Tortorella fined 30k for WC comments
Posted 05 January 2012 - 12:33 PM
Posted 05 January 2012 - 12:43 PM
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Posted 05 January 2012 - 01:08 PM
Also, this isn't an NHL only thing, I'm pretty sure you'd get a fine for the same thing in any professional sporting league.
It's just that the amount is absurd.
Edited by Jocke, 05 January 2012 - 01:09 PM.
Posted 05 January 2012 - 10:22 PM
"Our refs get it right 99% of the time"
The League has the best officiating of any sport. Just ask Bettman; he'll tell you.
I don't want coaches to be fines for bitching about the reffing and individual calls, but can see the point of fining them for questioning the integrity of the game... And I also see the point in Torts saying it anyway.
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Posted 06 January 2012 - 10:22 PM
I can recall two Saints games down here in the NFL where the officiating was just so pathetic. I had to stop watching one of those two games for a while because it was so awful.
Same in college, my alma mater upset Boise State on their turf this season, one of the worst officiated games I've seen in my life. Also another game where we were favored but loss/got upset, while we didn't take care of business the refs playing a much bigger factor than necessary in determining the outcome. That absolutely drives me nuts.
But I digress.
Could Tortorella have said things behind closed doors? Sure. Should he have? Probably. Do I blame him for being frustrated about it and saying it in public? No. Not really supporting it or condoning it. It's not the first time it has happened and it won't be the last. Just shows how horrible the officiating can be.
Just don't understand why officials in all leagues have to be treated with special kid gloves and cannot be critiqued in public. I hate using the officiating excuse as to why my team might have lost but I'm not going to hesitate in saying if they blew a big call or playing a bigger hand in a game outcome.
Posted 06 January 2012 - 10:56 PM
Posted 07 January 2012 - 06:43 AM
Posted 07 January 2012 - 01:59 PM
it'd be absolutely right to keep it private. If it was internal/private company issue.
In this case, both coaches and ref are (so to speak) league's employees. Now, who are customers? I think, we are, fans.
If there are issues with reffing, that means we are getting bad product. Worse, anybody who rises concern gets punished. End even worse, when league publicly admits employee made a mistake, the employee never gets punished.
And finally, as a result, the product doesn't get better, it gets worse.
I think you summed up why it's a problem to have coaches calling out the officials and league in public. As you said, the public are the customers. If you screwed up at work, would you want your coworkers to call customers and announce that you were not doing your job correctly, and might be scamming them, or should that kind of thing happen behind the scenes? If this happened to you, I can guarantee your first stop would be HR, and I'd imagine it's the same here. Notice how coaches never say "Bryzgalov just screwed everything up, he's terrible, and it was a huge mistake for us to sign him." That's just not how things work in a business.
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Posted 07 January 2012 - 02:17 PM
Posted 07 January 2012 - 03:34 PM
If they didn't fine, how many whiny coaches/owners/players/managers/ice girls/mascots would be rushing to complain to the press about every perceived unfairness?
As things stand right now, if you've got a 30k complaint, you've got a real complaint. It makes the sound bites and people actually listen.
Edited by 55fan, 07 January 2012 - 03:34 PM.
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Posted 07 January 2012 - 06:28 PM
I sometimes wonder if it's not because the reffing sucks is that they are told they have to call the game a certain way.
Depends on what would mean by "certain way".
Posted 07 January 2012 - 06:57 PM
Depends on what would mean by "certain way".
I would guess something like "get it to overtime". Certainly seemed that way.
Edited by Jocke, 07 January 2012 - 06:57 PM.
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