LeftWinger 4,934 Report post Posted June 19, 2019 6 hours ago, krsmith17 said: Yzerman has already shown that he's willing to play hard ball with RFA's. If Athanasiou demands X amount of dollars and Yzerman doesn't believe he's worth X amount of dollars, he will ship him out. IF Athanasiou files for arbitration, gets a one year contract, Yzerman will not allow him to walk as a free agent next offseason. He will trade his ass at some point next season for a solid return. Likely scenario IF Athanasiou puts up 60 points next season: Athanasiou asks for $6.5M, Yzerman offers $4.5M. They eventually meet in the middle and settle around $5.5M. AA cannot become a UFA until he is 27 or has played in the NHL for 7 years. If AA got awarded a 1 year deal, he'd still be an RFA in 2020. He has 3 more season's before he can become UFA when he turns 27. He's only played in 3 qualifying season's. Same goes with Mantha. Quote NHL. A player who is no longer considered to be entry-level, but does not qualify as an unrestricted free agent, becomes a restricted free agent when his contract expires. A player may only declare himself to be an unrestricted free agent if he is over the age of 27 or has played in the league for a minimum of 7 years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restricted_free_agent 4 hours ago, Dabura said: Hello Edmonton! I predict Pittsburgh. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,934 Report post Posted June 19, 2019 1 hour ago, krsmith17 said: This helps us, because (with Z and Franzen) we have about $23M in cap space, if it's only $81M then we still have $21M, we are open to take on some 1 year big contracts that include some high drafts picks with them. I'll take that 1st round from Tampa in order to relieve them of Callahan please. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted June 19, 2019 13 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: AA cannot become a UFA until he is 27 or has played in the NHL for 7 years. If AA got awarded a 1 year deal, he'd still be an RFA in 2020. He has 3 more season's before he can become UFA when he turns 27. He's only played in 3 qualifying season's. Same goes with Mantha. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restricted_free_agent I predict Pittsburgh. Yeah - he’s made his $$$, and I’m thinking he wants to win 1 more Cup, and would likely sign on with a ‘contender’ for cheap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted June 20, 2019 20 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: Wow - overpayment, but hey - it's not my $$$. This made me chuckle...More silliness outta AZ. https://www.tsn.ca/gary-bettman-nhl-board-approves-arizona-coyotes-sale-new-arena-needed-1.1325309 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted June 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, F.Michael said: Wow - overpayment, but hey - it's not my $$$. Traded term for money. Not a bad signing. It'll be a few years before Van are a max cap team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted June 20, 2019 1 minute ago, The 91 of Ryans said: Traded term for money. Not a bad signing. It'll be a few years before Van are a max cap team. Good point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted June 20, 2019 31 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: Probably only way to convince him not to be protected for the expansion , ridiculous $ though ... hope Seattle takes him now just to piss him off lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) 32 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said: Probably only way to convince him not to be protected for the expansion , ridiculous $ though ... hope Seattle takes him now just to piss him off lol At least he wouldn't be moving far would be pretty funny to see him play in the same division against Vancouver Edited June 20, 2019 by amato 1 nyqvististhefuture reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted June 20, 2019 https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/jesse-puljujarvi-tells-oilers-trade-ill-play-europe/?template=basic&template=basic Quote EDMONTON — Jesse Puljujarvi will not play another game for the Edmonton Oilers, according to his agent Markus Lehto. If the Oilers don’t trade him within the National Hockey League, he will play in Europe next fall. "If he doesn’t get traded," Lehto confirmed, "he will play in Europe next year. He will not play in Edmonton." Quote "At the end of the day, if you can do a deal that makes sense for the Edmonton Oilers, you do it," said Holland, who spoke on Wednesday morning with Lehto. "If you can’t, you go over (to Europe) and watch him play, and hopefully he scores a lot of goals over there." Well, enjoy Europe I guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted June 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, amato said: https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/jesse-puljujarvi-tells-oilers-trade-ill-play-europe/?template=basic&template=basic Well, enjoy Europe I guess. It’s all talk man lol he won’t let the oilers lose an asset for nothing he’ll be dealt at some point Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,934 Report post Posted June 20, 2019 27 minutes ago, amato said: https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/jesse-puljujarvi-tells-oilers-trade-ill-play-europe/?template=basic&template=basic Well, enjoy Europe I guess. Helm, Glendening or Nielsen? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted June 20, 2019 9 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: Kenny's the MAN. Says a lot about Red Wings culture that he never really had to deal with a situation like this in his bazillion years with the Wings. 4 kliq, amato, krsmith17 and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted June 20, 2019 14 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said: Kenny's the MAN. Says a lot about Red Wings culture that he never really had to deal with a situation like this in his bazillion years with the Wings. Yes. Now he should trade Puljujarvi for the $5.25M top six center he signed for too much for too long... 1 amato reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted June 20, 2019 2 hours ago, The 91 of Ryans said: Kenny's the MAN. Says a lot about Red Wings culture that he never really had to deal with a situation like this in his bazillion years with the Wings. He never had to deal with a player wanting out cause he overpaid most for longterm deals and gave no trade clauses away to anyone who asked lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted June 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said: He never had to deal with a player wanting out cause he overpaid most for longterm deals and gave no trade clauses away to anyone who asked lol I was more referring to RFAs wanting out because of how they've been treated. Fedorov and AA come to mind as hold outs but that was more about $$ (although AA may have had some beef over ice time and useage) . He's lost plenty of guys as UFAs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted June 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said: I was more referring to RFAs wanting out because of how they've been treated. Fedorov and AA come to mind as hold outs but that was more about $$ (although AA may have had some beef over ice time and useage) . He's lost plenty of guys as UFAs In that case agreed ... AA could of had some beef and deservedly so ,where as puljujarvi was never properly developed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted June 20, 2019 5 hours ago, LeftWinger said: Helm, Glendening or Nielsen? If Holland got his choice of those guys, I'm torn between helm and glendog. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted June 20, 2019 Ken Holland is actually trying to trade for mrazek rights LOL .... this f***en guy trades him and force feeds us Howard and now wants mrazek back , unreal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted June 20, 2019 25 minutes ago, amato said: If Holland got his choice of those guys, I'm torn between helm and glendog. You mean you're torn between Helm and Glendening who Holland would take? Or who you would want him to take? Given the choice, I would definitely rather him take Nielsen... but yeah, he would likely rather one of Helm or Glendening... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted June 20, 2019 3 hours ago, nyqvististhefuture said: He never had to deal with a player wanting out cause he overpaid most for longterm deals and gave no trade clauses away to anyone who asked lol This is clearly in reference to RFA's, any of the over payments Holland ever made was to UFA's. 3 hours ago, The 91 of Ryans said: I was more referring to RFAs wanting out because of how they've been treated. Fedorov and AA come to mind as hold outs but that was more about $$ (although AA may have had some beef over ice time and useage) . He's lost plenty of guys as UFAs Exactly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted June 21, 2019 Minus Helm. Plus Cozens and Puljujarvi. Instant upgrade for us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted June 21, 2019 12 hours ago, krsmith17 said: You mean you're torn between Helm and Glendening who Holland would take? Or who you would want him to take? Given the choice, I would definitely rather him take Nielsen... but yeah, he would likely rather one of Helm or Glendening... Who I think he would take. I would agree we would rather he take neilsen. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted June 21, 2019 Jim Benning and Peter Chiarelli managing the same team?... To VAN: 2019 1st round pick (6th overall), 2019 2nd round pick (SJS - 60th overall) To DET: 2019 1st round pick (10th overall), 2020 1st round pick, Brock Boeser 2 nyqvististhefuture and amato reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
