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11/25 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Bruins 2 (SO)


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#421 MacAttack25

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 04:06 PM

Bert is looking a lot better these past few games than he did before his injury. Nice move in the shootout and a nice assist on Pav's goal. He's had some good chances lately, just a matter of time before a few go in for him :thumbup:

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 04:07 PM

Actually, the commentators were blowing Lidstrom all game long, like they usually do.

And people here always complain about too much Crosby love during his games. We have our own media loved players too. You could throw Datsyuk in there as well.

That was Doc and McGuire. Maybe Olczyk a little bit. But he kept pointing out penalties on the Wings that should've been called. Like when Abby (I think it was) knocked a Bruiin down and Eddie said it was interference.

Except the Boston player had the puck.


I like Doc and can tolerate McGuire. But Olczyk really does seem not to be able to set aside his bias against Detroit.

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 04:11 PM

I think Cleary is finally getting over the upper body injury he had at the start of the season. He looked better today imho as well. Homer has a huge pair. When he retires, transplanting them on Franzen would yield amazing results.

Z had a great play to set up Fil but that giveaway for the 2nd Boston goal was the worst play I can recall him making in ages. Still there were other sweet plays he made like the Bert chance. I wonder if he isn't 100% healthy. Or maybe it's a Samson effect since he isn't rocking the full beard ATM.
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Posted 25 November 2011 - 04:11 PM

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 04:12 PM

Howard won this game for us.

We gave up over 40 shots and our soft Euros got handled by Boston's forwards all game long. We can't beat a team like them or San Jose over a 7 game series because of our lack of physicality and ability to handle the forecheck consistently. The turnovers were rampant today.


Handled?

The Datsyuk line was dominant tonight. Zetterberg had a terrible game, though.

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 04:15 PM

Only one of his hands works at full speed.

I laughed at a guest because I read this. You win the awesome award.

Howard won this game for us.

We gave up over 40 shots and our soft Euros got handled by Boston's forwards all game long. We can't beat a team like them or San Jose over a 7 game series because of our lack of physicality and ability to handle the forecheck consistently. The turnovers were rampant today.

We got so manhandled that we won. ***** ***** *****.
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Posted 25 November 2011 - 04:16 PM

Great game. I don't get why people need to ***** about it. These are two extremely talented teams. Boston knows that we struggle from an aggressive forecheck and thats what created their goals. When we were able to move up the ice and keep possession we were dominating in their end. We aren't going to manhandle every team. This game kept me interested the whole time and that's why I watch hockey. :thumbup:

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 04:16 PM

My holiday isn't ruined now.


Yes, this made dealing with extended family driving me crazy for two days worthwhile. Thank god for beer and hockey in my man cave.

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 04:27 PM

This was absolutely a great game to watch. The league couldn't have asked for more for a showcase game like this. Hopefully the ratings were through the roof.

I think people complain when the Wings don't steamroll opponents because they've been so good for so long. They won ugly today. I think that this shows that Jimmy is capable of stealing a game when they get outplayed. This is a good thing.

It is a combination of arrogant and naive to expect the boys to outplay opponents every single game of the season. While I root for it, as fans we need to be realistic. Plus, there is another team on the ice that is attempting to impose their will each night. The Bruins were the hottest team in the league as well as defending Stanley Cup Champs. I don't think ANYONE should have expected them to not come out hard.
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Posted 25 November 2011 - 04:33 PM

Handled?

The Datsyuk line was dominant tonight. Zetterberg had a terrible game, though.


Did you watch the game?

Our defense had trouble getting the puck out of the zone and turned the puck over constantly. We gave up around 45 shots. That's hardly winning hockey. A team as big as Boston or San Jose can do this to us at will.

Howard stood on his head. That's why we won.

I laughed at a guest because I read this. You win the awesome award.


We got so manhandled that we won. ***** ***** *****.


God, you guys are such blind homers. We won because Howard was awesome. Giving up 43 shots is not winning hockey in general.

That's why we can't beat San Jose in a playoff series. We struggle against big, forechecking teams. What is not true about that?

This board can bef****** amazing sometimes.

Edited by GMRwings1983, 25 November 2011 - 04:34 PM.

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 04:38 PM

Did you watch the game?

Our defense had trouble getting the puck out of the zone and turned the puck over constantly. We gave up around 45 shots. That's hardly winning hockey. A team as big as Boston or San Jose can do this to us at will.

Howard stood on his head. That's why we won.


For starters, Boston was playing catchup the whole game. Teams that play catchup normally get more chances, and when you have a strong aggressive forecheck like Boston you are going to make things happen more often.

Second, if not for an unforced turnover by Howard, we probably aren't having this conversation.

Third, are you saying the Datsyuk like wasn't dominant today?

Also, the San Jose line is pretty rich since we took them to 7 games last year. And the team still has cap space and time to improve and add another player. Woe is this team.

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 04:39 PM

I think people complain when the Wings don't steamroll opponents because they've been so good for so long. They won ugly today. I think that this shows that Jimmy is capable of stealing a game when they get outplayed. This is a good thing.

personally, I don't complain. I just point out that Wings weren't the better team today and that they are in dire need to curb on the mistakes and turnovers.


and in any case, am glad that Wings stayed competitive against a team of this caliber. those Bruins are good, and being big and physical are also tough
to play against for Wings. nevertheless, we managed to have the lead in the game and then escape with 2 points. that's nice. but looking at the comparison
between those two teams, with some of Wings players being so far from their top game, we'd get killed in 5 playoff games by those Bruins...

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 04:45 PM

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Does that look good or what ? Chicago is also losing to Anaheim right now (the 2nd worst team in the West).

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 04:47 PM

Great win! Was out all morning and came home to find out game already finished but a terrific W, stopped the Bruins winning streak!

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 05:00 PM

Did you watch the game?

Our defense had trouble getting the puck out of the zone and turned the puck over constantly. We gave up around 45 shots. That's hardly winning hockey. A team as big as Boston or San Jose can do this to us at will.

Howard stood on his head. That's why we won.



God, you guys are such blind homers. We won because Howard was awesome. Giving up 43 shots is not winning hockey in general.

That's why we can't beat San Jose in a playoff series. We struggle against big, forechecking teams. What is not true about that?

This board can bef****** amazing sometimes.

We definitely won because Howard was awesome. He screwed up on the first goal, but other than that he stole the Wings this game.

And it's not a coincidence the Wings were making all the turnovers, Zetterberg's aside, a lot of them were due to forecheck pressure and pulling up short to avoid getting hit instead of completing the pass. When the Bruins stepped up the forecheck and the physical play in the third, they had the Wings on their heels the whole time. As much grief as they get here, the great thing about guys like Homer and Cleary is they don't shrink when the physical play increases. The Wings were turning the puck over and losing puck battles because they were getting out muscled and out hit.

Obviously I'm happy the Wings won and will gladly take the two points, but I agree, the Wings do have a hard time with big forechecking teams. They used to have the skill to work around that kind of forecheck, but I think now the skill level has dropped enough that they struggle with it.

It doesn't really matter for a non-conference game against Boston, but like you point out, this is really about the Sharks.

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 05:00 PM

Oh my the wings got so physically dominated, you can't deny they were very lucky to come out with the W

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 05:03 PM

For starters, Boston was playing catchup the whole game. Teams that play catchup normally get more chances, and when you have a strong aggressive forecheck like Boston you are going to make things happen more often.

Second, if not for an unforced turnover by Howard, we probably aren't having this conversation.

Third, are you saying the Datsyuk like wasn't dominant today?

Also, the San Jose line is pretty rich since we took them to 7 games last year. And the team still has cap space and time to improve and add another player. Woe is this team.


My point was about our defense, which I don't think played great. Don't know how anyone can say otherwise.

Datsyuk was awesome, but he's not what I was criticizing. In fact, he "was" his line. I was talking more about the defense.

Howard's turnover was in part because we had trouble handling the forecheck. Same with Zetterberg's gaffe.

The part about teams catching up getting more chances doesn't hold water. Neither team was ever up by more than a goal. If anything, our defense should have tightened up and not give up a shooting gallery. And you're right about Boston's aggressive forecheck usually getting lots of chances. That's the whole point I was making. We don't handle that kind team well.

Lastly, San Jose beat us two years in a row. People have a hard time grasping that. So we took them to 7 games the second time around. Big deal. We still lost.

Edited by GMRwings1983, 25 November 2011 - 05:08 PM.

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 05:04 PM

a bit lucky,but great win.To outwork and out-muscle the B's we should change a half of roster so relax people.
Of course I was pissed about giveaways,but when saw Lids and Dats can't handle the puck couple of times I realized the part of the blame is on ice condition as well.

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 05:05 PM

Oh my the wings got so physically dominated, you can't deny they were very lucky to come out with the W


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Posted 25 November 2011 - 05:10 PM

My point was about our defense, which I don't think played great. Don't know how anyone can say otherwise.

Datsyuk was awesome, but he's not what I was criticizing. In fact, he "was" his line. I was talking more about the defense.

Howard's turnover was in part because we had trouble handling the forecheck. Same with Zetterberg's gaffe.

Zetterberg's gaffe was a part of the forecheck. Howard wasn't paying attention and just gave it away.

The part about teams catching up getting more chances doesn't hold water. Neither team was ever up by more than a goal. If anything, our defense should have tightened up and not give up a shooting gallery. And you're right about Boston's aggressive forecheck usually getting lost of chances. That's the whole point I was making. We don't handle that kind team well.

The stat holds water considering the top teams in the league are also tops in shot differential at even strength and when the game is tied.

Lastly, San Jose beat us two years in a row. People have a hard time grasping that. So we took them to 7 games the second time around. Big deal. We still lost.

Detroit improved against San Jose last year and almost came out with a series win.

Hell, Phoenix doesn't cry gloom and doom as much as people on here and they went from going 7 games to a 4 game sweep against the Red Wings.

The team isn't a Stanley Cup contender right now, sure. But the team is back where they should be in the standings and have the potential to improve. And they beat a strong talented Boston team with a solid win from our goaltender. That should be cause for celebration, not worry.

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