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11/1 GDT: Wild 2 at Red Wings 1 (OT)


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#501 Electrophile

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 09:37 PM

It was the 2nd period when the game started getting choppy with penalties which broke up the flow the game. Why do you think Nyquist didn't get much ice time? Because Wings were always on the PK.

...And you expect a lot out of team to score goals and win games while killing penalties. Perhaps a bit unreasonable to expect that... unless, of course, you are playing NHL12 on xBox on easy mode, then I guess it's feasible.



Yes, I expect a lot of the Wings. I expect them to not play with their heads up their asses. What I also expect is that when they're not shorthanded, they score some goals from time to time. I expect their defense in front of the net to be stronger. Jimmy was great tonight, this loss isn't on him. I expect the players to not be sloppy and lethargic looking all the time.

Is it wrong to expect the Red Wings to manage more than one goal a game, irrespective of whether they had one penalty called against them or twenty? We weren't on the PK all damn night.

your welcome. i just see you post on here very often and i will honestly say you are one of the best posters in here. your funny, your insults are just so goddamn hilarious i just sometimes spill my beer after reading them. i dont mean to compliment you too much but after this loss i feel the need to :blush:

oh..and go wings


Well, I appreciate it all the same. A little ego boost never hurt anyone. :)

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 09:37 PM

Well, at least Lidstrom said what he felt about the non-call. Won't change the outcome, but refs blew the play, period.

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 09:39 PM

Well, at least Lidstrom said what he felt about the non-call. Won't change the outcome, but refs blew the play, period.



No, but it means something if someone like Nick is speaking out about it. If it's egregious enough to get his attention, it means something in the milk ain't clean.

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 09:41 PM

I honestly wonder wtf Franzen was thinking when he tried to squeeze in between the Wild player and goalie on that last penalty. They were making calls against your team all night and you want to try to pull that crap.

Hopefully after this game people stat to realize that Bert is one of the players the Wings must/need to get ride of. He adds nothing meaningful to this team and is exhibit A when needing to point out our lack of consistency, lack of defensive responsibility, horrible turnovers, and just straight out heartless play.

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 09:42 PM

Well, I appreciate it all the same. A little ego boost never hurt anyone. :)


again im sorry i dont need to compliment often. but in fact ive been tryin to tell you for sometime but i just couldnt find the right time. maybe this wasnt the best time to or maybe it was. but in saying that..if there is something that i say that is very bad and deserves insult then i give you full permission to insult me in any way.
heres something to start: i live in canada, i love the toronto blue jays, im a sap when it comes to movies, and i like to walk around naked in my house. there you go. :)

oh..and go wings. win on thursday

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 09:42 PM

Positives:

- Lidstrom
- Jimmy
- I like the new 1st PP set up with Zetterberg on the point.
- Ericsson played pretty well

Thats all I got.


I thought we moved better without the puck on the PP. Too often four guys seem to stand there and stare at the guy with the puck.

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 09:44 PM

Koivu ... it's Brendan Shanahan calling about that elbow to the head.

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 09:46 PM

Koivu ... it's Brendan Shanahan calling about that elbow to the head.

are you serious with this? did you even watch the replay?

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 09:46 PM

Koivu ... it's Brendan Shanahan calling about that elbow to the head.

Didn't look like an elbow just shoulder.

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 09:56 PM

Didn't look like an elbow just shoulder.

If anything, it would have been an interference call against Koivu for not playing the puck. Kronwall had every intention to play the puck. Koivu took him out of the play. The referee down low was looking in front of the net. I don't know where the ref up high was looking, but maybe he saw it differently.

In the end, you can't let the game come down to that. The Wings had to put a puck past Harding and they couldn't do it. You aren't going to win many games scoring one goal.
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Posted 01 November 2011 - 10:00 PM

This loss could've been avoided if Ericsson fought someone.
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Posted 01 November 2011 - 10:04 PM

Didn't look like an elbow just shoulder.


He jumped, so it's really irrelevant.

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 10:08 PM

In the end, you can't let the game come down to that. The Wings had to put a puck past Harding and they couldn't do it. You aren't going to win many games scoring one goal.

I certainly agree with the latter statement, but not the former. The score could have been anything -- 1-1, 3-3 -- the game hung in the balance and the referee made the mistake that hurt the Wings. For all of everything else they could have done to that point, they were still in the game, and it was still his missed call that ended it.

Of course I understand that refs blow plays just like players do -- just like Franzen did to bring about the PK -- but I'm not letting Franzen off the hook for that stupid play, so I don't see why I should forgive the refs either.
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Posted 01 November 2011 - 10:17 PM

:ranting: :ranting: :ranting:

.500 thats an F minus where I come from. As of now its watching Jimmy is like watching Barry S on the Lions back in the day, does awesome on a consistent basis and the rest of team end up being a let down..

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 10:23 PM

Lidstrom said he thinks the shoulder to kronwall is a penalty during post game interview, and that its been called on bert multiple times this season so far...say what you want but I agree with nick

Most of us do.

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 10:31 PM

I'm beginning to look at this Wings team as being akin to the 1975 Tigers. The Tigers that year were loaded with all-stars. They had Bill Freehan, Willie Horton, Mickey Lolich, and John Hiller. Add to that core such luminaries as Nate Colbert, Jerry Manuel, Chuck Scrivener, and Bob Molinaro. The Tigers finished something like 57-102 that year, and for several years the Tigers trotted out a whole bunch of players like the later four I just mentioned, and things didn't get better for a long time.
Similarly, the Wings have Pavel, Nick, and sometimes Z. But I think the rest of the squad is just not that good. Not as bad as those Tigers I mentioned, but still nothing special. They were interviewing one of the "young Wings" after the game, and I had no idea who it was - they're all beginning to look alike and sound alike. Do you think Darren McCarty would be quiet in the locker room after this? I doubt it. But we just seem to have a bunch of small, humble, expressionless skill players who don't seem to have enough skill. They just go out there, go through the motions, and get pushed around. Can you imagine Gerard Gallant playing like this?
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Posted 01 November 2011 - 10:36 PM

I don't generally agree or even care to listen to JR, but he brought up an interesting point on Versus tonight. Maybe the Red Wings miss a guy like Draper more than we know or expected. While it's still a veteran team, Drapes was always the vocal leader in the room. I'm not making excuses for scoring five goals in five games, but to build on speculation that the team has possibly begun tuning out Babcock, and not having Draper around maybe intensifies any tension that has built.

Clearly this was a tough night. I guess I don't understand why the Red Wings best players can't score goals at all right now. On paper this looks likes one of the deepest forward units in the league. Nyquist hardly got to play thanks to dumb and dumber in stripes, but you are still asking a rookie to spark the top six. It may be time to dangle Filppula (one of our few NHL assets) or Franzen (not sure there is a market for him) for a legitimate sniper/power forward.

Bertuzzi needs to sit. He doesn't bring anything to this team besides boneheaded penalties. I still feel like the Red Wings have the potential to be very good, but boy this is frustrating to watch. I am sick of hearing them say "We just gotta do it." No kidding, guys.

Edited by GoWings1905, 01 November 2011 - 10:43 PM.

 
 
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Posted 01 November 2011 - 10:40 PM

I wish everyone on this team had the same fighting spirit as Jimmy Howard. Did you see his reactions after the game, he was ready to explode, I wouldn't want to be near him in the locker room. Half the players on this team look like the game means nothing to them, they should look to Jimmy's reactions and see what passion is.

Fantastic game from Howard tonight, too bad we're giving him no offense to work with.

I don't generally agree or even care to listen to JR, but he brought up an interesting point on Versus tonight. Maybe the Red Wings miss a guy like Draper more than we know or expected. While it's still a veteran team, Drapes was always the vocal leader in the room. I'm not making excuses for scoring five goals in five games, but to build on speculation that maybe the team has begun tuning out Babcock, and not having Draper around maybe intensifies any tension that has built.

Clearly this was a tough night. I guess I don't understand why the Red Wings best players can't score goals at all right now. On paper this looks likes one of the deepest forward units in the league. Nyquist hardly got to play thanks to dumb and dumber in stripes, but you are still asking a rookie to spark the top six. It may be time to dangle Filppula (one of our few NHL assets) or Franzen (not sure there is a market for him) for a legitimate sniper/power forward.

Bertuzzi needs to sit. He doesn't bring anything to this team besides boneheaded penalties. I still feel like the Red Wings have the potential to be very good, but boy this is frustrating to watch. I am sick of hearing them say "We just gotta do it." No kidding, guys.

Say what??? Draper had to be moved on, and the Wings didn't know Mursak was going to injure his ankle, because Jan was there to effectively replace him on that 4th line.

Edited by Aussie_Wing, 01 November 2011 - 10:37 PM.

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 10:42 PM

I wish everyone on this team had the same fighting spirit as Jimmy Howard. Did you see his reactions after the game, he was ready to explode, I wouldn't want to be near him in the locker room. Half the players on this team look like the game means nothing to them, they should look to Jimmy's reactions and see what passion is.

Fantastic game from Howard tonight, too bad we're giving him no offense to work with.


Say what??? Draper had to be moved on, and the Wings didn't know Mursak was going to injure his ankle, because Jan was there to effectively replace him on that 4th line.


I don't disagree with you. Doesn't mean the Wings don't miss Draper for other reasons mentioned.
 
 
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Posted 01 November 2011 - 10:45 PM

I don't disagree with you. Doesn't mean the Wings don't miss Draper for other reasons mentioned.

Yes, but you don't give him a 1 year deal just to have inspiration speeches when we have losing streaks. You couldn't keep him around forever.

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