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#1 Scott Stevens

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 05:50 PM

Everytime I watch him, he seems to do pretty well. And he seems to display a pretty good skill level. Why is this guy getting scratched all the time? He must be a lockerroom problem / not work hard enough or something. Anybody have any dirt on this guy? There must be something about him off the ice that's causing him to not be a regular on the ice.

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 05:57 PM

He's not really as physical/big as the other 4th line options so I'm guessing he'll be the odd man out most of the time unless he can start scoring.

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 06:34 PM

The rest of the team is mad because he always beats them in Ping Pong.

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 06:36 PM

His Eaves' face is scaring all the small children.
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Posted 21 November 2011 - 06:41 PM

Ok people, paying attention during the game helps.
Eaves has been injured, nagging back issues, they say this every game he isn't in.
There is no one in a doghouse, there is no conspiracy, there is no reason for this topic.



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Posted 21 November 2011 - 06:45 PM

Ok people, paying attention during the game helps.
Eaves has been injured, nagging back issues, they say this every game he isn't in.
There is no one in a doghouse, there is no conspiracy, there is no reason for this topic.



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#7 Scott Stevens

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 06:45 PM

Ok people, paying attention during the game helps.
Eaves has been injured, nagging back issues, they say this every game he isn't in.
There is no one in a doghouse, there is no conspiracy, there is no reason for this topic.




It's got to be more than this.

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 06:46 PM

The rest of the team is mad because he always beats them in Ping Pong.


This. He's addicted to the ping pong, and they're trying to wean him off it by only dressing him ever other game or so. Straight back into hockey and he might have withdrawals.

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 07:46 PM

It's got to be more than this.


You are wrong.
If he was healthy, he would be playing more often.
This is not a surprise that he doesn't play every game, since he has never played a full season in the NHL.
He's a little guy, in a tough sport, he plays awesome for his size but that also must wear on him.
The bottom line is, you don't sign someone for 3 years if that player is cancer.

To the serious comment:
I felt it necessary to answer the question, since 3 people including yourself bothered to respond and only one response was on topic.

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 08:14 PM

The rest of the team is mad because he always beats them in Ping Pong.

Zing! :D

That was a good one.

Anyways, no clue. He has decent offensive upside for 3rd/4th line minutes, had a solid playoffs last season. Wings have depth, but I'm scratching my head at this one as well some.

You are wrong.
If he was healthy, he would be playing more often.
This is not a surprise that he doesn't play every game, since he has never played a full season in the NHL.
He's a little guy, in a tough sport, he plays awesome for his size but that also must wear on him.
The bottom line is, you don't sign someone for 3 years if that player is cancer.

To the serious comment:
I felt it necessary to answer the question, since 3 people including yourself bothered to respond and only one response was on topic.

Eaves is a cancer? Come on man...

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 09:07 PM

Answer:


Eaves sat out the first game hurt, allowing Drew Miller into the lineup. Miller has since been playing well above his level. Cory Emmerton is playing solid hockey and has been all year; Eaves isn't a center so moving out Emmerton for Eaves means either no real center on the fourth line, no fourth line, or Abdelkader on the fourth line. Babcock wants none of those options.


Best thing Eaves can do to get in the lineup and stay there? Learn to play center, and become a good faceoff man. He's got a good shot, good skating, good defense... it's not like he's a bad player. He's just on the wrong side of a close competition. If Emmerton and/or Miller start to play poorly every game, look for more Patty Eaves. Of course, he also has to contend with the mess that is Fabian Brunnstrom. Plenty of talent locked up in there. Hopefully he'll suddenly put it all together and give the Wings another weapon. If not, he's going back to GR when Mursak is off IR.
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Posted 21 November 2011 - 09:19 PM

Eaves is a cancer? Come on man...


I'm pretty sure that statement was saying that he ISN'T a cancer.. :unsure:

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 09:40 PM

You are wrong.
If he was healthy, he would be playing more often.
This is not a surprise that he doesn't play every game, since he has never played a full season in the NHL.
He's a little guy, in a tough sport, he plays awesome for his size but that also must wear on him.
The bottom line is, you don't sign someone for 3 years if that player is cancer.

To the serious comment:
I felt it necessary to answer the question, since 3 people including yourself bothered to respond and only one response was on topic.



He's been a "Healthy Scratch" A LOT over the last 2 seasons. There's got to be something more to him not getting the playing time that other guys get. His approach to the game must be inconsistent to the approach of other Red Wings that work their ass off (Lidstrom, Helm, Datsyuk, etc.). I was just wondering if anyone knew the scoop.

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 10:15 PM

He's been a "Healthy Scratch" A LOT over the last 2 seasons. There's got to be something more to him not getting the playing time that other guys get. His approach to the game must be inconsistent to the approach of other Red Wings that work their ass off (Lidstrom, Helm, Datsyuk, etc.). I was just wondering if anyone knew the scoop.

The only "something more" is that he isn't as good as most of our forwards. Emmerton is a center, Miller's playing great, Bruno has to play some time... Everyone else is better, or at least offers more potential even if they haven't been great so far. Same goes for previous years, most of our forwards have been better leaving Eaves to rotate in and out when we're healthy.

We have to scratch two forwards every game right now. Patty just needs to make the most of his opportunities or wait for injuries or someone like Miller or Emmy to start playing poorly.

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 10:29 PM

I remember in the preseason, Babcock put Eaves with Datsyuk to see if he was a top 6 option, it didn't work out...

I guess Emmerton and Miller are more valuable on the 4th line than Eaves is.

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 11:07 PM

I'm pretty sure that statement was saying that he ISN'T a cancer.. :unsure:

If so I misunderstood and I apologize.

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 11:25 PM

He's definitely not a locker room problem.

Unless all the other players are mad at him for beating them in ping-pong.

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 11:48 PM

He's definitely not a locker room problem.

Unless all the other players are mad at him for beating them in ping-pong.

Yeah he seems like he gets along with everyone, from what I've seen anyway.
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Posted 22 November 2011 - 06:21 AM

Obviously, there's the rotation to consider but apart from that I'd put my money on a nagging injury. A healthy Eaves has more to offer to the team than Drew Miller.

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Posted 22 November 2011 - 07:36 AM

It's weird because in pre-season Babcock was saying how Eaves is a great locker room guy, a leader in the gym ect. And now he's struggling to even get in the line-up.

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