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#21 toby91_ca

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 09:56 AM

Carcillo was suspended for 2 games for a more dangerous boarding (in my opinion) at the end of October. Letang was also suspended 2 games for boarding mid-October. In pre-season, Sestito delivered a much more full-on hit from behind into the boards and rec'd 2 games in the regular season (+ 3 preseason, which I don't really cound for much). Also, in the preseason, Letourneau-Leblond rec'd 1 regular season game (+ 4 preseason) - he's a repeat offender.

Even if you think this hit was on the same level of these others, he should not get any more than 2 games. In my opinion, the contact was less than the examples I gave.

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 10:10 AM

I about lost my freakin' mind when I saw that hit. Thank God all the doors and windows were shut because there were some serious epithets flying. I can't believe he came back the next period; what a beast. My head would still be ringing.
If Shanny stays true to form, my guess would be 8 games.


8 games? Nah.
How is that "true to form" for Shanahan?

Here is a list of this year's Shanabans (reg. season games) for boarding:
Carcillo - Boarding - 2 games
Letang - Boarding - 2 games
Sestito - Boarding - 4 games
Staubitz - Boarding - 3 games
Shelley - Boarding - 5 games
Letourneau-Leblond - Boarding - 1 game

Shanahan has dished out much more severe suspensions for illegal hits to the head.

Now, with that said...I figure Stewart will get suspended, but I can't imagine it will be for 8 games.
I'm going to say 2 or 3 games.

Edited by cprice12, 16 November 2011 - 10:12 AM.


#23 P. Marlowe

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 11:32 AM

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St. Louis Blues forward Chris Stewart has a disciplinary hearing on Wednesday morning for his hit from behind during Tuesday's win over the Detroit Red Wings.


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Posted 16 November 2011 - 11:45 AM

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Started at 11am, so it's likely done now, I'm guessing we should get word of ruling this afternoon.

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 12:00 PM

I'm guessing Sheriff Shanny is going to give him a 3-game suspension for that hit. It's in line with what he's doled out for similar infractions. I can't see Shanahan giving a player a lengthier suspension than another just because the hit was aimed toward a Red Wing. That would undo all the good I think he's done in the short time he's held the post.

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 12:05 PM

I'm guessing Sheriff Shanny is going to give him a 3-game suspension for that hit. It's in line with what he's doled out for similar infractions. I can't see Shanahan giving a player a lengthier suspension than another just because the hit was aimed toward a Red Wing. That would undo all the good I think he's done in the short time he's held the post.


Shanahan played for St. Louis too.

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 12:14 PM

Started at 11am, so it's likely done now, I'm guessing we should get word of ruling this afternoon.


I didn't realize it was that much already over there. By the way, how did you know that it started at 11 AM? I haven't seen that information anywhere.

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 12:16 PM

Is Stewart considered a "star" player?

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 12:17 PM

Utterly pointless and needless hit...one wonders wtf he was thinking?
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Posted 16 November 2011 - 12:32 PM

I didn't realize it was that much already over there. By the way, how did you know that it started at 11 AM? I haven't seen that information anywhere.


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BTW, Chris Stewart's hearing is at 11 a.m. ET.



#31 Electrophile

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 12:45 PM

Shanahan played for St. Louis too.


Really?! Gee, I had no idea.......

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 12:49 PM

Really?! Gee, I had no idea.......

Yup. He just had a better time here! :lol:

Anywho, I'm surprised there's been no press release yet. It seems pretty cut-and-dried to me, not much room for debate other than how many games. After having read up on Shanny's inconsistent penalties lately, 2 games is probably the call.
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Posted 16 November 2011 - 12:50 PM

I'd like 3+ games to send a little message that that kind of play is incredibly needless, avoidable, and unacceptable.

My guess is that because Kronwall came back into the game and played, it won't be as severe. Two games likely.

Stewart is a good hard player, but you just NEVER hit a guy when he is in that position a few feet from the boards. They teach you that when you're a Mite and Squirt.
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Posted 16 November 2011 - 01:22 PM

@TSNBobMcKenzie

BTW, Chris Stewart's hearing is at 11 a.m. ET.


McKenzie, of course. Thanks.

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 01:47 PM

Man I hope it's not a serious injury, like a shoulder or wrist or something. Looked potentially bad. :angry:

And maybe it's my fault, I have both White and Kronwall in my fantasy team...

I thought the same last night.


Also, I'm betting it's 2 games. I could even see it just being 1 game. The fact Kronwall came back in the same game, and Shanahan does consider the effect (injury) of the hit to be a factor, says something. Also, the track record for boarding/hit from behinds was already documented in this thread.

It's kind of funny to me that the NHL sees fit to punish hits to the head more severely than hits from behind. Or at least that's the way it seems so far. To me hits from behind are far more dangerous because they can lead to all types of serious injuries including concsussions.
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Posted 16 November 2011 - 02:03 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPczOMJus-I


I missed the first period and a half. Woof. That was bad.

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 02:27 PM

Really?! Gee, I had no idea.......


Wasn't talking to you my friend.

Was talking to someone else who seemingly forgot.
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#38 Electrophile

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 03:16 PM

Wasn't talking to you my friend.

Was talking to someone else who seemingly forgot.


You quoted my post, so it stands to reason that I'd think you were talking to me.

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 03:35 PM

You quoted my post, so it stands to reason that I'd think you were talking to me.


Whoops...my mistake.
Was looking at the wrong username.

With that said...
So using that argument of possible favoritism is moot in this case because Shanny has played for both teams involved.

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 04:01 PM

Announcers "It's fortunate for Kronwall that he's not going head first."

What, it really looked like he was going head first into the boards. But this article says that Kronwall was able to turn his head.

"It could have been a lot worse," said Kronwall, who returned to start the second period and wound up playing 21:59. "I was just able to turn my head (at the last second). I was lucky. They brought me in here (the locker room) to do the testing but I felt fine."

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