I watch their affiliates programs a ton! I love "The League" and "Sons of Anarchy" both on FX, not to mention the movies they put on their networks. This would suck.

And I'm not going back to Time Warner because those losers not only don't have NHL and NFL network, but they don't broadcast Center Ice in HD.


OK here's the deal if I remember correctly from when this was an issue with Dish.

The NHL provides the feed for CI. They generally provide just the SD feed and its at the 'discretion' of the individual providers (DTV) to post the HD feed if they have it. Which is why you see most of the games in HD on DTV as they have the FSN HD feed in their lineup (and which is why some games on US feeds are not HD - think someone mentioned Comcast PHI). So if DTV pulls the FSNs, you'll still get the SD feeds from the FSNs on CI but no HD.

Clear as mud?

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 01:15 PM

I switched to Directv this offseason and I could not be happier. Definitely the way to go if you want to watch HD hockey, with center ice of course. If the game is broadcast in HD, you will get it in HD. They will work this out, but we may have a few days of no fox channels until they start losing customers and revenue, then they will pay up.

I just got Directv this summer as well and love it too. Was with Dish last year during this same thing and it took about a month and a half into the season to get it resolved. I hope that Directv is closer to an agreement with them by the deadline or it could drag on hopefully not as long as the VS issue did with them.

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 02:26 PM

So how do you watch NHL Game Center on your TV, and does that cost extra?


If you have a ps3 or another supported device you can stream it through there. I use the ps3 and you have to buy a 10 dollar app (maybe 20?) and you just select your game and watch it. The only bad thing is for some reason the game starts a bit late on there and you don't get to watch the pregame but most of the time I watch the games later anyway and hardly ever am around exactly at the start time. You can watch either feed and they are all in HD. Oh and if you aren't at home... you can watch it on your iPod, Android or w/e and not miss a beat. It really is amazing and far and away better than directgarbage and their over inflated prices and ego.

Edited by korrowan, 21 October 2011 - 02:28 PM.


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Posted 21 October 2011 - 02:43 PM

OK here's the deal if I remember correctly from when this was an issue with Dish.

The NHL provides the feed for CI. They generally provide just the SD feed and its at the 'discretion' of the individual providers (DTV) to post the HD feed if they have it. Which is why you see most of the games in HD on DTV as they have the FSN HD feed in their lineup (and which is why some games on US feeds are not HD - think someone mentioned Comcast PHI). So if DTV pulls the FSNs, you'll still get the SD feeds from the FSNs on CI but no HD.

Clear as mud?

No, it makes sense. Thank you for the info.

Still, what would be a lack of HD blows, not to mention having to wait until the following day to Tvtorrent The League and Sons of Anarchy.
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Posted 21 October 2011 - 03:01 PM

That really sucks.

I watch a lot of those channels, so this would be a big blow for me.

The problem is that there are many different providers, but there's pros and cons to each. DirecTV is the best thing out there from my experience, but then s*** like this comes along.
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