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#21 mjlegend

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Posted 26 October 2011 - 11:14 AM

If they didn't make a big trade/signing over the summer, they won't do it at 5-2 in seven games.

Friday's important though; it could be the difference between keeping up with the HAWKS SUCK pace, or falling into the middle of the conference. I know it's early but 17 of the 19 guys who played last night also played for the Wings last year; can't use the 'just getting used to each other' excuse.

This is where Jimmy comes in on his white horse and shuts the door on the Sharks and Wild and makes us forget about these two losses.

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Posted 26 October 2011 - 11:29 AM

wings fans have higher standards, and with good reason.

we aren't thef****** blue jackets here

we expect more.

Come now, there's not a season goes by that every team in the league doesn't suffer losses like this one. You can expect more, but this is the reality of your present universe.

That said, although the Wings' 5-2 start is nice, it's hardly special. There are four other teams in the West that have more or less equaled that start -- the Wings have work to do.
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Posted 26 October 2011 - 11:39 AM

Actually, I've been kind of regretting we didn't get Jagr or Souray, two older players who have been pretty good this season. It is early, though, so they may come down to Earth.

The Wings have been known to coast in the past couple of seasons, though. This team knows it'll be in the playoffs, so they don't always show up every night. It's frustrating sometimes to watch them play.

I'll wait a little longer before asking for a big trade, though.
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Posted 26 October 2011 - 12:11 PM

According to the wings twitter, they got bagged at practice today on what should have been an off day. Hopefully this short term fix will get the boys fired up for a tough game on friday vs. the sharks.
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Posted 26 October 2011 - 01:14 PM

Saying it's just two games and to not worry about it is no better than saying what the OP did.

Simple fact is the past two games they have played lethargic, undisciplined hockey. Taking seven penalties in one game is pathetic and worthy of a practice with no pucks. While I don't think it would affect the Wings but this type of play devolps bad habits. I don't know about the rest of you but the last thing I want going into Friday is a Red Wings team with bad habits.

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Babcock had six different line combinations last night. 'That means there is a problem,' said the coach.


Babcock: I did the sleep test. I went to bed, I was bitter. I woke up this morning, I still was bitter.


Babcock on a physical practice. 'We don't do it in games, so we'll do it here.'


He went on to question their effort the past two games as well. But everyone here in their infinite wisdom, moreso than Babcock himself, say don't worry aboot it so all is well.

I'm not saying hit the panic button or do a trade in the immediate future or what have you, but to sit there and say absolutely nothing is wrong when the coach himself is claiming otherwise, is kind of silly

Edited by dallas27, 26 October 2011 - 01:16 PM.



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Posted 26 October 2011 - 01:15 PM

wings fans have higher standards, and with good reason.

we aren't thef****** blue jackets here

we expect more.


I think this could be better put as "We're spoiled." That's a vast generalization of Wings fans, because, unlike you, many of us are capable of appreciating the Wings` success.

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Posted 26 October 2011 - 01:35 PM

Wow shows you how much I've been paying attention, I didn't even know we lost 7-1!

Conk played the last two games right? Nuff said.

I don't usually get to worried about losing on the road. If we play .500 or a little better away from The Joe, that's good! If we start losing and playing bad at home, that's when it's time to be concerned.
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Posted 26 October 2011 - 01:42 PM

Saying it's just two games and to not worry about it is no better than saying what the OP did.

Simple fact is the past two games they have played lethargic, undisciplined hockey. Taking seven penalties in one game is pathetic and worthy of a practice with no pucks. While I don't think it would affect the Wings but this type of play devolps bad habits. I don't know about the rest of you but the last thing I want going into Friday is a Red Wings team with bad habits.

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He went on to question their effort the past two games as well. But everyone here in their infinite wisdom, moreso than Babcock himself, say don't worry aboot it so all is well.

I'm not saying hit the panic button or do a trade in the immediate future or what have you, but to sit there and say absolutely nothing is wrong when the coach himself is claiming otherwise, is kind of silly


Nobody is saying "Playing without effort is okay." People are simply saying "Whoa, don't freak out over the roster yet. It's been two games over an 82 game season. Let's see how they do for a bit before hitting the panic button."

It's sad that people can't understand the difference.

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Posted 26 October 2011 - 01:55 PM

Nothing against Babcock as he is the best coach in the NHL, but we have heard that from him multiple times every regular season since the Wings won it all. The effort wasn't there is the most repeated phrase coming from that locker room.
 
 
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Posted 26 October 2011 - 01:58 PM

In 2007-08 the Red Wings' first 7 games were 4-2-1 (9 pts) -- pretty sure we remember how that season ended.

So far they have 5-2-0 (10 pts) and are on pace for 117. So, following a horrendous 5-2 start, without reservation, we begin another season episode of Panic time! :yowza:

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Posted 26 October 2011 - 02:08 PM

I think the biggest sting of both losses was 1. we got got blown out by the Caps. Ok it happens (I guess). 2. is we were the Jackets first win. That hurts the most. But nah we don't need a trade just maybe a wake up call to some players. Also no Howard either. But it's the NHL, any team can win on any given night. You need to bring it every night. We didn't do that the last 2 games but the previous 5 we did. No worries.

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Posted 26 October 2011 - 02:11 PM

Maybe to the hockey gods, Columbus was due for a win? We can't win 'em all, and Columbus can't lose 'em all.
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Posted 26 October 2011 - 02:13 PM

Personally, I just think what this team really screams for is ice cream...

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Posted 26 October 2011 - 02:38 PM

In 2007-08 the Red Wings' first 7 games were 4-2-1 (9 pts) -- pretty sure we remember how that season ended.

So far they have 5-2-0 (10 pts) and are on pace for 117. So, following a horrendous 5-2 start, without reservation, we begin another season episode of Panic time! :yowza:


Yeah, but in 2008 we had Downey. We don't have Downey now.

I fail to see your point.
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Posted 26 October 2011 - 02:54 PM

Yeah, but in 2008 we had Downey. We don't have Downey now.

I fail to see your point.

You forgot Dallas Drake.

An unforgivable lapse. :hammer:

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Posted 26 October 2011 - 02:55 PM

Yeah, but in 2008 we had Downey. We don't have Downey now.

I fail to see your point.


Abdelkader is the next Downey.

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Posted 26 October 2011 - 03:07 PM

Nobody is saying "Playing without effort is okay." People are simply saying "Whoa, don't freak out over the roster yet. It's been two games over an 82 game season. Let's see how they do for a bit before hitting the panic button."

It's sad that people can't understand the difference.

Ouch. That hurt. It's sad you don't realize they are nearly one in the same.

Babcock had six different line combinations last night. 'That means there is a problem,' said the coach.

Line combinations = roster. Pretty simple concept. Again, I'm not stating there is a problem. But if Babcock is hinting at it then maybe there is some truth to it. He's obviously trying to juggle the ROSTER to find some combination to spark the team becuase we all know they aren't playing the best hockey as of late, he's said so himself. Just because "it's been the most said statement by him" doesn't make it any less true. However I'm more inclined to think it could have been the month in between games they had. But if that spark, down the road, is waiving Brunnstrom and Emmerton and putting in Murask and Tatar, both of whom have more upside than the former, then so be it. Tatar is nothing but passion and hustle. Look at his first goal, kid wants to be a Red Wing. That's not saying the rest of the players don't. I have to try and be as clear as possible here.

I remember when nobody was safe from Bowman. Even Stevie was in Bowmans dog house. It's unfortunate everyone has gone soft.

I always find it humorous when people make references to the past, especially in sports and when it's five years ago. See, the thing about the past is, well, it's the past. It has little to no relevance to the team in the PRESENT. I *think* there is a saying about not living in the past, I'm not entirely positive though. Yes, it's virtually the same team in terms of the 'core' but you're talking about a Zetterberg, Datysuk, Lidstrom, Rafalaski, etc etc five years younger. There's a little difference there.

But I forgot they won the cup that year so surely they are destined to this year! But wait, I can live in the past as well. Didn't San Jose knock us out the past two years? Not quite sure I want that to repeat itself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lol, -4, am I not kissing the Red Wings ass enough for you guys? I remember when this forum used to be good and someone could have a strong opinion. Now that's living in the past.

Edited by dallas27, 26 October 2011 - 04:39 PM.



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Posted 26 October 2011 - 04:25 PM

I am not saying we should make a trade due to the 5-2 start, but we do need a trade. The wings to often seem slow and do not have the intensity that is needed for playoff style hockey. I love all of our players, but I think relying on players like fil, cleary, huds, bert (ok third line this year) on our top two lines, and players like miller, and holmstrom on our checking line is not going to work out well in the long run. We need more speed and intensity, to keep up.I am not saying to ditch all of these players, but replacing two of them would be good. But again this is not me saying the sky is falling due to our start, i have thought this since the last playoff series.

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Posted 26 October 2011 - 04:36 PM

Ouch. That hurt. It's sad you don't realize they are nearly one in the same.

Put up or shut up. Simple as that.

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Posted 26 October 2011 - 04:48 PM

wings fans have higher standards, and with good reason.

we aren't thef****** blue jackets here

we expect more.

Of course we do, but no team in the history of the NHL has ever gone 82-0 or played at the highest possible level every single game.

Do I like what I saw the other night: of course not. Does it happen to every single team multiple times a season: without question.
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