Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted May 9, 2023 15 minutes ago, marcaractac said: People said the same thing about Jack Hughes not very long ago. agreed. way too early to give up on these 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted May 10, 2023 On 5/8/2023 at 8:50 PM, Jonas Mahonas said: How did we not draft Quinn Hughes. Jesus Cuz we got Zadina filling nets... 1 1 Jonas Mahonas and AtlantaHotWings reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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kipwinger 8,611 Report post Posted May 25, 2023 On 5/9/2023 at 7:17 AM, marcaractac said: People said the same thing about Jack Hughes not very long ago. I was a big Jack Hughes detractor during his draft year so I'll answer for this one. Nobody said Hughes wasn't good. People (myself included) said he would struggle to acclimatize to the NHL because of how he played in junior hockey. He was very slight and relied on his elite skating to hang on to pucks for WAY longer than you can in the NHL. That's not gonna fly in the big leagues where your skating advantage isn't as great and everyone is bigger and stronger. Not surprisingly that's exactly what happened. I was also critical of the narrative around him. That he was a "generational" talent who was on another level than most other players. I still stand by that. He's an outstanding offensive player but A) he's sheltered at even strength (Hischier does the heavy lifting), and B) the playoffs exposed just how far he's got to go to beat top centers in the league. Right now he's a really really good scorer but he's absolutely NOT on some other level. I have the same criticisms of guys like Johnny Gaudreau or Quinn Hughes. Sure he scorers a ton, but when games get tight in the playoffs you'd rather have Mark Stone or Miro Heiskanen than either of those two (right now). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted May 25, 2023 45 minutes ago, kipwinger said: I was a big Jack Hughes detractor during his draft year so I'll answer for this one. Nobody said Hughes wasn't good. People (myself included) said he would struggle to acclimatize to the NHL because of how he played in junior hockey. He was very slight and relied on his elite skating to hang on to pucks for WAY longer than you can in the NHL. That's not gonna fly in the big leagues where your skating advantage isn't as great and everyone is bigger and stronger. Not surprisingly that's exactly what happened. I was also critical of the narrative around him. That he was a "generational" talent who was on another level than most other players. I still stand by that. He's an outstanding offensive player but A) he's sheltered at even strength (Hischier does the heavy lifting), and B) the playoffs exposed just how far he's got to go to beat top centers in the league. Right now he's a really really good scorer but he's absolutely NOT on some other level. I have the same criticisms of guys like Johnny Gaudreau or Quinn Hughes. Sure he scorers a ton, but when games get tight in the playoffs you'd rather have Mark Stone or Miro Heiskanen than either of those two (right now). The Tkachucks are the guys you want in the playoffs. Chad level 100. 1 AtlantaHotWings reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted May 25, 2023 7 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said: The Tkachucks are the guys you want in the playoffs. Chad level 100. They’re so abrasive - toilet paper fears their bungholes… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted May 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, F.Michael said: They’re so abrasive - toilet paper fears their bungholes… post my jersey concept. lets ses what kip thinks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted May 25, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said: post my jersey concept. lets ses what kip thinks. Tigers color scheme > Lions color scheme A dark blue Winged Wheel would be pretty damn sweet Edited May 25, 2023 by F.Michael 1 Jonas Mahonas reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted May 26, 2023 23 hours ago, kipwinger said: I was a big Jack Hughes detractor during his draft year so I'll answer for this one. Nobody said Hughes wasn't good. People (myself included) said he would struggle to acclimatize to the NHL because of how he played in junior hockey. He was very slight and relied on his elite skating to hang on to pucks for WAY longer than you can in the NHL. That's not gonna fly in the big leagues where your skating advantage isn't as great and everyone is bigger and stronger. Not surprisingly that's exactly what happened. I was also critical of the narrative around him. That he was a "generational" talent who was on another level than most other players. I still stand by that. He's an outstanding offensive player but A) he's sheltered at even strength (Hischier does the heavy lifting), and B) the playoffs exposed just how far he's got to go to beat top centers in the league. Right now he's a really really good scorer but he's absolutely NOT on some other level. I have the same criticisms of guys like Johnny Gaudreau or Quinn Hughes. Sure he scorers a ton, but when games get tight in the playoffs you'd rather have Mark Stone or Miro Heiskanen than either of those two (right now). Those claiming he was generational were always out to lunch. The guy has the tools to be a top-10 scorer in the league for a long time for sure. But that 'generational' term is used far too loosely these days. Bedard is the closest thing since McDavid. But until he shows he can do it at the NHL level, it's all speculation. As for Hughes, he's still only 22 years old. He'll figure out this whole playoffs thing. My guess is he will do so sooner rather than later. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axl Foley 314 Report post Posted May 26, 2023 Would anyone take Hughes over Seider in a redraft? I see a lot of talk about Hughes still being the best player in that draft. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
town123 200 Report post Posted May 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Axl Foley said: Would anyone take Hughes over Seider in a redraft? I see a lot of talk about Hughes still being the best player in that draft. Not me. Mo will put Hughes through the boards next season round 1 playoffs. I'll let the rest of you debate how many months Hughes will be off skates and Mo's punishment or lack there of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walman6million 250 Report post Posted May 26, 2023 8 hours ago, marcaractac said: Those claiming he was generational were always out to lunch. The guy has the tools to be a top-10 scorer in the league for a long time for sure. But that 'generational' term is used far too loosely these days. Bedard is the closest thing since McDavid. But until he shows he can do it at the NHL level, it's all speculation. As for Hughes, he's still only 22 years old. He'll figure out this whole playoffs thing. My guess is he will do so sooner rather than later. Ur right that until Bedard proves it doesnt mean much. Lafrengray was looking like a stud at the draft. Super creative dangler and crap. Now look at him. 1 hour ago, Axl Foley said: Would anyone take Hughes over Seider in a redraft? I see a lot of talk about Hughes still being the best player in that draft. Ssider all day. Norris caliber D. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtlantaHotWings 1,046 Report post Posted May 27, 2023 I don't know if I still want Mo on this team after the suspension in the worlds. What kind of message are we sending to young Red Wings fans if we keep him and Joe V on the team? That it's okay to be violent to other players? I prefer we get more milk toast players and play nice with the other teams. was being funny..... 1 Jonas Mahonas reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walman6million 250 Report post Posted May 27, 2023 1 hour ago, AtlantaHotWings said: I don't know if I still want Mo on this team after the suspension in the worlds. What kind of message are we sending to young Red Wings fans if we keep him and Joe V on the team? That it's okay to be violent to other players? I prefer we get more milk toast players and play nice with the other teams. was being funny..... Haha you're funny. Funny in a sad clown sort of way. Yeah, we absolutely need more MoWalling. Not more betacuck pearl-clutching. So poor out your soy latte, go outside, pick something up, and put it down again. Do this repeatedly until your muscle mass doesn't look like that of a grape, and the homosexual thoughts completely go away. When I was in the United States Army (much like a hockey team) in Iraqistan we used to kick in the doors of terrorist families. This one house we raided had only kids in it (parents out doing terrorism probably) and so I started machine-gunning the lil Saddam's in training. The oldest kid ran out the backdoor b4 I could smoke him. My captain (beta coward) said to let him go and stop "murdering children". That kid who got away? Grew up to be Osama Bin Laden. So yeah buddy, that's why you never let up or hold back. Always go full force like an alpha, just like Mo (and me and Andrew Tate). When my wifes boyfriend, Ricky, is banging her in the other room, I literally get an adrenaline rush knowing that I can bang her better and that she's thinking of me the whole time. Can your protein starved brain even comprehend that level of alphaness? I didn't think so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted May 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Walman6million said: Haha you're funny. Funny in a sad clown sort of way. Yeah, we absolutely need more MoWalling. Not more betacuck pearl-clutching. So poor out your soy latte, go outside, pick something up, and put it down again. Do this repeatedly until your muscle mass doesn't look like that of a grape, and the homosexual thoughts completely go away. When I was in the United States Army (much like a hockey team) in Iraqistan we used to kick in the doors of terrorist families. This one house we raided had only kids in it (parents out doing terrorism probably) and so I started machine-gunning the lil Saddam's in training. The oldest kid ran out the backdoor b4 I could smoke him. My captain (beta coward) said to let him go and stop "murdering children". That kid who got away? Grew up to be Osama Bin Laden. So yeah buddy, that's why you never let up or hold back. Always go full force like an alpha, just like Mo (and me and Andrew Tate). When my wifes boyfriend, Ricky, is banging her in the other room, I literally get an adrenaline rush knowing that I can bang her better and that she's thinking of me the whole time. Can your protein starved brain even comprehend that level of alphaness? I didn't think so. You are strange being Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axl Foley 314 Report post Posted May 28, 2023 9 hours ago, Walman6million said: Haha you're funny. Funny in a sad clown sort of way. Yeah, we absolutely need more MoWalling. Not more betacuck pearl-clutching. So poor out your soy latte, go outside, pick something up, and put it down again. Do this repeatedly until your muscle mass doesn't look like that of a grape, and the homosexual thoughts completely go away. When I was in the United States Army (much like a hockey team) in Iraqistan we used to kick in the doors of terrorist families. This one house we raided had only kids in it (parents out doing terrorism probably) and so I started machine-gunning the lil Saddam's in training. The oldest kid ran out the backdoor b4 I could smoke him. My captain (beta coward) said to let him go and stop "murdering children". That kid who got away? Grew up to be Osama Bin Laden. So yeah buddy, that's why you never let up or hold back. Always go full force like an alpha, just like Mo (and me and Andrew Tate). When my wifes boyfriend, Ricky, is banging her in the other room, I literally get an adrenaline rush knowing that I can bang her better and that she's thinking of me the whole time. Can your protein starved brain even comprehend that level of alphaness? I didn't think so. Be honest. The Army wouldn't take you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted May 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Axl Foley said: Be honest. The Army wouldn't take you. Someone has gotta clean the latrines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axl Foley 314 Report post Posted May 28, 2023 2 hours ago, F.Michael said: Someone has gotta clean the latrines. Like Steve Rogers before the serum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walman6million 250 Report post Posted May 29, 2023 On 5/27/2023 at 6:47 PM, Axl Foley said: Be honest. The Army wouldn't take you. Discharged for yelling "GOOOOOD MORNINGGGGGG BEING G-AYYYYYYYYYY" into the barracks PA system on my first day Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axl Foley 314 Report post Posted May 30, 2023 5 hours ago, Walman6million said: Discharged for yelling "GOOOOOD MORNINGGGGGG BEING G-AYYYYYYYYYY" into the barracks PA system on my first day Doubt. Military is woke now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walman6million 250 Report post Posted May 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Axl Foley said: Doubt. Military is woke now. why would u dox urself? regardless, salute! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,611 Report post Posted June 3, 2023 4 hours ago, Akakabuto said: So we are back to winning the trade again? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bIueadams 776 Report post Posted June 3, 2023 6 hours ago, Akakabuto said: Jesus christ - this kid is the laziest SOB of all time. Yeah go prove you're a lazy floater on a 3rd team. Then maybe you can be traded to a 4th team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,611 Report post Posted June 3, 2023 (edited) If Washington buys him out I'd take him back for 4 million (or less) x 3 years. He wasn't a fit for Laviolette's uptempo system, clearly, but he's had success in a defense-first sytem (Blashill) which isn't too different than what we have now. As a 3rd/4th line wing who will occasionally punch a face I'd do it. Edited June 3, 2023 by kipwinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites