wingfan1991 221 Report post Posted November 13, 2011 from detnews today .. damn don't wanna lose him, guess his family is still out in Cali? Stuart lights lamp for family After stating publicly this week that considerations of living closer to home will figure prominently in his decision to re-sign with the Red Wings for next season and beyond, Brad Stuart scored his first goal of the season Saturday. From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20111112/SPORTS0103/111120417/Wings-defenseman-Ian-White-sacrifices-face-for-the-team#ixzz1daf0aV43 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reds4Life 51 Report post Posted November 13, 2011 Stuart is solid defenseman, it would be good to have him for a few more years (as long as he does not want more money). 1 Hockeytown0001 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted November 13, 2011 I thought his family moved to Detroit last year or so? Hm...that sounds like he plans on leaving then, whichw ill suck. He's been a great fit and you'd think he would want to stop being a journeyman. Will suck if we have to replace Lidstrom and Stuart. 1 LidsFan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,949 Report post Posted November 13, 2011 (edited) Well, I would hope that if he does want to move closer to home next year he does one of two things, A. Tells the Wings early enough of his decision so they can trade him to LA at the deadline for Penner or 2. HE lets them know he wants to finish the year out with the Wings and THEN go home, so after the season he re-signs a sign and trade contract with the Wings that the Kings like and gets's traded to the Kings for Penner (who also does a sign/trade.) Of course there is always option C. I'd like to see him re-sign here and when/if Lidstrom retires and Holland gets Suter (or Weber via deadline trade(yes I am thinking positive)) he will still be part of the NHL's best defensive corps and help bring one or two more Cups here.... (positive thinking feels good this morning!) Edited November 13, 2011 by LeftWinger 2 Rick D and Uncle Danny reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St. Michael (the Red Wing) 422 Report post Posted November 13, 2011 I'd keep him if the price was right. However if family being in Cali. Definitely seeing the Kings or Ducks maybe throwing some more cash his way. Oh well, thing with Stewy is that too many times these last few seasons it seems he takes night's off. :/ Having said that he's looked pretty good these last few games especially last night. So I might have to bite my tongue. I think he's replaceable though in the end and either way no worries it will all pan itself out... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjlegend 155 Report post Posted November 13, 2011 This team needs Dustin Penner's compete level like it needs a hole in the head. I'm not the biggest Stuart fan but send him away if and only if he gets a quality defenceman back in return. 5 hooon, Z Winged Dangler, Wingzman91 and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wing Across The Pond 196 Report post Posted November 13, 2011 Would love to see him stay, he knows the team, has good chemistry. The tiniest part of me is also saying, meh. He hasn't been great this year (which I know hardly any of the team had been during that streak), and at times seems a bit less physical - especially since he broke his jaw. I mean this is a guy who used to fight every so often, but now seems to avoid it at all costs. That being said, think when Lids eventually goes, we will need him to pair with Kronner and continue that solid partnership. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted November 13, 2011 For the price we pay for Stuart, he brings a lot of value back, but I wouldn't be sad if didn't re-sign him because I think we could easily get an upgrade over him. 2 Rick D and VikingMark reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buppy 1,720 Report post Posted November 13, 2011 For the price we pay for Stuart, he brings a lot of value back, but I wouldn't be sad if didn't re-sign him because I think we could easily get an upgrade over him. I don't know about 'easy'. There's not a lot of good defensemen on the market. Defensively, he's been our 2nd best defenseman since he got here, and steps up his effort in the playoffs. I think some of us are too spoiled by Nick to appreciate his defense, and he'll always be vilified for game 7. That said, his lack of offensive acumen limits his value in our system. Ideally, Nick will come back and Kindl, Ericsson, or Smith will step up to take a top 4 spot, and we won't need Stu or any of the good FAs so anyone we do land will be like a bonus (or we can focus on fowards). If Nick retires I think we'll need a top FA, plus the kids stepping up, and either Stuie or another good FA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukianDangles122 16 Report post Posted November 13, 2011 Trade Stuart, a couple picks (e.g. 1st + 2nd), and a prospect for Dustin Brown and Alec Martinez at the deadline? Would be good IMO, yes we would lost out on defence but Brown is a great upgrade offensively and finally provides a winger that Datsyuk can rely on to bury the chances he gets. Martinez isn't bad and maybe they want something more for him, but I do think we need to at least grab some sort of Dman in the deal. This trade is good for both teams IMO, gives LA a good dman to rely on (and maybe he'll perform better there - close to family etc), a couple good picks, and a prospect (e.g. Tatar) that could turn out to be great. Gives us an elite scoring winger and a good dman. Thoughts? 1 newfy reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeff48109 474 Report post Posted November 13, 2011 Ryan Suter 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scott Stevens 44 Report post Posted November 13, 2011 Outside of a few stretches while playing with Lidstrom, Stuart has been extremely average imo. I think this is an excellent opportunity and perfect time to unload him and not look for anything in return except the cap room. The Red Wings have a good group of young defensemen and a top 3 that are probably one of the best top 3's in the league. I really like the look of: Lidstrom/White, Kronwall/Commodore, Kindl/Ericsson, Smith next year. And if they dump Holmstrom, Hudler, Bertuzzi, and Stuart, then they gain about 9 million of cap room. I guarantee they can pull in a good defenseman like Matt Carle for 5-6 million a sesason if they want to. Brad Stuart has been consistent. That's the best attribute he's brought to this team. But it's time for him to move back home. 1 VikingMark reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RusDRW 155 Report post Posted November 13, 2011 Gives us an elite scoring winger and a good dman. Thoughts? are you refferring to Dustin Brown as "elite scoring winger"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted November 13, 2011 If we shed Hudler’s 2.8 and Stuart’s 3.5 or whatever, and Lidstrom comes back for 5.5 or something: Suter Kronwall Lidstrom White Smith Kindl Ericsson Not bad...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stuck in socal 56 Report post Posted November 13, 2011 Kings are not trading their captain away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wing Across The Pond 196 Report post Posted November 13, 2011 I don't know about 'easy'. There's not a lot of good defensemen on the market. Defensively, he's been our 2nd best defenseman since he got here, and steps up his effort in the playoffs. I think some of us are too spoiled by Nick to appreciate his defense, and he'll always be vilified for game 7. That said, his lack of offensive acumen limits his value in our system. Ideally, Nick will come back and Kindl, Ericsson, or Smith will step up to take a top 4 spot, and we won't need Stu or any of the good FAs so anyone we do land will be like a bonus (or we can focus on fowards). If Nick retires I think we'll need a top FA, plus the kids stepping up, and either Stuie or another good FA. We also have Commodore who can provide cover, providing he signs another year (as far as I know it's only 1 yr?). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted November 13, 2011 Trade Stuart, a couple picks (e.g. 1st + 2nd), and a prospect for Dustin Brown and Alec Martinez at the deadline? Would be good IMO, yes we would lost out on defence but Brown is a great upgrade offensively and finally provides a winger that Datsyuk can rely on to bury the chances he gets. Martinez isn't bad and maybe they want something more for him, but I do think we need to at least grab some sort of Dman in the deal. This trade is good for both teams IMO, gives LA a good dman to rely on (and maybe he'll perform better there - close to family etc), a couple good picks, and a prospect (e.g. Tatar) that could turn out to be great. Gives us an elite scoring winger and a good dman. Thoughts? My thought is that the Kings are very unlikely to be in a playoff bind come the deadline; that they're very unlikely to trade away their captain; and that they don't need another defensive D-man. 1 Frozen-Man reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newfy 695 Report post Posted November 13, 2011 Well honestly I cat blame him for wanting to go back closer to his family, it must be tough. His play seems affected by it as well, he has seemed to be declining a bit in my eyes the last year or so. Hello Tim Gleason, pending UFA after thisoffseason. 4 years younger, FROM MICHIGAN which could figure to be huge, capable of the exact same offensive output, a tough fighter and a very rugged physical guy much like Stuart is and plays witha legit mean streak. Really if Stuart walks, I see Gleason as an upgrade by a decent margin and I think he is a more solid defensive defenseman. Stuart is a solid guy, and if he sticks around thats great but Gleason is basically a better version and that would be a great chance to improve the team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted November 13, 2011 (edited) Hello Tim Gleason, pending UFA after thisoffseason. I've never seen Tim Gleason as anything more than an average defenseman. FROM MICHIGAN which could figure to be huge I don't understand this mentality. He grew up in Michigan. Whoopee. What's the big deal? Edited November 13, 2011 by Crymson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted November 13, 2011 I wouldn't be upset if Stuart left after this year. I can understand that he wants to be closer to his family, and family ultimately overrides hockey. He's looked sluggish this year. He's been a big part of our defense since he was acquired in '07/'08, but I think there are better options out there. If Lidstrom retires after the season, and Stuart leaves to be closer to his family, and Commodore is let go for another #7 defenseman, the defense will look a lot different. Too early to accurately predict anythingobviously, but I'll throw this out there: X-Kronwall X-White Ericsson-Kindl X/Smith Possible replacements for Lidstrom: Ryan Suter Shea Weber (Long-shot, but still) Possible replacements for Stuart: Tim Gleason Sheldon Souray Adrian Aucoin Willie Mitchell Cory Sarich Possible replacements for Commodore: Jim Vandermeer Bryan Allen Sheldon Brookbank Shane O'Brien Suter-Kronwall Gleason-White Ericsson-Kindl O'Brien Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrie 900 Report post Posted November 13, 2011 I've been a fan of Stuart since he got here, but if he didn't re-sign, I don't think it's that bad. He is 32, and we'd probably have to sign him for 4 years to bring him back. We could get someone who's younger to take his spot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,793 Report post Posted November 13, 2011 It wouldn't be a big loss. He hasn't had a good season so far and surely the great Kenny Holland could find a comparable replacement with so much cap space, especially if Lidstrom retires also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newfy 695 Report post Posted November 13, 2011 I've never seen Tim Gleason as anything more than an average defenseman. I don't understand this mentality. He grew up in Michigan. Whoopee. What's the big deal? Well by stay at home, tough defenseman standards he is one of the best. 5th in the league in hits last year, more blocked shots than any wing last season,logs 21 minutes a night 3 mins of which is short handed. Hes one of the most solid stay at home types in the league and was a good enough for the silver medal winning olympic hockey team. Hes a pretty big upgrade over Stuart, he does everything he does plus fights and is 4 years younger. As for the Michigan thing, we're talking about a guy who is leaving the most successful franchise of the last 20 years to be near his family most likely, and you dont think being from Michigan could have an effect? The face of American hockey who had played for one organization for his whole career signed a one year with Detroit because its where hes from and tarnished a great legacy in many people's eyes. Being from the area has a huge effect for a lot of players its pretty obvious, its obviously a big deal to be near their families and where they grew up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted November 13, 2011 I wouldn't be upset if Stuart left after this year. I can understand that he wants to be closer to his family, and family ultimately overrides hockey. He's looked sluggish this year. He's been a big part of our defense since he was acquired in '07/'08, but I think there are better options out there. If Lidstrom retires after the season, and Stuart leaves to be closer to his family, and Commodore is let go for another #7 defenseman, the defense will look a lot different. Too early to accurately predict anythingobviously, but I'll throw this out there: X-Kronwall X-White Ericsson-Kindl X/Smith Possible replacements for Lidstrom: Ryan Suter Shea Weber (Long-shot, but still) Possible replacements for Stuart: Tim Gleason Sheldon Souray Adrian Aucoin Willie Mitchell Cory Sarich Possible replacements for Commodore: Jim Vandermeer Bryan Allen Sheldon Brookbank Shane O'Brien Suter-Kronwall Gleason-White Ericsson-Kindl O'Brien Why no Smith? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted November 13, 2011 Why no Smith? Do you think they'll have him in GR for another year? Or do you think he'll be a full-time Wing next year? I think they'll give him a few games next year, but they typically wait till they're "Over-ripe". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites