Seriously, I know he is a good player, but the efforts to make him the best and the face of the NHL has made me dislike the kid. There are other young players who work hard and are great fun to watch - we have a few - who will not get the media hype, but who are still also good for the game. Hard work and heart - to me, that's what the game is all about.
I hate for any player to go out like this, but his time might be over. Seems that he has a hard time coming back from the injury, much as he might want to.
I think we may have seen the last of him at least for the regular season.
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Posted 12 December 2011 - 10:21 PM
One thing is for sure, it's unlikely he'll ever be the same again.
I can't see him coming back and never having any setbacks when it comes to concussions and headaches. He couldn't even make it for a month after having a whole year off. And the hits he took weren't even that severe.
Many players have had their careers end early, but this could potentially be the worst such example. Maybe in any sport. We're talking about a guy who was on pace to finish his career as a top 10 all time player.
I can't see him coming back and never having any setbacks when it comes to concussions and headaches. He couldn't even make it for a month after having a whole year off. And the hits he took weren't even that severe.
Many players have had their careers end early, but this could potentially be the worst such example. Maybe in any sport. We're talking about a guy who was on pace to finish his career as a top 10 all time player.
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Posted 13 December 2011 - 01:07 AM
When bobby orr's career ended early, the NHL found a way to survive. I think we will be a okay. The only money the NHL is band wagon Pitt fans, and the money to reprint all the ad's with Crosby already all over them...
Does it suck to to lose a star player, yes. Will it hurt the NHL greatly, NO.
Does it suck to to lose a star player, yes. Will it hurt the NHL greatly, NO.
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Posted 13 December 2011 - 07:33 AM
Datsyuk is already the best all around player.
Crosby is the best player. Guy scores a point per game easily, even after being away from the game for a long time.
And I can't believe some fools on this board actually think this doesn't hurt the league. They televise countless Pens games and talk about Crosby all the time. Whether you like that or not, it's a fact. When he's not playing, it makes the league look worse.
To be fair, though, it is the league's own fault for putting all their eggs in one basket.
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Posted 13 December 2011 - 08:41 AM
Good riddance.
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Posted 13 December 2011 - 09:01 AM
I posted a little about this in the gdt, I just hope he plays in the next few games or his career as we knew it is going to change. That my friends is a very sad truth. Im pulling for the kid.
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Posted 13 December 2011 - 09:24 AM
Wow, over-dramatize much? The NHL has survived the retirement of Bobby Orr, Gordie Howe and Wayne Gretzky; what would make this worse?Yes let's wish that a player never plays again because the media promotes him after having one the best starts to a career in the history of the game.
Stay classy wing's fans.
This is awful news, he's such an important player for the league, it will not be the same without him. Such a shame.
Can't wait to read the "Phoenix: I still think it's a hockey market" chapter of Gary Bettman's autobiography. I'm guessing it's going to be chapter 11.
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Posted 13 December 2011 - 09:55 AM
Yes let's wish that a player never plays again because the media promotes him after having one the best starts to a career in the history of the game.
Stay classy wing's fans.
This is awful news, he's such an important player for the league, it will not be the same without him. Such a shame.
I don't understand this mentality. He's not any better for the game than Ovechkin or Stamkos or anyone else. Maybe because he sells more jerseys? As far as the actual game goes, he's not even the best player in the league (arguably), so his loss would suck for Pens fans but I think the league will do just fine.
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Posted 13 December 2011 - 10:18 AM
it is a cover up for his knee, they are just exploiting the people who are overly obsessed and caught p with the concussion issue. Which is sad.
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Posted 13 December 2011 - 10:59 AM
.it's pretty pathetic that some of you would wish to see one of the best point producers and most talented players in the nhl never step on the ice again just because you're still bitter about a SCF loss a few years ago.
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Posted 13 December 2011 - 11:07 AM
Don't get confused that easy, it is not a sport that refuses to market other stars, it is Gary's NHL.This is bad for the NHL.
He's their best player, whether you like it or not. That wouldn't be good for any sport, especially a sport that refuses to market other stars, besides Ovechkin.
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Posted 13 December 2011 - 11:08 AM
He's a rival and promoted above all and the hate is understandable on that level. To think it doesn't matter one way or the other for hockey is delusional and putting their hate above the good of the game.
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Posted 13 December 2011 - 11:15 AM
Please explain why the unfortunate possible retirement of HWSNBN is any more devastating to the league than that of excellent and almost universally beloved players? He's a very good player to be sure, but I fail to see how his loss will harm the league. If anything, it will help get headshots out of the game, so his loss would actually be for the greater good while the NHL continues to grow in spite of him not being in it.He's a rival and promoted above all and the hate is understandable on that level. To think it doesn't matter one way or the other for hockey is delusional and putting their hate above the good of the game.
To think his retirement will affect anything other than who the league markets next is delusional.
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Posted 13 December 2011 - 11:21 AM
I think those defending Crosby are looking at the situation a bit askew. He adds an excitement to the league when he's playing, but to say it would be a huge blow to the NHL if he never played again is reaching.
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Crosby is better than either of those players you mentioned.I don't understand this mentality. He's not any better for the game than Ovechkin or Stamkos or anyone else. Maybe because he sells more jerseys? As far as the actual game goes, he's not even the best player in the league (arguably), so his loss would suck for Pens fans but I think the league will do just fine.
Obviously the league will survive. A still think he's a whiny little ***** (albeit an extremely talented one) but it would be a shame for his career to end so early because of concussion issues.
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you don't think it will affect fans? you don't think the fans want to see the best players play, especially a player that may be the most exciting in the league?To think his retirement will affect anything other than who the league markets next is delusional.
do you think fans wouldn't care if datsyuk retired tomorrow due to injuries? a player that many feel is alone worth the price of admission to a game? and that's a player that already reached his prime, unlike crosby.
get a clue.
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This reminds of Eric Lindros. Too bad. Sure, I don't particularly like the kid and think he comes off as a spoiled brat, but he's a good, young talent, and good for the NHL.
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Posted 13 December 2011 - 12:16 PM
lindros took and gave out faaar more abuse than crosby has or ever will, and it was eric's own choice. This is the time where you ban contact or just let it go. Put up or shut up.This reminds of Eric Lindros. Too bad. Sure, I don't particularly like the kid and think he comes off as a spoiled brat, but he's a good, young talent, and good for the NHL.
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Posted 13 December 2011 - 12:24 PM
you don't think it will affect fans? you don't think the fans want to see the best players play, especially a player that may be the most exciting in the league?
do you think fans wouldn't care if datsyuk retired tomorrow due to injuries? a player that many feel is alone worth the price of admission to a game? and that's a player that already reached his prime, unlike crosby.
get a clue.
Fans would care if Datsyuk had to retire due to injuries, but you know what? It wouldn't spell the demise of the NHL, nor would Crosby's retirement, despite what the Canadian media would have you believe.
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