amato 3,210 Report post Posted June 30, 2019 5 hours ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: A 70-90 pt player for a 40-50 pt player for 2 million in savings. What do I not understand about this deal? Why does this seem absolutely stupid to me from the Penguins POV? I agree it seems dumb on the penguins part. Don't know anything about the prospect they got back, but unless he's a top prospect, I don't get it at all. Then again, I hope he's not. Dumb on the penguins part sounds great to me 2 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said: Where will Hall land? Taylor Hall? Probably new jersey. He's under contract for another year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted June 30, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, amato said: I agree it seems dumb on the penguins part. Don't know anything about the prospect they got back, but unless he's a top prospect, I don't get it at all. Then again, I hope he's not. Dumb on the penguins part sounds great to me I've read reports that there were some behind the scenes issues in Pittsburgh, specifically regarding Kessel, Malkin and Sullivan. Sounds like both sides wanted to move on, because from a "hockey" perspective, this seems like a bad move. Here is an article from The Score.https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1791799 The Phil Kessel saga is seemingly never-ending. The Pittsburgh Penguins remain interested in trading Kessel, preferably before free agency begins on July 1, sources told The Athletic's Rob Rossi. This comes less than a month after general manager Jim Rutherford said it was unlikely he would deal the winger. Kessel is signed for three more years with a $6.8-million cap hit and can veto a trade to all but eight teams of his choosing. Sources told Rossi they believe Kessel's eight-team list includes five which the Penguins would never trade him to, along with three others that can't afford his cap hit. He reportedly used his no-trade clause to nix a move to the Minnesota Wild in May for a return that would've been headlined by Jason Zucker. Rossi adds that Pittsburgh's desire to trade Kessel stems from a rift with head coach Mike Sullivan. The 31-year-old wants to play on the club's second line, centered by Evgeni Malkin, but Sullivan occasionally drops Kessel down to the third line when the two aren't clicking. Separating Kessel and Malkin worked marvelously during Pittsburgh's Cup run in 2016 when the winger anchored the "HBK" line with Nick Bonino and Carl Hagelin. Some also think Kessel is partially at fault for Malkin's declining defensive play over the past two seasons. Sources told Rossi that they believe Malkin has picked up some of Kessel's bad defensive habits, including "inconsistent backchecking, inattentiveness regarding own-zone responsibilities, and poor puck management in the neutral zone." Off the ice, Sullivan and other staff believe Kessel would be a better player - and set an example for younger Penguins players - if he showed a "greater commitment to fitness," sources told Rossi. Furthermore, Kessel's status as a regular at a local casino was apparently not viewed as an issue until younger players, including Jake Guentzel, started joining him there on days before games, which other players were told was frowned upon. Kessel hasn't missed a game since the 2009-10 season. He tallied 45 points in 49 playoff games during Pittsburgh's two Stanley Cup triumphs and has enjoyed the best two-year stretch of his career during the last couple of seasons, during which he's registered 174 points in 164 games. Edited June 30, 2019 by kliq 1 amato reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted June 30, 2019 50 minutes ago, kliq said: I've read reports that there were some behind the scenes issues in Pittsburgh, specifically regarding Kessel, Malkin and Sullivan. Sounds like both sides wanted to move on, because from a "hockey" perspective, this seems like a bad move. Here is an article from The Score.https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1791799 The Phil Kessel saga is seemingly never-ending. The Pittsburgh Penguins remain interested in trading Kessel, preferably before free agency begins on July 1, sources told The Athletic's Rob Rossi. This comes less than a month after general manager Jim Rutherford said it was unlikely he would deal the winger. Kessel is signed for three more years with a $6.8-million cap hit and can veto a trade to all but eight teams of his choosing. Sources told Rossi they believe Kessel's eight-team list includes five which the Penguins would never trade him to, along with three others that can't afford his cap hit. He reportedly used his no-trade clause to nix a move to the Minnesota Wild in May for a return that would've been headlined by Jason Zucker. Rossi adds that Pittsburgh's desire to trade Kessel stems from a rift with head coach Mike Sullivan. The 31-year-old wants to play on the club's second line, centered by Evgeni Malkin, but Sullivan occasionally drops Kessel down to the third line when the two aren't clicking. Separating Kessel and Malkin worked marvelously during Pittsburgh's Cup run in 2016 when the winger anchored the "HBK" line with Nick Bonino and Carl Hagelin. Some also think Kessel is partially at fault for Malkin's declining defensive play over the past two seasons. Sources told Rossi that they believe Malkin has picked up some of Kessel's bad defensive habits, including "inconsistent backchecking, inattentiveness regarding own-zone responsibilities, and poor puck management in the neutral zone." Off the ice, Sullivan and other staff believe Kessel would be a better player - and set an example for younger Penguins players - if he showed a "greater commitment to fitness," sources told Rossi. Furthermore, Kessel's status as a regular at a local casino was apparently not viewed as an issue until younger players, including Jake Guentzel, started joining him there on days before games, which other players were told was frowned upon. Kessel hasn't missed a game since the 2009-10 season. He tallied 45 points in 49 playoff games during Pittsburgh's two Stanley Cup triumphs and has enjoyed the best two-year stretch of his career during the last couple of seasons, during which he's registered 174 points in 164 games. Malkin also tweeted some compilation video of Kessel complaining on the bench. Seems like there was some bad blood there. Interesting that Kessel basically forced the trade to Arizona. A team that will probably just be happy to have a 60+ point player (not one Coyote breached 50 pts last year) regardless of his fitness and off ice habits. I have a feeling Kessel is working on his golf game this summer in prep for Arizona. Also worth mentioning that a flight from Phoenix to Vegas is only an hour in the air. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted June 30, 2019 Carolina gives back Darling and a 6th Florida likely buying out Darling Bobrovsky and Panarin signing in Florida in 20 hours Holland is clearing space too... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted June 30, 2019 (edited) Kessel scored 27 goals this season. 25 of those goals were scored against the Wings. He is a big fat phony. "Phony" Phil Kessel they call him. Disgraceful! Edited June 30, 2019 by Dabura Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted June 30, 2019 12 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Interesting that Kessel basically forced the trade to Arizona. A team that will probably just be happy to have a 60+ point player (not one Coyote breached 50 pts last year) regardless of his fitness and off ice habits. The Coyotes of this past season were so bad at scoring goals it almost beggars belief; they need a Kessel in the worst way. So I have to imagine 'yotes fans are feeling pretty good right now. And, y'know what, good for them. The true believers of that franchise's fan base are some pretty decent masochists folks who've suffered through endless losing and shameless chicanery and deserve a little love from the hockey gods, especially after losing hometown boy Auston Matthews to frking Tronna. All of that being said...it's low-key hilarious to me that the 'yotes are trending up just in time for relocation to the Central Division. That's happening, what, two years from now? So just as Colorado reveals its final form and lays waste to everyone. Oof. The Universe does not like the Coyotes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted June 30, 2019 3 Euro_Twins, F.Michael and amato reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted June 30, 2019 Andrew Shaw back to hawks with a 7th for a 7th,2nd and a 3rd surprised habs got back decent picks , and I don’t know what’s going on with the hawks trying to reassemble those cup winning teams I guess lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted June 30, 2019 1 hour ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Fake news...Kessel's a native 'Cheesehead', and so am I...It's all about the Culvers 1 55fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted July 1, 2019 Bobrovsky to florida duchene to nashville pavelski to dallas panik to caps it’s going nuts on twitter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted July 1, 2019 4 hours ago, F.Michael said: Fake news...Kessel's a native 'Cheesehead', and so am I...It's all about the Culvers How is this guy a professional athlete? 1 3 Akakabuto, Larkness Monster, Wheelchairsuperhero and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings3:16 318 Report post Posted July 1, 2019 Man the meeting periods before UFA day takes the whole fun out of UFA day! 1 BigWillieStyle reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted July 1, 2019 7 hours ago, F.Michael said: Fake news...Kessel's a native 'Cheesehead', and so am I...It's all about the Culvers Meh him and his sister went to high school 5 minutes from where I grew up in Mich. Bet he eats coneys. 3 hours ago, nyqvististhefuture said: Bobrovsky to florida duchene to nashville pavelski to dallas panik to caps it’s going nuts on twitter Perry to Dallas with Pavelski Pickard to Wings (more likely GR) Connolly to Florida Panarin to Isles or CBJ Zuccarello to Minny 1 nyqvististhefuture reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigWillieStyle 662 Report post Posted July 1, 2019 8 hours ago, Wings3:16 said: Man the meeting periods before UFA day takes the whole fun out of UFA day! Totally agree. It's like wrapping your own Christmas presents, and then trying to be surprised when you see what Santa brought you. I don't even know how it got like this, but UFA day used to be holiday worthy, and worth sitting by the TV or radio all day, just to see what deals went down. It's bad enough that fewer big names hit the market than in years past, but to now let negotiations take place before the 1st, just completely kills the excitement of the day. 1 Wings3:16 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted July 1, 2019 Quote Amid reports that Panarin is likely to sign Monday with the New York Islanders, the Blue Jackets have put a massive offer on the table with agent Paul Theofanous, believed to be eight years and $96 million, an average annual value of $12 million per season, according to league sources. The deal could be worth as much as $100 million or $12.5 million per season. https://theathletic.com/1056150/2019/06/30/blue-jackets-make-a-massive-late-night-offer-in-an-attempt-to-keep-artemi-panarin/ One last BIG push by CBJ. also this. I'll take a quiet off season over that any day 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted July 1, 2019 12 hours ago, GMRwings1983 said: How is this guy a professional athlete? Next stop WWE... 2 ChristopherReevesLegs and amato reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted July 1, 2019 Vesey to Sabres for a 3rd lmao Donskoi to Avs, 3 year 3.5 Granlund to Edmonton Carr to Nashville Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted July 1, 2019 Hartman x2 1.9 with wild stralman to Florida 5.5 x 3 LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted July 1, 2019 what?? it's gotta be cheap then, right?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted July 1, 2019 18 minutes ago, amato said: what?? it's gotta be cheap then, right?? 3.5 for 6! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted July 1, 2019 11.65 per 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted July 1, 2019 https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/nhl/red-wings/2019/07/01/report-detroit-red-wings-add-defenseman-patrik-nemeth-free-agency/1616946001/ Quote Ironically, it was Nemeth who hit Dylan Larkin in a game in December, which led to Anthony Mantha sticking up for Larkin and getting into a fight with Nemeth, and Mantha suffered a broken hand. We really like bottom-pairing defensemen who break Mantha's hands. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings3:16 318 Report post Posted July 1, 2019 Flip has returned...ugh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted July 1, 2019 19 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: 11.65 per I honestly never bought into the idea of him playing for the NYI. Who in their right mind wants to split both home games, and practices in a handful of facilities? At least the Rags come across as a classy organization. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted July 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, Wings3:16 said: Flip has returned...ugh 2 year deal apparently...If that means a butt plug like Abdelkader sits in the press box - that'll make me happy. 2 Wings3:16 and TheDetroitRedWings reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
