Wow! That came out of nowhere! $4.75 mil per year too! That is insane good for a player of his caliber. He could have gotten way more on the open market. Glad to have him back for good.
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Posted 31 October 2011 - 11:18 AM
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Posted 31 October 2011 - 11:22 AM
Wow, that is awesome. Proud of Kenny and Kronner. Good deal all around.
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Posted 31 October 2011 - 11:34 AM
He had 51 points in 08-09.Awesome. It'll be interesting too see how much it is. He's capable of unbeliavable things but still he's scored over 40 points just once in his career. This contract starts when Kronwall is 31 years old.
The cap hit is nice but I take it as they are still looking for that one guy to anchor the defenseman once Lidstrom retires. Pretty much a franchise level defenseman and with the cap they are saving I wouldn't doubt if it they find someone.
About this contract I have mixed emotions still. It's an awesome cap hit but Kronwall has only had two seasons in which he played in over 75 games. I guess that might have been why he agreed to this contract. I guess we shall see in 3 or 4 years if his health can hold up over the years.
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Posted 31 October 2011 - 11:40 AM
$4.75 is ridiculous! Kenny is a God and Kronwall gave up money.
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Posted 31 October 2011 - 11:43 AM
Agreed. Great signing in terms of cap hit and adding stability to the Wings blueline for the next several years. The only real gamble is Kronwall's health. Hopefully his injury prone years are behind him. All in all, great signing.He had 51 points in 08-09.
The cap hit is nice but I take it as they are still looking for that one guy to anchor the defenseman once Lidstrom retires. Pretty much a franchise level defenseman and with the cap they are saving I wouldn't doubt if it they find someone.
About this contract I have mixed emotions still. It's an awesome cap hit but Kronwall has only had two seasons in which he played in over 75 games. I guess that might have been why he agreed to this contract. I guess we shall see in 3 or 4 years if his health can hold up over the years.
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Posted 31 October 2011 - 11:46 AM
Just wow. I can't even get that low of a hit in a video game. Kenny must have some compromising photos.
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Posted 31 October 2011 - 12:05 PM
Great deal for Kronner and the Wings. Obviously, I'm excited about this.
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Posted 31 October 2011 - 12:08 PM
Surprised he didn't ask for more money, considering how much they paid Butt-Head in the offseason.
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Posted 31 October 2011 - 12:22 PM
This thread has turned my day into a 4 hour binge of kronwalling videos
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Posted 31 October 2011 - 12:27 PM
Absolutely stellar!
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Posted 31 October 2011 - 12:44 PM
Maybe Kronwall's injury-proneness lowered his cap hit a little? I don't know. Just spitballin' trying to figure out why it's not as big as we thought.
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Posted 31 October 2011 - 12:49 PM
don't like the long contracts but great to see nik jr in the future plans at a great cap hit.
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Posted 31 October 2011 - 01:23 PM
How does Kenny sign Kronner for so cheap yet Ericsson gets so overpaid. I don't understand.
It's as I've said before; size has value. If White and Ericsson have the exact same season in all aspects, Ericsson is worth much more because he's bigger, even if his size advantage isn't actually utilized.
If Kronwall were 6-5 instead of 5-10, he probably has a cap hit of $6m for 7 years. Even if he played the exact same game with the exact same hits.
That aside, this deal is an absolute steal. Kronwall is worth $6m minimum based on other deals. One of the 15 best defensemen in the league.
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Posted 31 October 2011 - 01:30 PM
How does Kenny sign Kronner for so cheap yet Ericsson gets so overpaid. I don't understand.
This, seriously. I honestly have no idea what convinced anyone in the front office that Ericsson was worth half that contract. Even more mind bending is the fact that Kronwall probably gets the same contract on the open market, plus at least 1.5 more annually. A Datsyukian deke to the open market by Holland.
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Posted 31 October 2011 - 01:41 PM
Another great job Ken Holland!
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Posted 31 October 2011 - 01:44 PM
I like the price
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Posted 31 October 2011 - 01:44 PM
My favorite Kronwall hit. (The first one).
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Posted 31 October 2011 - 01:50 PM
Excellent news. I figured Kronner would be around for a while, and the deal is excellent for the team. Continuing the time honored tradition of taking a reduced salary to play for the best team in hockey.
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Posted 31 October 2011 - 01:55 PM
Great signing!
Maybe the conversation went something like this...
Maybe the conversation went something like this...
Before Kronwall had even sat down, a stammering Holland broke into an endless array of apologies, "I'm really sorry Nik, I don't know what I was thinking when we gave Ericsson a higher cap hit than you this season...maybe I drank too much that day...But I'm truly sorry, we all know how much you mean to this team and...I apologize that...
Kronwall interrupted reassuringly, "Look, Kenny...that's OK. E's got a ton of potential."
"Oh yeah, for sure," muttered Holland, a tad wryly.
"Let's just get this deal done. A fair one for both sides. I'll let my agent know not to give you a hard time because of the Eri...well, other deals made this past summer."
"Thanks, Nik. We'll keep you in Detroit for a long time. Play hard against Washington today. It's gonna be a tight game."
"Definitely, Kenny. See ya".
A few days later, after some back-and-forth negotiating with J.P. Barry, Kronwall's agent, Holland sends a formal offer. Much to Holland's excitement, Kronwall's camp accepts. However, they send it back with a small stipulation: "Jonathan Ericsson must reimburse all of N. Kronwall's mortgage payments until June 1, 2014."
Holland grumbled, "Uh, oh...I can't wait to hear from Bettman about this."
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