F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted February 24, 2021 On 1/28/2021 at 12:36 PM, LeftWinger said: Does Jeff Blashill (and staff) still have a job today? Marc Bergevin canned both Claude Julien, and Kirk Muller this morning. 2 LeftWinger and 13dangledangle reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gniwder 168 Report post Posted February 24, 2021 Just now, F.Michael said: Marc Bergevin canned both Claude Julien, and Kirk Muller this morning. Yzerman: Bergy: 3 F.Michael, Wings3:16 and 13dangledangle reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,951 Report post Posted February 24, 2021 2 hours ago, F.Michael said: Marc Bergevin canned both Claude Julien, and Kirk Muller this morning. One (or all of us) can only hope it happens here! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted February 24, 2021 2 hours ago, LeftWinger said: One (or all of us) can only hope it happens here! Grand Master Y will ride it out with Blashill...Hopefully there’s no contract extension offered after this season. 2 13dangledangle and kliq reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ely s 457 Report post Posted February 24, 2021 (edited) our next coach should have heard of this powerthingie,eh, power play thing, I´ve heard it´s real good stuff, you can score goals and all sorts of stuff with it, like winning games and all the other weird shxt, like going to overtime and so on... Edited February 24, 2021 by ely s Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,951 Report post Posted February 24, 2021 (edited) Staal, Ryan and disney.com are all being looked at by teams so far.... Edited February 24, 2021 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted February 24, 2021 16 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: Reminds of the neighborhood garage sale where set up all your stuff for sale only to put it back away later cuz no one wants ur crap. 2 13dangledangle and LeftWinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,951 Report post Posted February 24, 2021 Honestly I hope Bobby Ryan stays and re-signs. Also, I would hate to see Glenny go. 1 ely s reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ely s 457 Report post Posted February 24, 2021 Just now, LeftWinger said: Honestly I hope Bobby Ryan stays and re-signs. Also, I would hate to see Glenny go. Ryan would be nice, but Glenny has to stay. I wouldn´t even mind an "overpayment" to keep him. 1 LeftWinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mackel 679 Report post Posted February 24, 2021 44 minutes ago, ely s said: our next coach should have heard of this powerthingie,eh, power play thing, I´ve heard it´s real good stuff, you can score goals and all sorts of stuff with it, like winning games and all the other weird shxt, like going to overtime and so on... I thought our poweplay is our enforcer? 5 minutes ago, ely s said: Ryan would be nice, but Glenny has to stay. I wouldn´t even mind an "overpayment" to keep him. Comparable players can be had on the cheap in FA. I'd moved virtually everyone on this team st this point. 1 kipwinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ely s 457 Report post Posted February 24, 2021 our powerplay is a slap in the face. In the days when I moved around painfree and no grey hair had reached my head, that was the time when we had a pp. The struggles began under Babcock and are reaching new lows every year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted February 25, 2021 3 hours ago, LeftWinger said: Honestly I hope Bobby Ryan stays and re-signs. Also, I would hate to see Glenny go. Glendening will be on the roster next season even if hes traded this season. 1 kliq reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mackel 679 Report post Posted February 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: Glendening will be on the roster next season even if hes traded this season. Meh, we can get a new reclamation project in FA this summer... sell high on Ryan. Glendenning is a 4th liner... therefore I'm indifferent to his presence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted February 25, 2021 12 hours ago, mackel said: Meh, we can get a new reclamation project in FA this summer... sell high on Ryan. Glendenning is a 4th liner... therefore I'm indifferent to his presence. 1. Hardworking bottom 6 Grinder 2. Right handed shot 3. Good at faceoffs 4. Defensively sound 5. Proficient at wing or center 6. Great teammate and locker room presence 7. Highly productive veteran presence There are always a lot of bottom 6 guys available. But I think if you add up all of Glendening's skills, qualities, intangibles, etc...you will find he is much better player than most at that level. 1 ely s reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mackel 679 Report post Posted February 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: 1. Hardworking bottom 6 Grinder 2. Right handed shot 3. Good at faceoffs 4. Defensively sound 5. Proficient at wing or center 6. Great teammate and locker room presence 7. Highly productive veteran presence There are always a lot of bottom 6 guys available. But I think if you add up all of Glendening's skills, qualities, intangibles, etc...you will find he is much better player than most at that level. With all due respect I think that it comes down to homer bias, not calling you out, but fans in general... we know the players and observe these players with the same sort of objectivity parents view their children with. They are ours, so we value them beyond their objective worth. I'd trade Glendenning in a heartbeat and I feel we can get another player with a similar profile in FA, heck we may be able to get the same player back in FA and add a late 2nd or early 3rd round pick in the process. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gniwder 168 Report post Posted February 25, 2021 11 minutes ago, mackel said: With all due respect I think that it comes down to homer bias, not calling you out, but fans in general... we know the players and observe these players with the same sort of objectivity parents view their children with. They are ours, so we value them beyond their objective worth. I'd trade Glendenning in a heartbeat and I feel we can get another player with a similar profile in FA, heck we may be able to get the same player back in FA and add a late 2nd or early 3rd round pick in the process. Ain't that the truth. Soon to be 32 year old hardworking bottom 6er on an overpaid contract. 13 pts and -31 in his last 79 games. No one is going to be forking over anything of significance for this. Probably the most wildly overvalued player on this team by fans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,951 Report post Posted February 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: 1. Hardworking bottom 6 Grinder 2. Right handed shot 3. Good at faceoffs 4. Defensively sound 5. Proficient at wing or center 6. Great teammate and locker room presence 7. Highly productive veteran presence There are always a lot of bottom 6 guys available. But I think if you add up all of Glendening's skills, qualities, intangibles, etc...you will find he is much better player than most at that level. It will be nice to get him back if traded. Send him to a contender for a 3rd (2nd in a perfect world! ) and re-sign him to a nice raise for helping us out with getting another pick! 1 ely s reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,951 Report post Posted February 25, 2021 (edited) seems nearly everyone is available from Nashville. Would you entertain the idea of acquiring Jarnkrok, Fabbro and Ekholm? and at what cost? Would you dump Mantha for them? (you don't have to take Ekholm if you don't want, what would a good offer be for Fabbro and Jarnkrok?) Edited February 25, 2021 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,951 Report post Posted February 25, 2021 (edited) BTW: ...still waiting for Svech to get a shot though. May as well send him back to GR to get some playing time. Edited February 25, 2021 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gniwder 168 Report post Posted February 25, 2021 1 hour ago, LeftWinger said: BTW: ...still waiting for Svech to get a shot though. May as well send him back to GR to get some playing time. He has played 3 games in GR this year. 1 assist and 1 goal. IMO Barber, Hirose, Smith and Brome should be everyday regulars on this team. Nielsen, Erne, Gagner should all be cut. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,749 Report post Posted February 25, 2021 11 minutes ago, Gniwder said: He has played 3 games in GR this year. 1 assist and 1 goal. IMO Barber, Hirose, Smith and Brome should be everyday regulars on this team. Nielsen, Erne, Gagner should all be cut. Let me give you the Red Wings practice lines presented by Jefferson Blashill https://twitter.com/AnsarKhanMLive/status/1364624754582372353?s=20 Quote #RedWings practice lines and D pairs: Nielsen-Larkin-Mantha Ryan-Namestnikov-Zadina Erne-Glendening-Helm Brome-Filppula-Gagner Svechnikov extra Fabbri not skating. Bertuzzi injured. DeKeyser-Hronek Staal-Merrill Djoos-Nemeth Biega extra Stecher injured. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gniwder 168 Report post Posted February 25, 2021 23 minutes ago, Akakabuto said: Let me give you the Red Wings practice lines presented by Jefferson Blashill https://twitter.com/AnsarKhanMLive/status/1364624754582372353?s=20 I just don't understand how you don't move Brome, Glendening, or Filppula into the top 6. Those 3 already play more shifts than anyone else outside the top6. Give them a chance to get something going with the Larkin's of the world. Sigh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gniwder 168 Report post Posted February 25, 2021 Should be lineup: Fabbri - Larkin - Ryan Hirose - Namestnikov - Mantha Bertuzzi - Rasmussen - Zadina Smith - Barber - Glendening Brome Djoos - Hronek Merrill - Stecher Nemeth - Biega McIlrath Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted February 25, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, mackel said: we may be able to get the same player back in FA and add a late 2nd or early 3rd round pick in the process. That is exactly what I was saying the team should do. 4 hours ago, Gniwder said: Ain't that the truth. Soon to be 32 year old hardworking bottom 6er on an overpaid contract. 13 pts and -31 in his last 79 games. No one is going to be forking over anything of significance for this. Probably the most wildly overvalued player on this team by fans. 1. Age is irrelevant if he's still productive. 2. I wouldn't consider 1.5 mil this season as overpayment. 3. He is a grinder, not a scorer. 4. The team as a whole has a very poor +/-, and Glendening is mostly used in defensive roles with a poor defensive team and dman corp. Of course he's in the negative. 5. Way to gloss over the fact that he is 7th on the team in scoring and +/- this season and has the best +/- of anyone on the team who's played more than 13 games. Only 2 players on this team are positive players. 6. He is 10th in the entire NHL in faceoff wins and 23rd in FO win percentage. He's at or near the top of the league among RHers. 7.He will get more back in return than you think. I would disappointed if its only a 3rd or less. Edited February 25, 2021 by Neomaxizoomdweebie 1 1 mackel and CupCrazy22 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gniwder 168 Report post Posted February 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: That is exactly what I was saying the team should do. 1. Age is irrelevant if he's still productive. 2. I wouldn't consider 1.5 mil this season as overpayment. 3. He is a grinder, not a scorer. 4. The team as a whole has a very poor +/-, and Glendening is mostly used in defensive roles with a poor defensive team and dman corp. Of course he's in the negative. 5. Way to gloss over the fact that he is 7th on the team in scoring and +/- this season and has the best +/- of anyone on the team who's played more than 13 games. Only 2 players on this team are positive players. 6. He will get more back in return than you think. I would disappointed if its only a 3rd or less. 1. He's already on the back end of his career, this lowers his value 2. Glendening's cap hit is 1.8 mil. Dobbers predicts he'll make half that next season. 3. Yeah he doesn't produce any offense 6. Every team has one or multiple players in the same mold as Glendening, most of which are younger fresher and at a fraction of the cost. Glendening is not special and he's probably going to remain on the team cause no one will take him. 1 mackel reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites