The 91 of Ryans 3,012 Report post Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: I don't know. I don't really feel comfortable offer sheeting any player in that range... Aho is a phenomenal player, but is he worth $10+M and 2 high first round picks, plus a 2nd and 3rd round pick? I'm not so sure... Even if it's not Lafreniere, we would have a good chance of getting one of, Byfield, Raymond or Holtz as well. All of which could be better than Aho. I get the whole bird in the hand mentality, but that's a LOT to give up... If it were up to me, I'd much rather go after one of the smaller fish, like Kapanen. $4.2M and a 2nd round pick, for a 22 year old 40-50+ point right-handed winger. That's much better value in my opinion... I'm not sure either. Edit to add: would you trade Seider + Zadina + Berrgren + Regula for Aho I was lead to believe that Kapanen's all but signed in Toronto Edited June 27, 2019 by The 91 of Ryans Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted June 27, 2019 19 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said: I'm not sure either. Edit to add: would you trade Seider + Zadina + Berrgren + Regula for Aho Exactly. Even if you remove the two 6th overall picks from the equation because Detroit would likely be better after adding Aho... Would you trade Svechnikov, Cholowski, Hronek and Saarijarvi for Aho? I don't even think I'd do that, and that's likely worst case haul in that scenario... 26 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said: I was lead to believe that Kapanen's all but signed in Toronto Yeah, there's been talk that he will be signed for around $3.4M, but until the contract is signed, a team can still submit an offer sheet. I'd be comfortable signing him for around $4M, and give up a 2nd round pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) Make Offer front loaded contract 20+ mill in 12 months a possibility ... owner freaks out ... make an offer athanasiou + svechnikov + glendening +kotkansalo + petruzzelli + 2021 3rd from Vegas for aho + Faulk maybe the owner sees all the pieces and thinks f*** paying a single guy 9+ for 5 years ... deal actually happens we keep Faulk and he along with green if they have solid capable seasons like they can we can fetch two firsts for them for 2020 very unlikely to happen this scenario but I’d do something like this otherwise stay status quo ... and for the record I think Carolina would match any offer cause they have no choice , they don’t want to piss off whatever fan base they have left Edited June 27, 2019 by nyqvististhefuture Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,012 Report post Posted June 27, 2019 47 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said: athanasiou + svechnikov + glendening +kotkansalo + petruzzelli + 2021 3rd from Vegas for aho + Faulk deal actually happens 3 Akakabuto, krsmith17 and nyqvististhefuture reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, xault said: Does it have real names of players in nhl teams? No, there is a secondary company called "The Blue Line", or TBL for short, that makes rosters. You have to download or subscribe to their roster after the fact which will provide player names, accurate stats, and everything you need. Fans seem to have universally decided that TBL is the best roster provider, and I would agree. They spend an ungodly amount of time developing player stats and rosters... so when you scout some random Ukranian 17 year old your first season it's actually pretty accurate to that specific player. They have fans around the globe who help contribute to the player database. It's super deep. The only thing I don't like about the TBL roster is Bertuzzi usually ends up a career 3rd/4th liner. Other than that I think they nailed the current Wings to a T. Larkin is a beast in the game by age 25. The only thing I downloaded besides the TBL roster is face packs for staff and players. Basically a fan just compiled a huge database of photos so you have something to look at when you click on people. It's nice. If you buy the game through the Steam platform for PC you can just subscribe to these facepacks and rosters and they will automatically update your game as new things are added to it. It's super easy that way if you're not technically inclined. Edited June 27, 2019 by ChristopherReevesLegs 1 xault reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted June 27, 2019 31 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said: Hahaha that’s why I said if the owner saw the quantity and thought to himself I ain’t paying 20 mill in 12 months lol athanasiou if goes on another 30 goal compaign would be a nice get , reuniting the svhecnikov bro’s another ... after that wouldn’t know what to add to make a deal happen .... but again aho will stick around , Can’t see any of the rfa’s moving Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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The 91 of Ryans 3,012 Report post Posted June 27, 2019 1 minute ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Basically allowing him to return to San Jose on a team-friendly deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted June 27, 2019 Just now, The 91 of Ryans said: Basically allowing him to return to San Jose on a team-friendly deal. Yeah I think he said if SJ won't take him back he's retiring Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrie 900 Report post Posted June 27, 2019 I've been seeing articles about which teams can sign Marner. With the Leafs creating a mess with their cap signing Tavares, I can see Marner signing elsewhere. He's worth giving up four 1st round picks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted June 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, Barrie said: I've been seeing articles about which teams can sign Marner. With the Leafs creating a mess with their cap signing Tavares, I can see Marner signing elsewhere. He's worth giving up four 1st round picks. Marner isn't going anywhere. If he does, he's a f***ing idiot. He grew up a die hard Leafs fan, despite the team being s*** his entire life. He's a key piece that can finally turn that team around. At what point do you put money on the back burner, and make the decision to do something every Ontario kid (Leafs fan) fantasized doing growing up... Does anyone really think he's going to give all that up over a few millions bucks, when he's already all but guaranteed to make around 100 million in his career?... I don't... 1 amato reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted June 27, 2019 41 minutes ago, Barrie said: I've been seeing articles about which teams can sign Marner. With the Leafs creating a mess with their cap signing Tavares, I can see Marner signing elsewhere. He's worth giving up four 1st round picks. Been hearing islanders and it could be the perfect stick it to the leafs scenario lol they took Tavares and fired Lou so could be a destination but I don’t think he’s gonna leave his hometown team in the end Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted June 27, 2019 4 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said: Leafs squirming. Yup, and they still need to splurge on Marner...Whatever they have left they'll have to spend it on Johansson/Kapanen, and a handful of Dmen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted June 27, 2019 19 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said: Been hearing islanders and it could be the perfect stick it to the leafs scenario lol they took Tavares and fired Lou so could be a destination but I don’t think he’s gonna leave his hometown team in the end That would be Le Epic. 1 nyqvististhefuture reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,012 Report post Posted June 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, F.Michael said: Yup, and they still need to splurge on Marner...Whatever they have left they'll have to spend it on Johansson/Kapanen, and a handful of Dmen. Yerp. Basically if Jo/Kap both sign for what they're expected to, and Marner signs for 10M (conservative estimate) they will be 2.5M over the cap and in need of one D. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said: Yerp. Basically if Jo/Kap both sign for what they're expected to, and Marner signs for 10M (conservative estimate) they will be 2.5M over the cap and in need of one D. I hope Marner is a lil'greedy c**t, and gets $11 plus million...F**ks up the roster for the foreseeable future Edited June 27, 2019 by F.Michael 1 Akakabuto reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted June 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said: Yerp. Basically if Jo/Kap both sign for what they're expected to, and Marner signs for 10M (conservative estimate) they will be 2.5M over the cap and in need of one D. Nylander to Buffalo for Montour and a pick.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted June 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: Nylander to Buffalo for Montour and a pick.. Seems reasonable...Although if I'm Buffalo I'd rather send Bogosian to Toronto instead Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,012 Report post Posted June 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: Nylander to Buffalo for Montour and a pick.. This year's RFA and UFA spree is going to make Nylander's contract good value for the Leafs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted June 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, F.Michael said: Seems reasonable...Although if I'm Buffalo I'd rather send Bogosian to Toronto instead Absolutely. No way that gets it done though. 2 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said: This year's RFA and UFA spree is going to make Nylander's contract good value for the Leafs Maybe. I think Nylander is overrated though, and a team with Matthews, Tavares and Marner should be able to afford to trade Nylander for help on the back end... I hope this whole situation blows up in Dubas' face though... F*** the Leafs... 2 2 AtlantaHotWings, F.Michael, amato and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) Last thing I wanna do is help the leafs but in thinking of bettering ourselves first .... heard Vegas wants to get rid of Colin Miller to save cap space so surely they won’t be demanding for the moon , He’s a pretty solid d what if we got him ate 50% that would be a solid d for the leafs and at less than 2 mill x 3 Years a valuable contract which could surely get us a 2020 2nd and 2021 1st in some type of deal no? Lets get some picks already Edited June 27, 2019 by nyqvististhefuture Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: Absolutely. No way that gets it done though. Maybe. I think Nylander is overrated though, and a team with Matthews, Tavares and Marner should be able to afford to trade Nylander for help on the back end... I hope this whole situation blows up in Dubas' face though... F*** the Leafs... Yeah - that suggestion was made in jest - with Bogosian's injury history there's no way the Leafs are that dumb ... With the emergence of both Kapanen/Johnsson - Nylander should be trade bait - however it would be after he gets his bonus $$$...Too bad Dubas made the comment about keeping these guys all together...There's really no easy way outta this mess. Just remembered...Nylander's lil'bro Alex plays for the Sabres...Hmm. Edited June 27, 2019 by F.Michael 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted June 27, 2019 Completely off topic, but normally I get ads for like Staples or Arab Singles on the side-bar of this website, totally used to that... But now I'm getting ads for "Pee-Proof Underwear" and I'm wondering what I clicked on that makes google think I piss myself on a consistent basis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,741 Report post Posted June 27, 2019 I thought everybody got those. Isn’t this the online Red Wings fans community for the elderly? Because that’s what I signed up for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wheelchairsuperhero 1,453 Report post Posted June 27, 2019 2 2 TheXym, Dabura, Akakabuto and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites