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10/22 GDT: Red Wings 1 at Capitals 7


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#341 Z and D for the C

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Posted 22 October 2011 - 11:13 PM

I really do hate it when Babcock won't play Howard on back to back nights. Especially since he just had 6 days off! It's not like he's 39 years old, he's a kid, he can handle it. I know why they didn't play Conklin last night, it's out of respect for the opponent. As much as they won't admit it, it's just an unwritten rule that you don't put your scrub goalie in net against a s***ty team "just because".


In back to back games, teams put their best goalie out on the night with the best chance to win, and that is the first night, regardless of the opponent. That way you play the best team possible to give you the best chance of getting at least one win. If you try to backup against a weaker team the first night, you run a higher chance of going 0-2.

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Posted 23 October 2011 - 04:31 AM

Conks was obviously not good tonight, and he would be the first to admit it- - he probably will. This was one of those frustrating games to watch, we get some every year. The good thing out of this is that it will motivate the boys to tighten up and come out full force against the BJ's. But seriously, Cleary NEEDS to be taken off that line... Dats and Z by themselves would be better than with Cleary there. I think the lines for next game should be:

Zetterberg- Datsyuk- Homer
Hudler- Filpulla- Franzen
Bert- Helm- Abdelkator
Cleary- Emmerton- Miller

- - another note, why is babcock not using White on the 5 on 3's with Lidstrom? That gives them more options. Other than that, the Wings are 5-1, so losing like this will do good on the long run.


Put our second-highest goal-scorer from last season, a perennial 20-goal scorer, on the fourth line. BRILLIANT idea. I hope you can sense the sarcasm. Personally, I think you're just targeting Cleary so that you can have someone to blame. He's playing good hockey. Your statement that Zetterberg and Datsyuk would be better on their own than with him on the line is perfectly absurd and is the mark of someone reacting in a ridiculous fashion to his team losing.

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Posted 23 October 2011 - 06:20 AM

Let Washington enjoy their wins in regular season cuz they don't get much joy in April. On a positive side, Hudler was not embarrassment in that game along with Lids, D and Z.

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Posted 23 October 2011 - 09:20 AM

In back to back games, teams put their best goalie out on the night with the best chance to win, and that is the first night, regardless of the opponent. That way you play the best team possible to give you the best chance of getting at least one win. If you try to backup against a weaker team the first night, you run a higher chance of going 0-2.

His not saying to play Conklin on the first night, his just saying that considering there's a six days rest period Howard at this point of his career should be able to handle a back to back game. Not only did we have a six day break we have 2 days off prior to the next game which is more then enough time for Howard to rest. IMO, it was a bad call from Babs unless he wants to lose on purpose so we can fly under the radar.

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Posted 23 October 2011 - 09:22 AM

I missed the game due to work, didn't read this thread, but is the sky falling and people over-reacting to one game?


No. We had a poster predict a 20-page thread with nothing but whining and bitching, but as you can see, we aren't even to 10 pages, and there's not much whining or bitching to be seen.

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Posted 23 October 2011 - 10:26 AM

Just watched the game on my DVR. We got drubbed. Oh well.
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Posted 23 October 2011 - 11:56 AM

So, after this game, the question is what need to happen to have our special teams play not suck? If my memory serves me correct, the past few years have not been kind to us with either the man advantage or being a man down.

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Posted 23 October 2011 - 12:00 PM

No. We had a poster predict a 20-page thread with nothing but whining and bitching, but as you can see, we aren't even to 10 pages, and there's not much whining or bitching to be seen.

*Raises Hand*

I predicted it, and I am a couple pages short of my prediction though. Yet, there is a lot of overreaction and blame going around for the loss, as normal. It was one bad game. Just chock it up to that and move along.

Just watched the game on my DVR. We got drubbed. Oh well.

We need more LGW forum members to have this kind of attitude. Especially during the course of an 82 game regular season, and more so being as that this was the Wings first loss after the best start in 30 years.
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Posted 23 October 2011 - 01:21 PM

Pretty awful game.

That's the thing with losses. When the team loses there is more to discuss regarding what needs to improve. In a win there is normally a couple pages of circle-jerking whoever played well and that's that. Shouldn't be shocking that there are a bunch of pages for a first loss, especially one where the Wings get brutalized.

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Posted 23 October 2011 - 01:25 PM

Yeah I had to turn it off early. I mean, Detroit played pretty well for the first 30 minutes or so, then the Caps just scored whenever they wanted. The Caps look like they're for real.

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Posted 23 October 2011 - 01:36 PM

Pretty awful game.

That's the thing with losses. When the team loses there is more to discuss regarding what needs to improve. In a win there is normally a couple pages of circle-jerking whoever played well and that's that. Shouldn't be shocking that there are a bunch of pages for a first loss, especially one where the Wings get brutalized.


Pretty much. Don't know why people are surprised at this obvious fact.

Circle jerking doesn't lead to much actual hockey discussion.
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Posted 23 October 2011 - 01:58 PM

Pretty much. Don't know why people are surprised at this obvious fact.

Circle jerking doesn't lead to much actual hockey discussion.

Based on the bitching and complaining that I have seen after a loss, it doesn't lead to much actual hockey discussion either. I really chock it up to an emotional response. If you want actual hockey discussion and less of an emotional response, its not easy to find.
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Posted 23 October 2011 - 02:22 PM

Pretty awful game.

That's the thing with losses. When the team loses there is more to discuss regarding what needs to improve. In a win there is normally a couple pages of circle-jerking whoever played well and that's that. Shouldn't be shocking that there are a bunch of pages for a first loss, especially one where the Wings get brutalized.


I agree, but there aren't a bunch of pages here, really. Nine isn't really a lot here, win or lose.

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Posted 23 October 2011 - 02:26 PM

Just watched the game on my DVR. We got drubbed. Oh well.


Yeah I did the same thing. Watched the game this morning and I haven't seen us that bad since we got our asses beat by Nashville in 08. We just weren't there and it sucks we got killed but I mean we are 5-1! We couldn't have asked for a better start (6-0 obviously) but we are 5-1 and have a PP that can't do anything so there is room for improvement.

We got drubbed but it's early in the season. We can't win them all.

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Posted 23 October 2011 - 02:26 PM

I agree, but there aren't a bunch of pages here, really. Nine isn't really a lot here, win or lose.

9? I see 18. Time to check my settings.
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Posted 23 October 2011 - 02:49 PM

9? I see 18. Time to check my settings.


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Posted 23 October 2011 - 02:58 PM

ill take 1 lose every 6 games any day and so would Babs. maybe were gunna tank so we can draft Nail Yakupov next year!!
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Posted 23 October 2011 - 03:05 PM

Well, um, that wasn't fun to watch. We had an unlucky first period, and then two just plain bad ones. Was gonna say I wish Miller had played instead of Emmerton, but I'm pretty sure we would have lost anyway, so whatever. I hope Conklin's night was just a fluke. I'll forgive him this time, but pleeeaaase don't do that again.

I'm glad we're playing the Sharks the game after next, so we can get a better feel for how we're doing. So far we've been playing a bunch of teams like the Sens and BJs, which doesn't tell you much unless you lose.

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Posted 23 October 2011 - 05:00 PM

Just finished watching the game. That was not a good one, I was thinking once we made it 3-1 that would get us going but it didn't. We have to get our first loss eventually, at least it wasn't to one of the teams we should have beat.

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Posted 23 October 2011 - 05:17 PM

The fact our first loss was a prison-sexing could actually be a good thing if you're thinking positively... Now it's time for the players and coaching staff to step back and assess the issues.





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