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#41 Holmstrom96

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 04:38 PM

ever heard of a thing called hyperbole/exaggeration? Or are you that uninformed.


I wasn't the only one that was confused, I thought someone actually died until I saw the hit and noticed the lack of death.

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 05:32 PM

To be fair, the title was hard to interpret. Honestly, it threw me for a loop initially. Either way, I don't care, and it's been changed, so it's a moot point.

On that note, wasn't his hearing today at like 2 or 3? I can't find any updates regarding what happened.

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 06:56 PM

Although I had no issue with the title, you have to remember, we live a world of not just PC, but God forbid you offend anyone at anytime. Even my innocent use of the name God just offended someone, somewhere. We live in a world today where these type of people just turned Cookie Monster into Vegetable Monster, they want Bert and Ernie to declare themselves ***, the call a manhole and personhole and they also convinced courts that McDonalds is the reason for most obesity, never-mind the fact that these obese people eat McDonalds 4-5 times a week and don't move out of their seat except to get another Bon-Bon. McDonalds doesn't make people obese, the people do that themselves. Now, my kids, who happen to be nowhere near obese, who happen to love McDonalds fries, have to get LESS fries in their Happy Meal because these people pressured McD's into putting a smaller fry box in the meal and automatically giving them apples. My kids don't like apples, why force them on us? Now, instead of getting what they want, they get less of what they like and the apples go in the trash. I wish these people would just keep their business to themselves and leave my life alone...if I want apples, I will ask for apples!

..sorry, anyhow, the fact that this hit is even going to a phone hearing is about as dumb as calling someone a chairperson rather than a chairman. The small tidbit that TSN wrote says he appears to leave his feet and hit him in the head? UH.....ok are the people making these rules the same people who said the reason Pronger's hit on Holmstrom in 2007 was not illegal, but because of simple physics? Well using simple physics, that is the reason he appeared to leave his feet, from the force of the hit, he did NOT leap up into him. The NHL got it wrong from the start and they need to admit it. If the play was so fast and "looked" like he hit him in the head, stop, review the replay and penalize from there if it's warranted. Every re-play I have seen, this hit isn't a penalty by any aspect of the word penalty.

I wouldn't say it was a deathhit, but he sure did kill him with it! :lol:

Edited by LeftWinger, 06 December 2011 - 06:59 PM.

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 07:54 PM

Although I had no issue with the title, you have to remember, we live a world of not just PC, but God forbid you offend anyone at anytime. Even my innocent use of the name God just offended someone, somewhere. We live in a world today where these type of people just turned Cookie Monster into Vegetable Monster, they want Bert and Ernie to declare themselves ***, the call a manhole and personhole and they also convinced courts that McDonalds is the reason for most obesity, never-mind the fact that these obese people eat McDonalds 4-5 times a week and don't move out of their seat except to get another Bon-Bon. McDonalds doesn't make people obese, the people do that themselves. Now, my kids, who happen to be nowhere near obese, who happen to love McDonalds fries, have to get LESS fries in their Happy Meal because these people pressured McD's into putting a smaller fry box in the meal and automatically giving them apples. My kids don't like apples, why force them on us? Now, instead of getting what they want, they get less of what they like and the apples go in the trash. I wish these people would just keep their business to themselves and leave my life alone...if I want apples, I will ask for apples!

..sorry, anyhow, the fact that this hit is even going to a phone hearing is about as dumb as calling someone a chairperson rather than a chairman. The small tidbit that TSN wrote says he appears to leave his feet and hit him in the head? UH.....ok are the people making these rules the same people who said the reason Pronger's hit on Holmstrom in 2007 was not illegal, but because of simple physics? Well using simple physics, that is the reason he appeared to leave his feet, from the force of the hit, he did NOT leap up into him. The NHL got it wrong from the start and they need to admit it. If the play was so fast and "looked" like he hit him in the head, stop, review the replay and penalize from there if it's warranted. Every re-play I have seen, this hit isn't a penalty by any aspect of the word penalty.

I wouldn't say it was a deathhit, but he sure did kill him with it! :lol:

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 03:30 PM

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 03:45 PM

I'm definitely surprised. As I said earlier in the thread, hitting over the years has evolved to allow this kind of leaping into hits. I'm not worried so much about not being able to hit anymore. Like I also mentioned, Stevens (and many others) used to crush people without the Kronwall style leaping up into hits.

It's not surprising as this kind of exploding up directs the blow towards the upperbody and head, but I think it's going to be a painful adjustment period as players learn to hit the old school way.

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 03:51 PM

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Now, my kids, who happen to be nowhere near obese, who happen to love McDonalds fries, have to get LESS fries in their Happy Meal because these people pressured McD's into putting a smaller fry box in the meal and automatically giving them apples.


Waitwhat? You're an adult? Whoops.

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 03:51 PM

If this is the only way that Niederreiter can get his noticed, that's fine by me.

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 03:57 PM

Back to the topic at hand, if he gets suspended for this, it's setting a poor precedent, because up until now, I think Shanny has done a fantastic job of getting it right...

Personally, i don't think Shanahan is doing that great of a job. I understand that teams were a little put off with the severity of his pre-seaon punishments so he's potentially changed his M.O and that can give off the air of inconsistency but lately I don't understand.

I understand his explanations but I dont understand how he can see what Lucic did to Miller as being ok and what Tootoo did to Miller as not being ok. To me, Fristric's hit was absolutely, 100% clean. I don't think he left his feet during the hit (he exploded up after the hit), to me the principle point of contact wasn't the head, and I don't think he targeted the head.
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Posted 07 December 2011 - 04:03 PM

NHL.com - Shanahan's video explanation







Waitwhat? You're an adult? Whoops.

Har Har Hardy Har....I do believe you are referring to the 2008 Leftwinger...


NHL totally wrong on this suspension. This will no doubt be the first step to taking the hit out of the league...

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 04:18 PM

This is the type of ruling that will eventually outlaw this type of hit out of the league. I'm not saying the ruling is right or wrong, but the nature of the hit is what is going to cause more suspensions and more problems with this type of hit going forward.

Edited by WingZNut13, 07 December 2011 - 04:21 PM.

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 04:56 PM

I think it's less trying to take the hitting out of the league, and more taking the "no respect for your fellow players" hits out of the league. This is not one of those, unfortunately, and in this case, I think the league got it wrong. They're human, after all, so they're going to make mistakes, but this is just an example of a clean hit being misjudged.

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 05:35 PM

I think it's less trying to take the hitting out of the league, and more taking the "no respect for your fellow players" hits out of the league. This is not one of those, unfortunately, and in this case, I think the league got it wrong. They're human, after all, so they're going to make mistakes, but this is just an example of a clean hit being misjudged.

so the hit in your avatar shoudl have had kronner banned for life?

This is the type of ruling that will eventually outlaw this type of hit out of the league. I'm not saying the ruling is right or wrong, but the nature of the hit is what is going to cause more suspensions and more problems with this type of hit going forward.

just looking at your avatar reminds me, helm is gonna have to watch it. It isn't gonna be good.
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Posted 07 December 2011 - 07:41 PM

Good one Shanny. You'll always be one of my favorite players, but you are officially worse at this job then Colin Campbell was. Take your "Shanabans" and shove them up your ass before you ruin hockey thanks :thumbup:

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 11:51 PM

just looking at your avatar reminds me, helm is gonna have to watch it. It isn't gonna be good.


I just don't see little Helmer having problems with the rule. However, he might have seen a few games for the hit in my avatar but it's Helmer. I hadn't gotten that excited in a long time when he nailed that guy from Phenoix.
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Posted 08 December 2011 - 12:56 AM

I just don't see little Helmer having problems with the rule. However, he might have seen a few games for the hit in my avatar but it's Helmer. I hadn't gotten that excited in a long time when he nailed that guy from Phenoix.

exactly, these hits are fun to watch but the nhl is getting increasingly stringent with it and it is increasing at a far rapid pace than it ever did.
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Posted 08 December 2011 - 02:56 AM

Although I had no issue with the title, you have to remember, we live a world of not just PC, but God forbid you offend anyone at anytime. Even my innocent use of the name God just offended someone, somewhere. We live in a world today where these type of people just turned Cookie Monster into Vegetable Monster, they want Bert and Ernie to declare themselves ***, the call a manhole and personhole and they also convinced courts that McDonalds is the reason for most obesity, never-mind the fact that these obese people eat McDonalds 4-5 times a week and don't move out of their seat except to get another Bon-Bon. McDonalds doesn't make people obese, the people do that themselves. Now, my kids, who happen to be nowhere near obese, who happen to love McDonalds fries, have to get LESS fries in their Happy Meal because these people pressured McD's into putting a smaller fry box in the meal and automatically giving them apples. My kids don't like apples, why force them on us? Now, instead of getting what they want, they get less of what they like and the apples go in the trash. I wish these people would just keep their business to themselves and leave my life alone...if I want apples, I will ask for apples!

..sorry, anyhow, the fact that this hit is even going to a phone hearing is about as dumb as calling someone a chairperson rather than a chairman. The small tidbit that TSN wrote says he appears to leave his feet and hit him in the head? UH.....ok are the people making these rules the same people who said the reason Pronger's hit on Holmstrom in 2007 was not illegal, but because of simple physics? Well using simple physics, that is the reason he appeared to leave his feet, from the force of the hit, he did NOT leap up into him. The NHL got it wrong from the start and they need to admit it. If the play was so fast and "looked" like he hit him in the head, stop, review the replay and penalize from there if it's warranted. Every re-play I have seen, this hit isn't a penalty by any aspect of the word penalty.

I wouldn't say it was a deathhit, but he sure did kill him with it! :lol:


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In my eyes, that was a clean hit.

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 03:18 AM

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 08:37 AM

I'm too lost in the decisions of Shanny. yep, I understand this is about changing the culture of headshots etc.
but man... Lucic skates away with nothing, Tootoo gets 2, Fistric 3... I hope the players get whatever message
is Shanny trying to convey. I for one can't say, that I really get it.

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 01:58 PM

I'm too lost in the decisions of Shanny. yep, I understand this is about changing the culture of headshots etc.
but man... Lucic skates away with nothing, Tootoo gets 2, Fistric 3... I hope the players get whatever message
is Shanny trying to convey. I for one can't say, that I really get it.

I'm ok with the Tootoo ruling (even though I thought that one only deserved a game) but the Fistric ruling is horrible... he did not leave his feet - his momentum projected him upwards AFTER the hit... disappointed in Shanny on this one...

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