newfy 695 Report post Posted January 9, 2012 I may be one of the few but I think going for someones knees is worse than a headshot personally. Youre brought up to not do that. This is what you get if you make a habit of targetting knees, s*** can end a career http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao1cMIGBf4s 1 Finnish Wing reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted January 9, 2012 I don't know about a suspension, but a fine should be levied. Salo wasn't coming in hot and had his elbows down. Dirty knee check. Agreed. the 5 and game he got was enough and throw a fine on it for good measure. Because it's Marchand and Salo got hurt though, I'm guessing he'll get a couple games. I don't think he was running at Salo's knees, but he bailed out of being hit and got way too low for it to be a good hip check. Nucks fans were bitching about him not even trying to play the puck, but Salo wasn't either. 1 syntax reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted January 9, 2012 I don't know about a suspension, but a fine should be levied. Salo wasn't coming in hot and had his elbows down. Dirty knee check. And this, I could agree with 100%... I just don't see how it warrants a suspension... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozen-Man 144 Report post Posted January 9, 2012 You can call it well timed I guess..we can argue about this all day but it's clear Marchand's intended point of contact was very low. If I was smarter I would post come videos of some quality hit checks from youtube but that is way out of my technical area. Its a fine line with hip checks, lots of factors to determine like point of contact, size of the people involved etc... - I find this one similar to the Marchand hit..very low - I think this is text book even though it's on a Wing, hip to hip Interesting that you showed Ballard as an example of a good hip check, he was asked about the Marchand hit and here is what he had to say: Keith Ballard is one of the best hip-checkers and has been called for clipping because the league obviously wants to avoid serious knee injuries. But in a puck-possession play against Jordin Tootoo on April 28, Ballard was assessed a two-minute minor for clipping. Whether that action and what Marchand did are in the same clipping category is what the league needs to better define."Normally when I do that, the guy has the puck and the guy is coming down on me and trying to beat me," Ballard said of his hip-checking ability. "There is a difference and anybody who says there's not a difference is an idiot." *** And yes I realize Ballard is not unbiased as he is Salo's teammate.*** Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted January 9, 2012 IT wasnt a cheap hit since Marchand had the puck. He also didn't go too low in my opinion. Watch the Scuderi hit on Chimera, now that is a clip. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WorkingOvertime 536 Report post Posted January 9, 2012 Agreed. the 5 and game he got was enough and throw a fine on it for good measure. Because it's Marchand and Salo got hurt though, I'm guessing he'll get a couple games. I don't think he was running at Salo's knees, but he bailed out of being hit and got way too low for it to be a good hip check. Nucks fans were bitching about him not even trying to play the puck, but Salo wasn't either. I agree. It was a dirty play, but I think 5 and a game plus a fine are enough. To me, there is a very blurred line between a hip check and a clip and I wouldn't want to job of determining what is and is not a hip check. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,522 Report post Posted January 9, 2012 I'm not sure how much lower he needs to go in order to consider this a clip...maybe if he were crawling on all fours, or perhaps touched his nose to Salo's laces. 1 dobbles reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rrasco 1,312 Report post Posted January 9, 2012 and you're ignorant if you can't see HOW he's at least partially responsible... I never put the SOLE onus of the outcome on Salo, don't put words in my mouth... Your words: How is Salo NOT responsible? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
syntax 359 Report post Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) Some of you need to watch the clip again. Anything lower than about this height (yes I know, different angle blahblahblah) IS A CLIP (see IILeiBlazeII's post above [Clipping]. Since there is an obvious double standard for the Bruins...I doubt he will be suspended, though he should get 3 games. Edited January 9, 2012 by syntax Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted January 9, 2012 It wasn't a good hockey play at all. It was a cheap shot end of discussion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted January 9, 2012 Marchand should be suspended just for having such an annoying face. He acts tough because he knows he's backed up by such a tough team. I'd like to see this ***** pull his antics in another uniform. 1 Zeowingsfan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rrasco 1,312 Report post Posted January 9, 2012 Marchand should be suspended just for having such an annoying face. He acts tough because he knows he's backed up by such a tough team. I'd like to see this ***** pull his antics in another uniform. That's funny, during the broadcast one of the commentators made mention that Pouliot never acted so tough before he played with the Bruins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Sample 31 Report post Posted January 9, 2012 Marchand gets 5 games Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bar Down 107 Report post Posted January 9, 2012 Marchand gets 5 games Yikes. Pretty steep. I would have thought 2-3 games max. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,522 Report post Posted January 9, 2012 Brendan's video explanation is pretty good, I don't really see how anybody could argue it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holliday 1,888 Report post Posted January 9, 2012 His explanation makes sense. Not a huge deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Wings Addict 787 Report post Posted January 9, 2012 Marchand should be suspended just for having such an annoying face. Marchand gets 5 games I think 4 1/2 of those games are just because of his annoying ugly face. The other half might be for his weasel demeanor. Oh and this picture reminds me of the Wings fans laughing at Selanne. Except that one guy seems to be grimacing. 1 Bar Down reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Crazy 201 Report post Posted January 9, 2012 I don't have the link to the Shanny Video but he explains his reasons well. Targeting knees cannot happen and with Marchands history I say good call! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Wings Addict 787 Report post Posted January 9, 2012 I don't have the link to the Shanny Video but he explains his reasons well. Targeting knees cannot happen and with Marchands history I say good call! NHL.com always has it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,522 Report post Posted January 9, 2012 What killed Marchand's credibility is the fact that the exact same play happened less than 20 seconds before the clip and Marchand didn't feel the need to "instinctively" crouch down...that and he retaliated after the first hit as well. Not really too hard for Shanny to see through the bulls*** on that one. 1 troubadour reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
syntax 359 Report post Posted January 9, 2012 Wow. I figured 2-3 games....but I'm fine with this since Marchand is slew-footing s***head. Suspension Video: http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=60&id=148388 Followup: Suspension 1 vladdy16 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Wings Addict 787 Report post Posted January 9, 2012 Suspension Video Every time I watch one of those I always think that moving star in the background of the bullet point portion of the video is like a presentation effect so that the star will come forward and explode into the bullet point text. If that makes any sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P. Marlowe 748 Report post Posted January 9, 2012 "Five games?!" "F U Shanahan!" 1 Ram reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted January 10, 2012 I think it's too many games. But with Salo being concussed and the player involved being Marchand, who's been suspended for elbowing and fined for slew-footing, 5 games isn't going to keep me up at night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
malts85 4 Report post Posted January 10, 2012 So correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this hit similar to the one Marchand gave Salo? The only difference I saw was Subban kind of turned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
