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#1 Z Winged Dangler

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Posted 23 October 2011 - 02:58 PM

I'm in Italy right now, so I have only been able to watch some highlights and haven't been able to watch any games at all... So my question is, what's with Z's horrifically slow start? 6 games, 2 pts with a goal and an assist and is +1. This is not Z like production. I'm not bashing him, obviously he's my favourite player, so can someone enlighten me as to what i'm missing. Or is it like last year where 5 of the top 10 saves of the year were goalies robbing Zetterberg? The Wings are 5-1, so the team is obviously playing good, but Z's production will be something to worry about if he doesn't start getting points soon. Flip and Mule will not keep the pace they're on for 82 games. Neither will Z, but what do you guys think?

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Posted 23 October 2011 - 03:07 PM

I've been asking myself that for a while now. :( My conjecture is that something's bothering him injury-wise, but that's nothing more than a guess. He just hasn't been himself, and it's a bummer to see him struggle.

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Posted 23 October 2011 - 03:48 PM

No, if it was anything injury related, the Wings would have him sit because they would not be risking injuries like the last 2 years where they have been dealing with so many injuries. With that said, Pavs and Hank both seem to be slightly off so far. I thought, even though we lost 7-1, Pavs and Hank had a lot more energy and generated a ton of scoring chances last night. My only problem is Cleary playing with them; He slows them down, gives the puck away all the time by trying to make a dumb play and constantly falls down. IMO Homer should be placed on the top line because he simply wins battles along the boards and then gives the puck to one of Pavs or Hank, and then goes to the net front area. Basically, Homer keeps things simple so Pavs and Hank can work their magic.

Besides that, I think the other reason they look a little off at times is because we have basically had these massive breaks in the schedule so they have not been able to get into a rythem yet. I do not worry one bit; Pavs and Hank will get going now that the schedule is picking up.

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Posted 23 October 2011 - 03:57 PM

He hasn't been the same goal scorer the last couple of seasons.

Like I said in yesterday's game, he still takes a boatload of shots, but too many of them are low percentage shots from bad angles.

I think as long as he's healthy, we'll be fine. I don't expect him to ever score 48 goals again. He's still a great player, but slightly past his prime in terms of numbers and stats.
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Posted 23 October 2011 - 04:00 PM

I think Z looked way better in pre season. I wish we could see 40 goal zetta again

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Posted 23 October 2011 - 04:54 PM

I think the whole ZDC line is not playing that well. They seem to turn the puck over a lot. Datsyuk seems to want to dangle the puck too much instead of making the simple play and more often then not he is turning it over. Cleary looks like he is trying to use skates with no edge and spends a lot of time on his ass. Zetta seems lost. The thing is I don't think that they should be split up because when they finally find their groove they are one of the best two way lines in hockey. Lets hope they can turn the corner soon.

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Posted 23 October 2011 - 05:20 PM

Everyone's right he hasn't been the same the last two seasons for sure. I think he's lost a step in terms of his speed. He looks very sluggish at times out there. Still pretty sound defensively. Let's hope he can turn it around at some point. :thumbup:

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Posted 23 October 2011 - 05:36 PM

Yeah, I agree. He looked much better in the pre-season. Let's hope he picks up the pace.

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Posted 23 October 2011 - 05:41 PM

Sorry but Hank was pretty darn good last year. He got 80 points, and he did a heck of a job leading the Wings when Pavs got injured last year. Also, in the playoffs against the Sharks, lets not forget that Pavs, Hank and Nick were the only consistent players every game- - if it were not for them, there would never have been the chance of making history. Hank will get his game going, and Pavs traditionally starts the season at an average rate and then picks things up near the end of October. Fact is we are 5-1, have tremendous depth, and this is going to be a real fun season to watch imo. IMO, this is the first time since 2007-08 that we are winning games like we did that year. We are way tighter Defensively, outshooting opponents, getting good offense. Lets wait a while before we call Hank out.

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Posted 23 October 2011 - 07:17 PM

He's just getting older. I'm struggling with it myself because he's my favorite and I'm used to seeing him play a certain way and that guy doesn't appear as often anymore. At the same time, like he said in that one Swedish interview, he's simply not 22 anymore (or whatever early 20 number he stated) and so he's got to find a different way to be effective while pacing himself for a looooooooong season. I'm still going to watch him closely and I'm sure he'll find a way to get those points.

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Posted 23 October 2011 - 07:24 PM

Was at Friday's game, row 6 lower bowl. He seemed to be favoring his left leg at times.. And grimacing. His endurance is definitely not where it usually is and his stride was not normal also. Something seems to be up.
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Posted 23 October 2011 - 07:43 PM

He's off to a slow start. That's where I'm gonna leave it. I bet he'll have 2 3-point nights in a row and everyone will be saying "there we go".




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Posted 23 October 2011 - 08:31 PM

I think he needs to see Dr. Rahmani.

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Posted 23 October 2011 - 08:56 PM

I didn't see last nights game but I thought so far that Z has looked real good. Like other people are saying ZDC isn't working, put Hudler there and you'll see a sweet ass line. I was thinking during all previous games so far how good Z has looked to me so I question my own sanity when I read all these posts. I thought him and Dats have looked stellar together so far, great passing, great on the back check (obviously), and creating great scoring chances. I truly dont feel it's anything major just a case of being a couple weeks in and finding that mojo again, the only thing I think he needs to get back is his accuracy has slipped a tad...I hope to see a solid year from the euro twins yet again!
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Posted 24 October 2011 - 12:09 AM

He's off to a slow start. That's where I'm gonna leave it. I bet he'll have 2 3-point nights in a row and everyone will be saying "there we go".



i really hope so. now that i think of it, that's usually what happens for Z as he usually starts the season off slow. i think it was the 07-08 season he started off terribly and then tore s*** right up for 25 games. i was just hoping you guys could tell me what's up and i'm hurting to go home and watch hockey. thanks boys.

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 12:19 AM

Was at Friday's game, row 6 lower bowl. He seemed to be favoring his left leg at times.. And grimacing. His endurance is definitely not where it usually is and his stride was not normal also. Something seems to be up.


I didn't specifically notice his leg, but he hasn't been playing quite the same as he normally does; he's been more cautious when he has the puck and quicker to give it up. Things like this have made me think for the past couple of games that Cleary isn't the only top-line winger injured right now.
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Posted 24 October 2011 - 01:44 AM

I didn't see last nights game but I thought so far that Z has looked real good. Like other people are saying ZDC isn't working, put Hudler there and you'll see a sweet ass line. I was thinking during all previous games so far how good Z has looked to me so I question my own sanity when I read all these posts. I thought him and Dats have looked stellar together so far, great passing, great on the back check (obviously), and creating great scoring chances. I truly dont feel it's anything major just a case of being a couple weeks in and finding that mojo again, the only thing I think he needs to get back is his accuracy has slipped a tad...I hope to see a solid year from the euro twins yet again!


Except breaking up the 2nd line right now would be suicide. The second line is arguably the only line holding us in some of the games. That line has 1/3 of the points of the entire team right now.

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 02:10 AM

I honestly don't like him with Pav anymore.

I'd like to see...

Filppula-Datsyuk-Cleary
Hudler-Zetterberg-Franzen

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 02:28 AM

Zetterberg always seems like he's trying to get stronger, but that seems to come with some sacrifice in terms of speed and agility. I remember this happening a few years back, I think, too. He sort of hits his stride midway though the season, I bet.

We should use or depth to rest these guys up.
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Posted 24 October 2011 - 04:00 AM

Except breaking up the 2nd line right now would be suicide. The second line is arguably the only line holding us in some of the games. That line has 1/3 of the points of the entire team right now.


shouldn't any second line have about 1/3 of your team's points??





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