Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted June 16, 2019 2 hours ago, e_prime said: Basically the savings from the Gudas/Niskanen trade. The Helm of the Caps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted June 17, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said: The Helm of the Caps. Hagelin is overpaid too? That sounds like a reasonable deal, but I admit I am not that familiar with the guy. Edited June 17, 2019 by Neomaxizoomdweebie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted June 17, 2019 13 hours ago, e_prime said: Basically the savings from the Gudas/Niskanen trade. Makes sense. I guess I'd say Hagelin + Gudas > Niskanen at this point, if that's what it took to keep Hagelin. I'm not the biggest Gudas fan, but Hagelin has been much better for the caps than anywhere else he was recently. It will be interesting to see how Gudas and Wilson are on the same team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted June 17, 2019 (edited) All but done? Edited June 17, 2019 by e_prime 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted June 17, 2019 Great news! 1 e_prime reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted June 17, 2019 Don't dream -- it's over. No Karlsson in Detroit! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted June 17, 2019 1 minute ago, e_prime said: Don't dream -- it's over. No Karlsson in Detroit! It was never a dream. 1 nyqvististhefuture reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted June 17, 2019 Assuming this deal gets done, Ottawa gets an extra 2nd round pick in 2021. Also, assuming this means Nyquist won't be re-signed, our conditional pick in 2020 will remain a 3rd rounder. Oh well... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted June 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: It was never a dream. I'm pretty sure for some on here it was a dream. I mean, a pipe-dream, but you know some of the FANATICS on here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted June 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: It was never a dream. Yup , realistically sj was never gonna let go of a player of Karlsson caliber ... this probably means we get 3rd now for Nyquist f*** Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted June 17, 2019 Oh man - Sharks are gonna regret this after the 3rd season. 3 1 Neomaxizoomdweebie, e_prime, mackel and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted June 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, F.Michael said: Oh man - Sharks are gonna regret this after the 3rd season. But will they regret this or Evander Kanes contract more?? Also, damn they have a lot of free agents.. Could be a much different team next year. https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/sharks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted June 17, 2019 1 minute ago, amato said: But will they regret this or Evander Kanes contract more?? Also, damn they have a lot of free agents.. Could be a much different team next year. https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/sharks IMHO this is about the time where they need to cut ties with the 2 Joe's... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted June 17, 2019 44 minutes ago, e_prime said: All but done? I never was a big Karlsson guy. Lots of points and even +/- means he isnt playing good defense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted June 17, 2019 (edited) Daaaaannnnngggg. Braun and Dillon signed for this year at 3.8 and 3.27 respectively. So... $33.57 for 5 defensemen. Edited June 17, 2019 by e_prime Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted June 17, 2019 58 minutes ago, F.Michael said: IMHO this is about the time where they need to cut ties with the 2 Joe's... yeah, I think I would agree.. wouldn't be surprised if they were both willing to come back on extremely team friendly contracts though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcom007 1,465 Report post Posted June 17, 2019 Glad this is over and done. Will be interesting to see how this plays out for SJ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted June 17, 2019 Alex edler and canucks apparently done , he wants a ntc and I Can’t see him getting that from any team i know the wings wanted to draft him so I don’t know if we’d be interested or maybe Holland in Edmonton ... if it was a 2-3 year deal with a ntc and we can get rid of deadweight like ericsson And Daley would that be something worth considering? are hronek and cholowski both exempt from being protected for the Seattle draft? choosing to be optimistic and assuming we get trouba here next year then we’d have to protect trouba,hronek and cholowski? If not we got spots ...couldn’t care less if we lost dekeyser to Seattle and green will be gone ... anyways not a big impact d at his age but I don’t really recall any dmen being available July 1 that are worthy 2 hours ago, e_prime said: Daaaaannnnngggg. Braun and Dillon signed for this year at 3.8 and 3.27 respectively. So... $33.57 for 5 defensemen. Dillon and Braun are ufa’s so they’ll be looking for cheaper options ... hello Doug Wilson? This is Steve yzermna we can send you both Daley and ericsson at 50% off if you resign Nyquist , thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,524 Report post Posted June 17, 2019 6 hours ago, krsmith17 said: Assuming this deal gets done, Ottawa gets an extra 2nd round pick in 2021. Also, assuming this means Nyquist won't be re-signed, our conditional pick in 2020 will remain a 3rd rounder. Oh well... While I'm generally fine with the return we got on Nyquist I can't help but marvel at how dumb the conditions were. First, who bets on the Sharks' playoff success? Lol. Terrible. Second, in order to re-sign him they'd basically have to swing and miss on one or both of Pavelski and Karlsson, their top two priorities. Not to mention, as I've stated elsewhere, in order to get a better pick next year we had to get a worse pick this year. Dumb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted June 17, 2019 7 hours ago, krsmith17 said: Great news! This is a horrible contract. They were the only team who could have stretched the contract to 8 years, and they're still paying him 11 mil per? 10.5 per would have matched the total amount he theoretically could have gotten in free agency (assuming he could have even gotten that). if he reached UFA and got 12×7 from another team (unlikely IMO) than SJS are still paying 4 mil more for an extra year. Is a 37/38 yo Erik Karlsson worth that? iDK. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted June 17, 2019 52 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: This is a horrible contract. They were the only team who could have stretched the contract to 8 years, and they're still paying him 11 mil per? 10.5 per would have matched the total amount he theoretically could have gotten in free agency (assuming he could have even gotten that). if he reached UFA and got 12×7 from another team (unlikely IMO) than SJS are still paying 4 mil more for an extra year. Is a 37/38 yo Erik Karlsson worth that? iDK. It was actually $11.5M, not $11M like it was originally reported... I don't think Karlsson is worth that next season, let alone in 3-8 years from now... Such a terrible contract. The only thing that makes this worth it, is if he helps the Sharks win the Cup in the next 8 years. Possible, but I wouldn't bet on it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arag 308 Report post Posted June 17, 2019 8 hours ago, F.Michael said: Oh man - Sharks are gonna regret this after the 3rd season. Karlsson=conflict with wife for 8 more years✌ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted June 17, 2019 (edited) https://twitter.com/wpgjetspr/status/1140767329006968832?s=21 TRANSACTION: The Winnipeg Jets have acquired D - Neal Pionk and a first-round selection, 20th overall, in the 2019 NHL Draft from the New York Rangers in exchange for D - Jacob Trouba. is this a legit Jets account? Edited June 17, 2019 by e_prime Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted June 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, e_prime said: https://twitter.com/wpgjetspr/status/1140767329006968832?s=21 TRANSACTION: The Winnipeg Jets have acquired D - Neal Pionk and a first-round selection, 20th overall, in the 2019 NHL Draft from the New York Rangers in exchange for D - Jacob Trouba. is this a legit Jets account? NHL Network confirms this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mackel 681 Report post Posted June 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, e_prime said: https://twitter.com/wpgjetspr/status/1140767329006968832?s=21 TRANSACTION: The Winnipeg Jets have acquired D - Neal Pionk and a first-round selection, 20th overall, in the 2019 NHL Draft from the New York Rangers in exchange for D - Jacob Trouba. is this a legit Jets account? At that price surely they have a contract extension already agreed on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites