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#1 newfy

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 12:13 AM

He played a really good game against the Blues tonight and was VERY physical I thought. I dont really see a difference between what he provides and what Kindl does to be honest.

I also found it weird how we have all been harping on guys like Ericcson and Abdelkader to toughen up out there, tonight they were all mixing it up and playing tough.

Commodore had a run taken at him, and ABdelkader went and gave Crombeen a shot and next thing you know gloves were on the ice ( refs jumped in).

It just seemed like this team was playing a bit tougher when this guy is out there, I know its a small sample size but when stepping up against a team like the Blues who I hate happens, I cant help but notice. I didnt catch the calgary game but read that he played solid as well and asked Jackman to drop the gloves a couple times as well. There was another time when Ericcson was giving someone a shot infront of Howard when he had it covered, and Commie cam right over and got in there. This team never swarms guys like that but Commie has the right mentality.Commodore in the lineup happened right after Jimmy was complaining about getting hit, I dont think its a secret why hes in there and it seems like having him will most likely lead to a more team tough mentality.

Once he gets into a couple more games itll be better to judge but he has looked good so far, glad to see hes taking his opportunity and going with it :clap:

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 12:16 AM

Meh, he gets beat way too easily. I'd rather have Kindl in over him, but wouldn't mind he and E swapping games.
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Posted 28 December 2011 - 12:38 AM

Meh, he gets beat way too easily. I'd rather have Kindl in over him, but wouldn't mind he and E swapping games.

What has Kindl done this year really? He plays sheltered minutes and only even strength. DO you honestly think he would look better than Ericcson if he was eating up E's PK time? I sure dont

As for Commodore, he didnt get beat once tonight and is probably just starting to get back in game shape really after a solid preseason. I think theres no real difference between Kindl and Commodore just that Commodore is tougher to play against he had 3 or 4 pretty big hits tonights

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 01:14 AM

I like Commy doing well and hope he gets some more chances.

I like Kindl too, though. He has been very solid this year. Good problems to have. :thumbup:
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Posted 28 December 2011 - 01:20 AM

I'd prefer the 3 of Ericsson, Kindl and Commodore consistently rotating until the top two really differentiate themselves before the playoffs. I'd like all these guys getting a fair amount of games in prep for the playoffs, where injuries are likely to happen.
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Posted 28 December 2011 - 05:50 AM

As for Commodore, he didnt get beat once tonight

If I remember correctly he was the main culprit on the Blues' 2-on-1 that ended with Jimmy's pad-stacking sliding save.
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Posted 28 December 2011 - 06:37 AM

He played a really good game against the Blues tonight and was VERY physical I thought. I dont really see a difference between what he provides and what Kindl does to be honest.

I also found it weird how we have all been harping on guys like Ericcson and Abdelkader to toughen up out there, tonight they were all mixing it up and playing tough.

Commodore had a run taken at him, and ABdelkader went and gave Crombeen a shot and next thing you know gloves were on the ice ( refs jumped in).

It just seemed like this team was playing a bit tougher when this guy is out there, I know its a small sample size but when stepping up against a team like the Blues who I hate happens, I cant help but notice. I didnt catch the calgary game but read that he played solid as well and asked Jackman to drop the gloves a couple times as well. There was another time when Ericcson was giving someone a shot infront of Howard when he had it covered, and Commie cam right over and got in there. This team never swarms guys like that but Commie has the right mentality.Commodore in the lineup happened right after Jimmy was complaining about getting hit, I dont think its a secret why hes in there and it seems like having him will most likely lead to a more team tough mentality.

Once he gets into a couple more games itll be better to judge but he has looked good so far, glad to see hes taking his opportunity and going with it :clap:


...do you mean offensively? Because the rest of your entire post describes what Commodore brings to this team over Kindl. :lol:

If I remember correctly he was the main culprit on the Blues' 2-on-1 that ended with Jimmy's pad-stacking sliding save.

The Wings have given up TONS of odd-man rushes thus far, it's hard to be at fault when you are in the press box. I think that is something that is a team problem and really does need to be addressed.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 06:52 AM

He is the closest thing we have to an enforcer. A defensive defenseman who is at least mostly responsible in his own zone and can and will drop the gloves and can fight well is a luxury that the Wings have seldom had this millennium.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 08:06 AM

I'd take Kindl all day, every day.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 12:34 PM

I'd take Kindl all day, every day.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 12:48 PM

I'd prefer the 3 of Ericsson, Kindl and Commodore consistently rotating until the top two really differentiate themselves before the playoffs. I'd like all these guys getting a fair amount of games in prep for the playoffs, where injuries are likely to happen.


I want to see the same thing.

None of these guys "deserve" to be in the lineup every night.
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Posted 28 December 2011 - 01:22 PM

I think we have all seen by now that Ericsson will never be sitting in the press box, unless for injury reasons. Although sometimes I think he should, it is clear that the coaches will not sit him.

Kindl is a good skating, puck moving defenseman who needs to work on his D-zone play. He has been more physical this year which is a good sign. He has good size and this is only his 2nd year in the league. He still has a lot of room to grow.

Commodore has pretty much established his game as a hard hitting, defensive specialist with very little offensive abilities. He does fill a void in this Red Wings team, however he brings a much different skill set than Kindl.

Like someone previously mentioned, these are good problems to have :thumbup:

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 01:42 PM

HE wasn't that physical at all. Kindl is regularly more physical in fact. He had a golden opportunity in the 3rd and shot it about 10 ft wide. What he needs to be doing is dropping the mitts and he hasn't been that great defensively. I don't know what you are seeing. And Datsyuk was the cog of the physical play last night, and no one else.
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Posted 28 December 2011 - 01:43 PM

Meh, he gets beat way too easily. I'd rather have Kindl in over him, but wouldn't mind he and E swapping games.

I know you have a hate on for E but really? Ericsson is a better defenseman than Kindl. He just is...even if you think he sucks. I think Commie adds a physical dimension to this team that we need and he is not afraid to stick up for anyone or get his nose dirty and so far, he has played as well as Kindl in the last few games.
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Posted 28 December 2011 - 01:55 PM

I could be wrong, but I have this theory that Commodore playing with Ericsson adds a little stability to E's game. When he plays with Kindl, they both look like a couple of rookies out there, but with Commie out there, at least he's got some experience in the NHL, and Ericsson seems more confident in his game by having someone else with a little confidence playing with him. I like Kindl, but I wouldn't mind going with Commie for a while. I wish he would play up that aggressiveness a little, but we'll see what happens on Friday.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 02:26 PM

With out a doubt Commodore played his best game as a Wing. He hasn't had much playing time so far and hasn't played very well when he has gotten a chance until last night and that is probably do to the fact that he hasn't had an opportunity to play much and get used to playing the Wings game. I would love to see him play more if he is going to play like he did last night and improve on that play. To be honest I'm tired of watching Erickson play like crap and would love to see some one to improve enough to take his spot or at least push him into playing better.
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Posted 28 December 2011 - 03:23 PM

I think Commie will stand out against physical teams like Dallas, STL, Nashville, and maybe even against a balanced team like CHI; but the offensive minded teams (VAN, SJ, COL) should be met with offensive players (Kindl).

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 03:28 PM

HE wasn't that physical at all. Kindl is regularly more physical in fact. He had a golden opportunity in the 3rd and shot it about 10 ft wide. What he needs to be doing is dropping the mitts and he hasn't been that great defensively. I don't know what you are seeing. And Datsyuk was the cog of the physical play last night, and no one else.

What the hell game were you watching? I guess you see what you want to see because Commie in his limited ice time was throwing the body a lot. Datsyuk pops Jackman once under the chin and all of a sudden hes the cog of the physical play? He does well for himself physically, but if Datsyuk is this teams cog to being physical than something isnt right.

Kindl being more physical is a joke though, get your eyes checked :rolleyes:

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 04:26 PM

Btw, is he growing that afro he was talking about before the season?
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Posted 28 December 2011 - 05:20 PM

Commodore played very well... in fact better than big "E" last night.
He brings physical dimension that Detroit is missing big time (ask Howard about it).
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