eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted November 3, 2011 Actully no. If the ball is red, the FACT is that the ball is red. If you take that FACT and form an opinion from a different perspective and say the ball is blue, I wouldn't call that an opinion, I'd call it simply being WRONG. What if you're color blind? Or the Doppler example HoH posted. It's also true that different animals or even individuals of the same species see and hear into different ranges; so "red" is entirely subjective. Actully no. If the ball is red, the FACT is that the ball is red. If you take that FACT and form an opinion from a different perspective and say the ball is blue, I wouldn't call that an opinion, I'd call it simply being WRONG. What if you're color blind? Or the Doppler example HoH posted. It's also true that different animals or even individuals of the same species see and hear into different ranges; so "red" is entirely subjective. 1 Finnish Wing reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted November 8, 2011 (edited) I just realized why Sheldon Souray has seemingly revitalized his career. Because he's dating WWE diva Kelly Kelly. Don't know if he'll be a Norris nominee, but he should get some kind of award for this accomplishment. Edited November 8, 2011 by GMRwings1983 5 Frozen-Man, number9, Detroit \# 1 Fan and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted November 8, 2011 If I had a vote and voted today... 1. Chara 2. Letang 3. Souray Chara and Lidstrom are picking it up. Phaneuf is cooling off offensively it seems. Weber and Boyle are on the radar. Green is injured. Got my eye on Edler as well. Always really liked the kid. If he can learn to play sound D he would be really good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted November 8, 2011 (edited) Lidstrom, playing on a team that just went through a painful six game losing streak in which they didn't score more than twice in a game is only 5 points behind #1 in defensemen and has three games in hand on #1. He's also only 8 off of #1 in +/-, again during a time when his team was outscored by a ridiculous amount. He can make that up in a couple of games. Lidstrom will win it this year, I think, but it's probably way too early. Edited November 8, 2011 by VM1138 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
achildr1 255 Report post Posted November 8, 2011 Actully no. If the ball is red, the FACT is that the ball is red. If you take that FACT and form an opinion from a different perspective and say the ball is blue, I wouldn't call that an opinion, I'd call it simply being WRONG. Truth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragonballgtz 273 Report post Posted November 8, 2011 FACT: Opinions are facts viewed from different perspectives. FACT!!!11!1!1one: Opinions are like assholes... everyone has one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmamolo 287 Report post Posted November 8, 2011 Problem is that Eva tends to communicate personal opinions as if they were facts. Bingo FACT: Opinions are facts viewed from different perspectives. Nope What if you're color blind? Or the Doppler example HoH posted. It's also true that different animals or even individuals of the same species see and hear into different ranges; so "red" is entirely subjective. The colour red is a range of colour based on science that humans have adopted and defined. The true colour of red is fact. Your perceptive (based on eye sight, perception, interpretation etc.) can be coined an 'opinion'. However, that does not imply that your opinion is now fact. Just like in the example, the ball may appear to be blue to you but the ball has not become blue. It is still in fact red. Unless the ball goes through a physical change it's still red. Besides, I don't think you're sitting on LGW cheering for the Blue Wings... 1 Frozen-Man reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holliday 1,888 Report post Posted November 8, 2011 Fact: People are getting caught up in an irrelevant conversation in a thread about defensemen. 5 Electrophile, Frozen-Man, number9 and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted November 9, 2011 Lidstrom, playing on a team that just went through a painful six game losing streak in which they didn't score more than twice in a game is only 5 points behind #1 in defensemen and has three games in hand on #1. He's also only 8 off of #1 in +/-, again during a time when his team was outscored by a ridiculous amount. He can make that up in a couple of games. Lidstrom will win it this year, I think, but it's probably way too early. im thinkin its gonna come down to lidstrom, chara, letang Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted November 9, 2011 Just like in the example, the ball may appear to be blue to you but the ball has not become blue. It is still in fact red. Unless the ball goes through a physical change it's still red. The color of an object is defined by the light that reflects off the surface. So what appears red to one person may appear blue to another, depending on the circumstances and the perspective. For example, a during a half moon, part of the moon is a bright silver-gray and part of the moon is a very dark gray, almost black. About a month later, it will be the reverse. The bright side will be dark and the dark side light. The color has not changed at all, but the circumstances have. 1 Finnish Wing reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted November 9, 2011 The color of an object is defined by the light that reflects off the surface. So what appears red to one person may appear blue to another, depending on the circumstances and the perspective. For example, a during a half moon, part of the moon is a bright silver-gray and part of the moon is a very dark gray, almost black. About a month later, it will be the reverse. The bright side will be dark and the dark side light. The color has not changed at all, but the circumstances have. some people think BS smells like flowers...but at the end of the day it's still BS this isn't a ball, or the moon, or ROYGBIV...this is hockey, and if you want to pretend your not wrong, then we'll say your "opinion" is far-off, awful, stinky, not good, or simply BAD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Wings Addict 787 Report post Posted November 9, 2011 Fact. Lidstrom eats beets. Lidstrom... Beats... Every defenseman in the league. MICHAEL! 3 Konnan511, eva unit zero and Doc Holliday reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted November 9, 2011 Lidstrom is only on pace for 40 goals. Lame. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted November 9, 2011 Fact. Lidstrom eats beets. Lidstrom... Beats... Every defenseman in the league. MICHAEL! Wait, what are you doing? MICHAEL!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted November 16, 2011 Seems like it will come down to Lids, Chara, and Weber again as of now. Maybe Letang Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Wings Addict 787 Report post Posted November 16, 2011 Seems like it will come down to Lids, Chara, and Weber again as of now. Maybe Letang Letang is the front runner according to some of the media. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
