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#121 sibiriak

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 01:38 PM

As a Canadian, last night's game was painful to watch. I mean at least 3 of the goals were unlucky deflections and I counted at least 3 goal posts. The shots were something like 50-20 for Canada. But really, Russia was the better team and deserved to win. Canada's game is cycling down low with an aggresive forecheck and often they were caught with 3 men iin the offensive zone which enabled the Russian dmen to get the puck out to their skilled forwards like Kuznetsov ( he had a heck of a game). Give Canada credit for battling back and they almost did it. But when you dig yourself a 6-1 hole, you can't really expect to climb out of it. I saw some quit in some of Canada's players and I can't recall the last time I saw that on any Team Canada. I was happy to see Mrazek play very well against Canada in the game against the Czechs and know he's a Wings prospect. That kid never gives up and has an excellent future. I think Russia will beat Sweden but in 1 game anything can happen. Sweden's goalie looks too shaky for my liking. I wonder who Russia comes back with in net?

I think you exaggerate about seeing "quit" in some Canadian players. I didn't see any in that 3rd period!

I bet Vasilevsky starts in the final. He was spectacular this whole toutney and the goals weren't his fault, the defense in front of him crumbled. He might have had a chance on Gormley's blue-line wrister, but he was screened pretty well. The rest were deflections, tip-ins, rebounds etc.

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 01:45 PM

I think you exaggerate about seeing "quit" in some Canadian players. I didn't see any in that 3rd period!

I bet Vasilevsky starts in the final. He was spectacular this whole toutney and the goals weren't his fault, the defense in front of him crumbled. He might have had a chance on Gormley's blue-line wrister, but he was screened pretty well. The rest were deflections, tip-ins, rebounds etc.


I was referring to the 6-1 goal which Russia scored. It seemed as if all he Canadians on the ice were beaten up ice and gave up on the play. Even Connolly alluded to that fact after the game. I think he was referring to that goal.
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 01:59 PM

I was referring to the 6-1 goal which Russia scored. It seemed as if all he Canadians on the ice were beaten up ice and gave up on the play. Even Connolly alluded to that fact after the game. I think he was referring to that goal.

Was it Beulleiux (sp?) who stopped skating? He seems to behave like a man who heard a whistle, there was a penalty being called on him. And after he realizes that the whistle hasn't blown, he has no chance to get back into play.

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 02:08 PM

There was only one occurrence of such...

Is there usually more?

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 02:16 PM

Serves Canada right, enough trying to build these "NHL" style teams. Get the most talented players on the team like the Swedes and Russians do. Of the top 10 scorers in the QMJHL, only one had an invite to camp and was cut (Zach Phillips). Of the top 10 scorers in the OHL, only 2 were invited to camp and Tyler Toffoli was cut for some reason..obviously 30 goals in 34 games isn't good enough for Team Canada. Of the top 10 scorers in the WHL only 3 were invited and Ty Rattie (the LEADING) point getter was cut 37 goals in 37 games. Give me af****** break, there's a reason the Canadian teams were so good from 2001-2009 because we always had top end offensive talent leading the team. I won't even get started on the goaltending because once again they picked the wrong 2 guys and it cost them. Maybe they'll learn next year.

As far as Russia, I hate to say it but they deserved that win, they were the better team.

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 02:34 PM

From TSN:

Canada will have to battle for the bronze medal against Finland without the services of forward Boone Jenner.

Jenner, as well as Russian defenceman Ildar Isangulov, were handed one-game suspensions by the International Ice Hockey Federation for separate incidents in Tuesday's semi-final game between the teams.
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 02:41 PM

From TSN:


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Posted 04 January 2012 - 03:05 PM

Serves Canada right, enough trying to build these "NHL" style teams. Get the most talented players on the team like the Swedes and Russians do. Of the top 10 scorers in the QMJHL, only one had an invite to camp and was cut (Zach Phillips). Of the top 10 scorers in the OHL, only 2 were invited to camp and Tyler Toffoli was cut for some reason..obviously 30 goals in 34 games isn't good enough for Team Canada. Of the top 10 scorers in the WHL only 3 were invited and Ty Rattie (the LEADING) point getter was cut 37 goals in 37 games. Give me af****** break, there's a reason the Canadian teams were so good from 2001-2009 because we always had top end offensive talent leading the team. I won't even get started on the goaltending because once again they picked the wrong 2 guys and it cost them. Maybe they'll learn next year.

As far as Russia, I hate to say it but they deserved that win, they were the better team.

Balance is important though, you don't want to have 4 lines of all skilled scorers (maybe you do?). If you want to run and gun and take your chances, maybe that's what you do, but that is a very risky game plan.

I think you do have a bit of a point though, maybe they should go a little more skilled, but I think it is important to add some perspective to the stats you referenced (i.e. only x of the top 10 scorers invited)...not all of those top 10 scorers were elibile, see below:

WHL - of the top 10, 2 are overage and 2 are non-Canadian
OHL - of the top 10, 2 are overage and 2 are non-Canadian
QMJHL - of the top 10, 4 are overage and 1 is non-Canadian

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 03:40 PM

I really hope to see Pulu step up his game in the bronze medal game. i know that sounds weird for a guy who is averaging two points a game, but now is his time to shine. Backman was one of my favorite picks and once he fills out to 200 pounds + he is going to be a beast.

Side note: in his junior days, Pulu hit everything he saw and mucked it up, but it's understandable after those shoulder injuries he has taken it easy over the past couple seasons. i hope he shows off his physicality during the second half of the Finnish season.
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 03:49 PM

Well that was nearly the greatest comebacks I've seen in a long time. Just not meant to be this year, but still very proud of the boys!!

I got to give the Russians all the credit though, they're all playing with heavy hearts. Should be a good final against the Swedes :thumbup:



I saw a complete comeback like that a year ago in the final :)

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 08:20 PM

Fourteen consecutive years. Congratulations to Team Canada!

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 08:27 PM

Took more than 10 minutes for Russia to get their first shot on goal in the game.

Sweden just dominating. Makes me a bit nervous that the Russian goalie is playing so well though.. and the skilled Russians can all of a sudden wake up and strike.

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 09:25 PM

39-4 the shots are.

Crazy.

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 09:37 PM

39-4 the shots are.

Crazy.


Its incredible that the game is still tied.

3rd period on...
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Posted 05 January 2012 - 09:39 PM

39-4 the shots are.

Crazy.


I just heard them say that on NHL Live....that's almost unbelievable, especially because it's the only team that defeated Canada in this tourney.
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Posted 05 January 2012 - 09:44 PM

Crazy sequence there... giveaway, breakaway, Sweden runs the goalie, goalie down.
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Posted 05 January 2012 - 09:46 PM

39-4 the shots are.

Crazy.


Wings fans know how problematic outshooting the other team can be if you don't score.
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Posted 05 January 2012 - 09:48 PM

Crazy sequence there... giveaway, breakaway, Sweden runs the goalie, goalie down.


Ferraro says Rakell made no effort to stop... I disagree (am I gaining some Swedish bias?)

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 09:50 PM

Ferraro says Rakell made no effort to stop... I disagree (am I gaining some Swedish bias?)


I agree. After watching the few replays, there wasn't much he could do.

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 09:51 PM

I didn't see the first two periods, but the third is awesome! Were the first two this good?

How awesome would it be for Russia to beat Sweden after being down like that? And for the record, I want Russia to win because the Canadians are rooting for the Swedes because Russia beat Canada. How's that for spite? :cool:

Edited by rrasco, 05 January 2012 - 09:55 PM.

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