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#21 chrisdetroit

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 09:56 PM

It's not as good as just moving the Wings to the East but it is MUCH better than what we have now. Only 1 trip to Western Canada and 1 to the California. And in the playoffs we play the first 2 rounds in our time zone or the Central time zone. No flights to California in the first two rounds.

We also see Montreal, Toronto and Boston for a home and home every year. I would prefer to play them more but as I said, it's a big improvement over what we have now.
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Posted 05 December 2011 - 09:56 PM

Such a FAIL!

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 09:58 PM

I love the 4 division/conference thing, but the Wings not being in the East is bulls***. I guess they want a big name team in the West. Lame. Let some other teams shine in the West.

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 10:01 PM

I'm really curious to see what happens with the Prince of Wales and Clarence Campbell Trophies. Scarp them or add 2 more trophies?

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 10:04 PM

I just don't get in what world having two seven-team conferences and two eight-team conferences and taking four teams to the playoffs from each one is fair. Then again I guess money overrides such concerns. It's just hilarious when both 7-team conferences are eastern despite there being more teams in the eastern timezones...

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 10:06 PM

What are you guys whining about? We'll dominate that division. Chicago is the only other powerhouse in our division.

We'll have to play them in the playoffs perenially. It'll heat the rivalry up even more.

It's not as good as just moving the Wings to the East but it is MUCH better than what we have now. Only 1 trip to Western Canada and 1 to the California. And in the playoffs we play the first 2 rounds in our time zone or the Central time zone. No flights to California in the first two rounds.

We also see Montreal, Toronto and Boston for a home and home every year. I would prefer to play them more but as I said, it's a big improvement over what we have now.


I agree. People are forgetting the bolded part as well. It's a good deal.
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Posted 05 December 2011 - 10:06 PM

isn't this better than the current format???

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 10:07 PM

I just don't get in what world having two seven-team conferences and two eight-team conferences and taking four teams to the playoffs from each one is fair. Then again I guess money overrides such concerns. It's just hilarious when both 7-team conferences are eastern despite there being more teams in the eastern timezones...


That's why all those Eastern teams voted for it.
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Posted 05 December 2011 - 10:07 PM

I must be on something, but I love this change. The return of INTENSE rivalries and divisional hatred will be astounding given the amount of times you'll see the same teams during the regular season and in the first and second round. Plus, the chance to play teams like the Canucks and Sharks in the Stanley Cup finals. Finally, the improved travel schedule should provide the wings the extra juice they need when making a deep run in the playoffs. Bravo Bettman, one of the few good things you've done.

And LMAO at the Wings being one of the teams that voted against this, they basically got exactly what they were looking for, a dramatically improved travel schedule.

Neg away...

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 10:09 PM

How exactly did the Wings get f***ed with the realignment?

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 10:09 PM

What are you guys whining about? We'll dominate that division. Chicago is the only other powerhouse in our division.

We'll have to play them in the playoffs perenially. It'll heat the rivalry up even more.



I agree. People are forgetting the bolded part as well. It's a good deal.


I think the problem most of us have is that this was a cop-out answer for the NHL. They simply split the conferences.....

If things were like they should be (i.e. a Columbus franchise didn't exist), we would be in the East. Pure and simple.

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 10:10 PM

What Bettman wants Bettman gets. We all should have seen this coming.

I guess nothing really changes for Detroit except that the first two rounds will likely be boring as all get out from here on out. I really wanted to move East, but I guess it's hard to argue that when Columbus is farther east than us.

Too bad, as the Western Conference Finals are usually better than the Cup Finals. Would have liked to play a Western team for the Cup.

EDIT: And copping out is what is done nowadays, not just with the NHL. With politics, business, everything. The option that requires more thinking or work, no matter how much better it is, will never be adopted.

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 10:11 PM

What Bettman wants Bettman gets. We all should have seen this coming.

I guess nothing really changes for Detroit except that the first two rounds will likely be boring as all get out from here on out. I really wanted to move East, but I guess it's hard to argue that when Columbus is farther east than us.

Too bad, as the Western Conference Finals are usually better than the Cup Finals. Would have liked to play a Western team for the Cup.


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Posted 05 December 2011 - 10:13 PM

I must be on something, but I love this change. The return of INTENSE rivalries and divisional hatred will be astounding given the amount of times you'll see the same teams during the regular season and in the first and second round. Plus, the chance to play teams like the Canucks and Sharks in the Stanley Cup finals. Finally, the improved travel schedule should provide the wings the extra juice they need when making a deep run in the playoffs. Bravo Bettman, one of the few good things you've done.

And LMAO at the Wings being one of the teams that voted against this, they basically got exactly what they were looking for, a dramatically improved travel schedule.

Neg away...


Yeah, it's exciting for the rest of the league, but Detroit gets stuck with the reject teams. That's why they voted against it. It's like a Harvard grad being forced to ride on the short bus.
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Posted 05 December 2011 - 10:13 PM

How exactly did the Wings get f***ed with the realignment?


They didn't.

If anyone got f***ed, it'd be Tampa and Florida, because of more travel.
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Posted 05 December 2011 - 10:14 PM

I think the problem most of us have is that this was a cop-out answer for the NHL. They simply split the conferences.....

If things were like they should be (i.e. a Columbus franchise didn't exist), we would be in the East. Pure and simple.


The cop out woulda been just to swap Detroit and Winnipeg. Drastically realigning the entire NHL was the hardest thing for them to do.
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Posted 05 December 2011 - 10:14 PM

Yeah, it's exciting for the rest of the league, but Detroit gets stuck with the reject teams. That's why they voted against it. It's like a Harvard grad being forced to ride on the short bus.


Would you rather have us in a division with the Hawks, Pens and Bruins or something?

And those reject teams are who we're playing against now.
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Posted 05 December 2011 - 10:14 PM

So does anyone know for a fact how the third round seeding will happen? If it's regular season points it'll mean we can play against for example SJ / Van in the Cup finals, which would be pretty nice. If it's west vs. west and east vs. east I'll be a lot less excited.

But yeah I guess I have to agree this is a good change overall for us, with my timezone I welcome any change that means less late games.

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 10:18 PM

What are you guys whining about? We'll dominate that division. Chicago is the only other powerhouse in our division.

We'll have to play them in the playoffs perenially. It'll heat the rivalry up even more.



I agree. People are forgetting the bolded part as well. It's a good deal.


It's better than now, but I wouldn't call it good. The Wings could easily play those Eastern teams six times instead of two. It seems like the East got catered to because they made the concession of having to actually travel at all in this new format.
 
 
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Posted 05 December 2011 - 10:19 PM

The cop out woulda been just to swap Detroit and Winnipeg. Drastically realigning the entire NHL was the hardest thing for them to do.

If it was so difficult, how come it only took an hour to pass?

Also wondering who the 4 teams out of the 30 who opposed the realignment?

I'm gonna come out and say it that I am young and don't have recollection of the different playoff system, only have read about it. Just appears to be many pros and cons. Like most, resistant to change, but going to wait a few years (and savor this year's playoffs) before I knock it. However, the idea of a Red Wings - Avalanche or Lightning - Hurricanes Cup Final just doesn't sound right to me.

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