stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted October 31, 2011 Absolutely stellar! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Wings Addict 787 Report post Posted October 31, 2011 Maybe Kronwall's injury-proneness lowered his cap hit a little? I don't know. Just spitballin' trying to figure out why it's not as big as we thought. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwingfan19 293 Report post Posted October 31, 2011 don't like the long contracts but great to see nik jr in the future plans at a great cap hit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted October 31, 2011 How does Kenny sign Kronner for so cheap yet Ericsson gets so overpaid. I don't understand. It's as I've said before; size has value. If White and Ericsson have the exact same season in all aspects, Ericsson is worth much more because he's bigger, even if his size advantage isn't actually utilized. If Kronwall were 6-5 instead of 5-10, he probably has a cap hit of $6m for 7 years. Even if he played the exact same game with the exact same hits. That aside, this deal is an absolute steal. Kronwall is worth $6m minimum based on other deals. One of the 15 best defensemen in the league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
achildr1 255 Report post Posted October 31, 2011 (edited) How does Kenny sign Kronner for so cheap yet Ericsson gets so overpaid. I don't understand. This, seriously. I honestly have no idea what convinced anyone in the front office that Ericsson was worth half that contract. Even more mind bending is the fact that Kronwall probably gets the same contract on the open market, plus at least 1.5 more annually. A Datsyukian deke to the open market by Holland. Edited October 31, 2011 by achildr1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blgillett 48 Report post Posted October 31, 2011 Another great job Ken Holland! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted October 31, 2011 I like the price Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Wings Addict 787 Report post Posted October 31, 2011 My favorite Kronwall hit. (The first one). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACallToArms 270 Report post Posted October 31, 2011 Excellent news. I figured Kronner would be around for a while, and the deal is excellent for the team. Continuing the time honored tradition of taking a reduced salary to play for the best team in hockey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nevermind 363 Report post Posted October 31, 2011 Great signing! Maybe the conversation went something like this... Before Kronwall had even sat down, a stammering Holland broke into an endless array of apologies, "I'm really sorry Nik, I don't know what I was thinking when we gave Ericsson a higher cap hit than you this season...maybe I drank too much that day...But I'm truly sorry, we all know how much you mean to this team and...I apologize that...Kronwall interrupted reassuringly, "Look, Kenny...that's OK. E's got a ton of potential." "Oh yeah, for sure," muttered Holland, a tad wryly. "Let's just get this deal done. A fair one for both sides. I'll let my agent know not to give you a hard time because of the Eri...well, other deals made this past summer." "Thanks, Nik. We'll keep you in Detroit for a long time. Play hard against Washington today. It's gonna be a tight game." "Definitely, Kenny. See ya". A few days later, after some back-and-forth negotiating with J.P. Barry, Kronwall's agent, Holland sends a formal offer. Much to Holland's excitement, Kronwall's camp accepts. However, they send it back with a small stipulation: "Jonathan Ericsson must reimburse all of N. Kronwall's mortgage payments until June 1, 2014." Holland grumbled, "Uh, oh...I can't wait to hear from Bettman about this." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pvilleguru 65 Report post Posted October 31, 2011 I imagine this would also help keep Stuart's new price down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Wings Addict 787 Report post Posted October 31, 2011 Stuart gots a cap hit of 3.75 right now. With this new Kronwall deal and its impact on the imaginable standard, perhaps Stuart's contract will stay the same and/or at most a 200K increase? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted October 31, 2011 I'm not jumping up and down about the contract, but I'm not thinking overpaid either. There are various reasons to think this: - a lot of people are saying he would get $6M on the open market, but would he? Would he get that over a 7 year deal? - he's not going to age gracefully like Lidstrom, I feel safe in saying that. He plays a lot more recless, so I'm not sure how he'll hold up over the 7 years. - the contract takes him to 39 I think, not 38, so the long contract should reduce the otherwise larger expected cap hit - the fact that he gets a limited NTC should also be factored into the cap hit I believe the real wildcard with this is where the cap will go in the future. If the cap keeps going up, long term deals will look really good, obviously, but if the cap stays the same, I do think there is some risk in this deal because I do worry about his durability a bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted October 31, 2011 what a steal. 4.75mil is cheap for him. i was thinking 5-6mil good s*** Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P. Marlowe 748 Report post Posted October 31, 2011 He had 51 points in 08-09. Isn't 51 over 40? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
softshoes 83 Report post Posted October 31, 2011 Looks like my avatar will be good for awhile. Here's to many more Havsplats to come. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvv8 24 Report post Posted October 31, 2011 Spent a long time over the offseason debating which player to have for my new jersey. Eventually decided to go with Kronner, so I'm super happy to see that I'll be able to wear the jersey for a long time to come. Unfortunately, I got it before he was announced as being one of the alternate captains, so no A. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,914 Report post Posted October 31, 2011 I can live with this signing...who am I kidding, I have no say in it, so I have no choice! Anyhow, this is a far better deal than Ericsson's, at least Kronwall has proven his worth and since he isn't gonna get any better (hopefully not quick decline either) $4.75 is a steal. I say offer Stuart $5M and then go hard after Suter this off season! With a top 4 of Suter/Stuart/Kronwall/White, Lidstrom can finally retire and the impact won't be so bad... If Commodore plays his role completely and Smith one year older, I am liking this lineup: Suter - White Kronwall - Stuart Commodore - Ericsson Smith Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted October 31, 2011 I can live with this signing...who am I kidding, I have no say in it, so I have no choice! Anyhow, this is a far better deal than Ericsson's, at least Kronwall has proven his worth and since he isn't gonna get any better (hopefully not quick decline either) $4.75 is a steal. I say offer Stuart $5M and then go hard after Suter this off season! With a top 4 of Suter/Stuart/Kronwall/White, Lidstrom can finally retire and the impact won't be so bad... If Commodore plays his role completely and Smith one year older, I am liking this lineup: Suter - White Kronwall - Stuart Commodore - Ericsson Smith what happens with Kindl? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted October 31, 2011 Great deal. Only a 1.75 million dollar raise, well played Kenny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted October 31, 2011 (edited) what happens with Kindl? Evidently a guy buried in the AHL last year and yet to play a game this season is more valuable than a young prospect that has shown decent upside so far. As far as Kronwall, I love this deal. Gives the Red Wings some flexibility to still pursue someone like Suter next summer too. Kronner was always one of those players you envisioned playing only with the Red Wings. Well done, Kenny Holland. Edited October 31, 2011 by GoWings1905 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragonballgtz 273 Report post Posted October 31, 2011 Isn't 51 over 40? Sorry read it wrong. A wee bit dyslexic while reading that post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,789 Report post Posted October 31, 2011 (edited) I wonder if this exact signing will work in NHL 12 in my "Be A GM Mode"? Edited October 31, 2011 by GMRwings1983 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted October 31, 2011 Just wow. I can't even get that low of a hit in a video game. Kenny must have some compromising photos. I wonder if this exact signing will work in NHL 12 in my "Be A GM Mode"? I got your back already. Isn't 51 over 40? In some circles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,789 Report post Posted November 1, 2011 I got your back already. In some circles. Does the game let you re-sign Kronwall mid season? Doesn't for me. I'm pretty sure he'll be worth more than what he signed in real life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites