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#21 St. Michael (the Red Wing)

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 03:57 PM

CBC just said the reasoning is he needs to play somewhere so the Wings' are trying to see if another team will give him a shot. WOW :(


Quite confusing tbh.

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 04:15 PM

someone will pick him up just so the wings cant have him and make him a better player

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 04:16 PM

Is Garth Snow going to pick him up?

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 04:25 PM

our plan is to tank for the next 3 years and get stocked up on high talent, just like the Pens did to get
Whitney, Fleury, Malkin, Crosby and Staal!! Nail Yakupov will do for me next draft : )
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Posted 29 October 2011 - 04:57 PM

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Brunnstrom has until noon Monday to clear. If he clears, he'll likely be assigned to Grand Rapids.

"He needs to play,'' general manager Ken Holland said. "He's in the process of establishing himself as an NHL player. He played well enough in training camp to earn a contract, but he hasn't been able to play because we haven't had any injuries (except for Jan Mursak's broken ankle, which created the roster spot for Brunnstrom).''

Holland said the move is not a prelude to a trade.

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We got him because things didn't work out somewhere else,'' Holland said. "It's not like he's been in the NHL for 10 years. He's trying to establish himself.

We're fully aware of the risk. It's great to be in the NHL, but he needs to play.''


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Posted 29 October 2011 - 05:13 PM

They did not even give him a chance to prove what he could do for the team. They should of rotated him in and out of the line up like they do with Eaves, Miller, and Emmerton.

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 05:43 PM

I don't understand the impressions some have that Brunnstrom was likely to be a successful scorer with the Wings. Brunnstrom was highly-touted in the SEL and was highly sought-after, but did not pan out as expected in the NHL. Highly-rated players who do not bear up to expectations are very common in every professional sport. The fact that Brunnstrom is one of these thus far makes me believe that he will clear waivers.

If Brunnstrom showed in practice and preseason that he was potentially of more use to the team than other players, he would have received more of a shot. He didn't. Babcock and Holland know far more than we do. If they made this call, I'm confident that it's the right one. They are highly competent and very experienced, and I do not think that they would discard a potential success story.

His skill set is top six talent. He isn't a 3rd or 4th line energy guy and that isn't how he should be used.


There are many scorers who are not top-six talent, in that they cannot produce sufficiently to justify them receiving top-six time with an NHL team. These scorers either learn to make themselves valuable on the third or fourth lines in other ways or they end up out of a roster spot. The AHL is rife with such players. Brunnstrom is likely one of them.

I still don't understand how it would be ridiculous of him to say to the Wings:
"Hey, I'm not playing a lot here with the big club. It would be beneficial to us both if I was sent down so I don't lose my timing, stamina, and legs while waiting for my opportunity. While down in the minors I can prove to you I do work hard in games and will continue to improve my all around game to fit in better in the NHL. So can you please send me down so I can play?"


Oh, I thought you meant that he should demand playing time in the NHL. Your point makes far more sense now that I understand it.

There is no point of having Bruno just sitting on the sideline doing nothing. It doesn't do the Wings any good and it doesn't do him any good.


Agreed.

Edited by Crymson, 29 October 2011 - 05:46 PM.


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Posted 29 October 2011 - 06:23 PM

Here's an idea.....trade him to Philly!! Posted Image

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 06:28 PM

Here's an idea.....trade him to Philly!! Posted Image


For some Norwegian defenseman who'll never play here.

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 07:09 PM

Meh. Towards the end of the PS, and in his only game against Washington, I didn't like what I saw. He was soft, he was falling down a lot, and he wasn't contributing anything.

I really hope he clears purely because GR need help big time, but if he does get claimed (which I doubt), while it'll be disappointing, nothing worth getting upset over.

Ken Holland: Hes (Mursak) a young guy, provides energy, can skate, hes a puck hound.


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Posted 29 October 2011 - 07:54 PM

They keep mentioning how Brunnstrom gets no playing time because the forwards aren't having as many significant injuries. Are they trying to piss off the injury Gods or something?

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 10:30 PM

Meh. Towards the end of the PS, and in his only game against Washington, I didn't like what I saw. He was soft, he was falling down a lot, and he wasn't contributing anything.

I really hope he clears purely because GR need help big time, but if he does get claimed (which I doubt), while it'll be disappointing, nothing worth getting upset over.

theyll need him down there Aus to replace Nyquist who will be coming the other way, and he will stay.
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Posted 29 October 2011 - 11:04 PM

But, but, but... :siren: :siren: :siren: ..he was goin score 35 gols.. :siren: :siren: :siren:

But really, I wish he could have played more. I don't think it would have hurt to throw him in one of these last few games. Hopefully he has a good showing in Grand Rapids :thumbup:

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 11:27 PM

:confused1: I really don't understand this yet and until I do I'm just going to....
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Posted 30 October 2011 - 12:27 AM

i think it's pretty obvious that they waived him to call up gustav nyquist...and play him every night.

just my 0.02

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Posted 30 October 2011 - 12:57 AM

Not a surprising move at all... Now that Commodore is off of IR, the Red Wings don't have an open roster spot. Back in 07/08, Holland did the same thing with Aaron Downey/Matt Ellis. Whenever everyone was healthy Holland would throw Downey on waivers because if he cleared it meant that for 30 days he could be sent to GR in case we needed to recall a player for a short term injury or other cause (IE Recalling MacDonald to backup Conklin for the Jackets game so Howard could be at the birth of his first child...). Obviously he chose to waive Brunnstrum because he hasn't fit into the line-up much and has a low risk of being taken due to his previous failures at the NHL level and because he WILL NOT have to be subjected to re-entry waivers since he didn't play much at the NHL level last year. Plus they want Brunnstrom to get some playing time, which he can get in GR. It's a risk, but an inevitable one. Barring a trade or another injury one of either Brunnstrom or Emmerton would have to be waived when Mursak comes off IR anyway, and due to his good play, potential and age, Emmerton would most likely be claimed.

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Posted 30 October 2011 - 02:50 AM

Not a surprising move at all... Now that Commodore is off of IR, the Red Wings don't have an open roster spot. Back in 07/08, Holland did the same thing with Aaron Downey/Matt Ellis. Whenever everyone was healthy Holland would throw Downey on waivers because if he cleared it meant that for 30 days he could be sent to GR in case we needed to recall a player for a short term injury or other cause (IE Recalling MacDonald to backup Conklin for the Jackets game so Howard could be at the birth of his first child...). Obviously he chose to waive Brunnstrum because he hasn't fit into the line-up much and has a low risk of being taken due to his previous failures at the NHL level and because he WILL NOT have to be subjected to re-entry waivers since he didn't play much at the NHL level last year. Plus they want Brunnstrom to get some playing time, which he can get in GR. It's a risk, but an inevitable one. Barring a trade or another injury one of either Brunnstrom or Emmerton would have to be waived when Mursak comes off IR anyway, and due to his good play, potential and age, Emmerton would most likely be claimed.


it's a shame that such a long post had to be so factually incorrect.

commie's already on the roster. he was hurt, but he was never on IR. this move creates a roster spot for gustav nyquist (most likely).



there's a 23 man roster limit.

right now we've got 22 men on the roster.

count it if you want.

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Posted 30 October 2011 - 05:46 AM

commie's already on the roster. he was hurt, but he was never on IR.


In fact he was. That enabled the Wings to call up Smith and eat up games from his suspension. I think three of the five games are served.

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Posted 30 October 2011 - 08:02 AM

Not a surprising move at all... Now that Commodore is off of IR, the Red Wings don't have an open roster spot. Back in 07/08, Holland did the same thing with Aaron Downey/Matt Ellis. Whenever everyone was healthy Holland would throw Downey on waivers because if he cleared it meant that for 30 days he could be sent to GR in case we needed to recall a player for a short term injury or other cause (IE Recalling MacDonald to backup Conklin for the Jackets game so Howard could be at the birth of his first child...). Obviously he chose to waive Brunnstrum because he hasn't fit into the line-up much and has a low risk of being taken due to his previous failures at the NHL level and because he WILL NOT have to be subjected to re-entry waivers since he didn't play much at the NHL level last year. Plus they want Brunnstrom to get some playing time, which he can get in GR. It's a risk, but an inevitable one. Barring a trade or another injury one of either Brunnstrom or Emmerton would have to be waived when Mursak comes off IR anyway, and due to his good play, potential and age, Emmerton would most likely be claimed.


This isn't true is it? Brunnstrom still has to clear re-entry waivers.

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Posted 30 October 2011 - 10:46 AM

it's a shame that such a long post had to be so factually incorrect.

commie's already on the roster. he was hurt, but he was never on IR. this move creates a roster spot for gustav nyquist (most likely).



there's a 23 man roster limit.

right now we've got 22 men on the roster.

count it if you want.


It's a shame that people that base their NHL knowledge on what they're allowed to do in NHL12 are allowed to post here.

http://www.mlive.com...an_smith_1.html

"This enables Smith to serve two more games of his five-game suspension (Thursday and Saturday) while Mike Commodore remains on short-term injured reserve.

Somebody email Ansar Kahn and tell him hes wrong, or call Bettman and tell him that Holland snuck a 24th man on the team.

No, I don't need to count it, I'm educated. Having the ability to throw one of the 23 men down to GR allows them to recall nyquist if they want, or any other play to sit in for one or two games because they have short term injuries, or to recall McDonald if Conklin/Howard need a game off for some reason.

Maybe I should've posted that it was my opinion, but I really don't see what's incorrect...





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