stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted December 5, 2011 I don't like the title either... I actually thought something had happened to Fistric from first glance... Beauty of a hit and clean, keep those heads up! This is a perfect example of hitting hard, while still staying clean, he clearly targeted the shoulder and kept the elbows in... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted December 5, 2011 In an effort to remove all hitting from the game, Fistric is expected to have a disciplinary hearing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted December 5, 2011 TSN. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rrasco 1,312 Report post Posted December 5, 2011 That's ******* stupid, if they suspend him I'm going to be pissed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lonewuhf 47 Report post Posted December 5, 2011 in what way is it incorrect? Also with the way this year has been going with all of the player deaths, this is in incredibly bad taste. 1 Ram reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted December 5, 2011 There was no death. ever heard of a thing called hyperbole/exaggeration? Or are you that uninformed. Also with the way this year has been going with all of the player deaths, this is in incredibly bad taste. HAHAHA call the PC Police. I don't like the title either... I actually thought something had happened to Fistric from first glance... Beauty of a hit and clean, keep those heads up! This is a perfect example of hitting hard, while still staying clean, he clearly targeted the shoulder and kept the elbows in... if someone would have died form a hit you would have heard about it instantly 1 LeftWinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted December 5, 2011 if someone would have died form a hit you would have heard about it instantly That isn't what I meant, I interpreted it to mean something horrible had happened to Fistric (off the ice) and the hockey world lost ANOTHER member and this thread was one to "check in" about it, to see if anyone had info... It's just misleading is all... Back to the topic at hand, if he gets suspended for this, it's setting a poor precedent, because up until now, I think Shanny has done a fantastic job of getting it right... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HOCKEY MATTERS 167 Report post Posted December 6, 2011 Well, somebody got the attention they were looking for. Title is misleading by design. So what. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted December 6, 2011 (edited) Well, somebody got the attention they were looking for. Title is misleading by design. So what. I'm not searching for attention. you really don't get it to you, deathcheck is a term used to describe a big hit, did it just fly over your head? That isn't what I meant, I interpreted it to mean something horrible had happened to Fistric (off the ice) and the hockey world lost ANOTHER member and this thread was one to "check in" about it, to see if anyone had info... It's just misleading is all... Back to the topic at hand, if he gets suspended for this, it's setting a poor precedent, because up until now, I think Shanny has done a fantastic job of getting it right... a check is a play in hockey that involves one player hitting another, but I understand how you read it, but still... Edited December 6, 2011 by jollymania 2 ComradeWasabi and LeftWinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lonewuhf 47 Report post Posted December 6, 2011 HAHAHA call the PC Police. Grow up and have some respect, if not for the players at least for the rest of the fans that support the same team you do. 1 up2here reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted December 6, 2011 (edited) a check is a play in hockey that involves one player hitting another, but I understand how you read it, but still... Really... you're gonna go that route, really? Don't be snide and condescending with me, you make yourself look like a jackass... Edited December 6, 2011 by stevkrause 2 Rebound and up2here reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
up2here 41 Report post Posted December 6, 2011 ever heard of a thing called hyperbole/exaggeration? Or are you that uninformed. Grow up. You asked why the title was incorrect and I gave you an example. When I read the title I thought someone had died. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted December 6, 2011 I heard Mark Fistric died, and this is the thread to check in on updates. My condolences to his family and friends. 4 Bramsy, Zeowingsfan, sleepwalker and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krayzie_Bone 58 Report post Posted December 6, 2011 Not a good title 1 Zeowingsfan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CopenhagenWing 38 Report post Posted December 6, 2011 Discuss the topic, not the title of it. 1 Bramsy reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Holmstrom96 347 Report post Posted December 6, 2011 ever heard of a thing called hyperbole/exaggeration? Or are you that uninformed. I wasn't the only one that was confused, I thought someone actually died until I saw the hit and noticed the lack of death. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rrasco 1,312 Report post Posted December 6, 2011 To be fair, the title was hard to interpret. Honestly, it threw me for a loop initially. Either way, I don't care, and it's been changed, so it's a moot point. On that note, wasn't his hearing today at like 2 or 3? I can't find any updates regarding what happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,934 Report post Posted December 6, 2011 (edited) Although I had no issue with the title, you have to remember, we live a world of not just PC, but God forbid you offend anyone at anytime. Even my innocent use of the name God just offended someone, somewhere. We live in a world today where these type of people just turned Cookie Monster into Vegetable Monster, they want Bert and Ernie to declare themselves ***, the call a manhole and personhole and they also convinced courts that McDonalds is the reason for most obesity, never-mind the fact that these obese people eat McDonalds 4-5 times a week and don't move out of their seat except to get another Bon-Bon. McDonalds doesn't make people obese, the people do that themselves. Now, my kids, who happen to be nowhere near obese, who happen to love McDonalds fries, have to get LESS fries in their Happy Meal because these people pressured McD's into putting a smaller fry box in the meal and automatically giving them apples. My kids don't like apples, why force them on us? Now, instead of getting what they want, they get less of what they like and the apples go in the trash. I wish these people would just keep their business to themselves and leave my life alone...if I want apples, I will ask for apples! ..sorry, anyhow, the fact that this hit is even going to a phone hearing is about as dumb as calling someone a chairperson rather than a chairman. The small tidbit that TSN wrote says he appears to leave his feet and hit him in the head? UH.....ok are the people making these rules the same people who said the reason Pronger's hit on Holmstrom in 2007 was not illegal, but because of simple physics? Well using simple physics, that is the reason he appeared to leave his feet, from the force of the hit, he did NOT leap up into him. The NHL got it wrong from the start and they need to admit it. If the play was so fast and "looked" like he hit him in the head, stop, review the replay and penalize from there if it's warranted. Every re-play I have seen, this hit isn't a penalty by any aspect of the word penalty. I wouldn't say it was a deathhit, but he sure did kill him with it! Edited December 6, 2011 by LeftWinger 4 ComradeWasabi, sleepwalker and SiLkK19 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted December 7, 2011 Although I had no issue with the title, you have to remember, we live a world of not just PC, but God forbid you offend anyone at anytime. Even my innocent use of the name God just offended someone, somewhere. We live in a world today where these type of people just turned Cookie Monster into Vegetable Monster, they want Bert and Ernie to declare themselves ***, the call a manhole and personhole and they also convinced courts that McDonalds is the reason for most obesity, never-mind the fact that these obese people eat McDonalds 4-5 times a week and don't move out of their seat except to get another Bon-Bon. McDonalds doesn't make people obese, the people do that themselves. Now, my kids, who happen to be nowhere near obese, who happen to love McDonalds fries, have to get LESS fries in their Happy Meal because these people pressured McD's into putting a smaller fry box in the meal and automatically giving them apples. My kids don't like apples, why force them on us? Now, instead of getting what they want, they get less of what they like and the apples go in the trash. I wish these people would just keep their business to themselves and leave my life alone...if I want apples, I will ask for apples! ..sorry, anyhow, the fact that this hit is even going to a phone hearing is about as dumb as calling someone a chairperson rather than a chairman. The small tidbit that TSN wrote says he appears to leave his feet and hit him in the head? UH.....ok are the people making these rules the same people who said the reason Pronger's hit on Holmstrom in 2007 was not illegal, but because of simple physics? Well using simple physics, that is the reason he appeared to leave his feet, from the force of the hit, he did NOT leap up into him. The NHL got it wrong from the start and they need to admit it. If the play was so fast and "looked" like he hit him in the head, stop, review the replay and penalize from there if it's warranted. Every re-play I have seen, this hit isn't a penalty by any aspect of the word penalty. I wouldn't say it was a deathhit, but he sure did kill him with it! very nice post Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
syntax 359 Report post Posted December 7, 2011 3 games: Link Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted December 7, 2011 (edited) I'm definitely surprised. As I said earlier in the thread, hitting over the years has evolved to allow this kind of leaping into hits. I'm not worried so much about not being able to hit anymore. Like I also mentioned, Stevens (and many others) used to crush people without the Kronwall style leaping up into hits. It's not surprising as this kind of exploding up directs the blow towards the upperbody and head, but I think it's going to be a painful adjustment period as players learn to hit the old school way. Edited December 7, 2011 by haroldsnepsts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P. Marlowe 748 Report post Posted December 7, 2011 NHL.com - Shanahan's video explanation Now, my kids, who happen to be nowhere near obese, who happen to love McDonalds fries, have to get LESS fries in their Happy Meal because these people pressured McD's into putting a smaller fry box in the meal and automatically giving them apples. Waitwhat? You're an adult? Whoops. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted December 7, 2011 If this is the only way that Niederreiter can get his noticed, that's fine by me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmamolo 287 Report post Posted December 7, 2011 Back to the topic at hand, if he gets suspended for this, it's setting a poor precedent, because up until now, I think Shanny has done a fantastic job of getting it right... Personally, i don't think Shanahan is doing that great of a job. I understand that teams were a little put off with the severity of his pre-seaon punishments so he's potentially changed his M.O and that can give off the air of inconsistency but lately I don't understand. I understand his explanations but I dont understand how he can see what Lucic did to Miller as being ok and what Tootoo did to Miller as not being ok. To me, Fristric's hit was absolutely, 100% clean. I don't think he left his feet during the hit (he exploded up after the hit), to me the principle point of contact wasn't the head, and I don't think he targeted the head. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,934 Report post Posted December 7, 2011 NHL.com - Shanahan's video explanation Waitwhat? You're an adult? Whoops. Har Har Hardy Har....I do believe you are referring to the 2008 Leftwinger... NHL totally wrong on this suspension. This will no doubt be the first step to taking the hit out of the league... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
