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Marchand Suspended 5 games

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I think it's too many games. But with Salo being concussed and the player involved being Marchand, who's been suspended for elbowing and fined for slew-footing, 5 games isn't going to keep me up at night.

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So correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this hit similar to the one Marchand gave Salo? The only difference I saw was Subban kind of turned.

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So correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this hit similar to the one Marchand gave Salo? The only difference I saw was Subban kind of turned.

well for starters, Ovechkin didn't drive shoulder first into Subban's knee as you can see Marchand doing here

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, and in live video here...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GN2cFZ1oMA.

Ovi's is a hip check, legs extended, torso parallel to the ice surface, etc. Marchand's was a deliberate targeting of the knee, as per Shanny's explanation seen here, http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=60&id=148388

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Eh, I've watched this a million times. The first time I saw it, I was surprised it was a penalty. It looks like Salo tries to hit him, he ducks and Salo goes flying over him. When you slow it down it looks like maybe Marchand is trying to lay down a hip check on Salo. I don't know. 5 games is too steep for a play, that I thought, looked fine at regular speed.

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Ok...My take on this...At the start of this longer video of the hit - we see #6 Salo, and #63 Marchand tangle along the boards...They seperate...Puck comes around once more along the boards...Both players going for it - although at the last second Marchand dips his shoulder, and submarines Salo.

Now at the 1:58 mark - in slow motion I see Marchand duck down, and Salo turns slightly as though he's bracing for impact...The point of contact isn't so much Marchand's shoulder to Salo's knee...IMHO it's more of Marchand's shoulder/upper back into Salo's left thigh/hamstring (2:13 of the vid).

I personally won't lose any sleep over Shanahan's decision; I honestly would've been shocked had there wasn't a suspension...For those calling out Marchand as a little weasel - yeah he has some of those qualities, but he's also stood up for himself by fighting Subban/Niskanen/Cogliano.

I may get flamed for saying this, but I'd love to have Marchand on the Red Wings...Just like Perry - he'd be "our" little douchebag for others to hate.

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I'm not ready to say the guy is a weasel, or a dirty player, but I think it was kind of a dirty play and honestly, I sometimes like dirty play, particularly from guys who you expect it from. I was always a big Maltby and Chelios fan, so I'd be a hypocrite if I condemned the guy for a dirty play, but he got caught and now he has to do the time.

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Marchand's not a bad guy,

I'll have to disagree with that. He is a talented little s*** who is not a stranger of cheap shots (along with the rest of the Boston team).

Anyone have a video of the game in Boston last year where Marchand tried to fight Eaves in a Wing's blowout and Eaves was like "get the f*** out of here"?

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All I know is I had one very p.o.'d housemate last night. We're trying to watch tv, and all of a sudden I hear a loud, blue streak of words. Terry and I looked at each other and said, "What the hell?" I know not to question the source of the words.

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All I know is I had one very p.o.'d housemate last night. We're trying to watch tv, and all of a sudden I hear a loud, blue streak of words. Terry and I looked at each other and said, "What the hell?" I know not to question the source of the words.

Was sumthin' Bruin up a storm in the house?

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I'm not ready to say the guy is a weasel, or a dirty player, but I think it was kind of a dirty play and honestly, I sometimes like dirty play, particularly from guys who you expect it from. I was always a big Maltby and Chelios fan, so I'd be a hypocrite if I condemned the guy for a dirty play, but he got caught and now he has to do the time.

It's guys like Marchand that keep us fans at the edge of our seat by getting his nose dirty, and mixing it up...He's not yet in the category of dirty such as Cooke/Lemieux/Pronger/Sammuelsson, but like you said he's def a Maltby type - although alot more skilled.

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I get the feeling a lot if people didn't play hockey and don't appreciate how dirty this play really is. Im ok with 5, just wanted him suspended.

I've played. The hit is certainly dirty. If suspensions are based on danger, is this hit more dangerous than the hit on Abby last week? I would say Marchand was 'dirtier', but I don't think it was as dangerous.

I would have liked the NHL video to mention the difference between the play in question and a clean hip check. Obviously the knees are important in the rule book, and I would have liked to see this difference explained further.

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It's guys like Marchand that keep us fans at the edge of our seat by getting his nose dirty, and mixing it up...He's not yet in the category of dirty such as Cooke/Lemieux/Pronger/Sammuelsson, but like you said he's def a Maltby type - although alot more skilled.

Agreed.

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I don't know that I'd want him on the Wings, but I did laugh when he did this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEh53OWz0jU

C'mon Daniel, even Franzen has a point where he'll pop a guy for screwing with him. You're gonna just take jabs from the little weasel?

C'mon now Harold - we all know you'd be the 1st in line to get your #63 Marchand jersey if he found his way to Detroit, and I'd be standing right behind ya ;)

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Marchand should be suspended just for having such an annoying face.

He acts tough because he knows he's backed up by such a tough team. I'd like to see this ***** pull his antics in a Wings uniform.

Fixed :hehe:

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Ok...My take on this...At the start of this longer video of the hit - we see #6 Salo, and #63 Marchand tangle along the boards...They seperate...Puck comes around once more along the boards...Both players going for it - although at the last second Marchand dips his shoulder, and submarines Salo.

Now at the 1:58 mark - in slow motion I see Marchand duck down, and Salo turns slightly as though he's bracing for impact...The point of contact isn't so much Marchand's shoulder to Salo's knee...IMHO it's more of Marchand's shoulder/upper back into Salo's left thigh/hamstring (2:13 of the vid).

I personally won't lose any sleep over Shanahan's decision; I honestly would've been shocked had there wasn't a suspension...For those calling out Marchand as a little weasel - yeah he has some of those qualities, but he's also stood up for himself by fighting Subban/Niskanen/Cogliano.

I may get flamed for saying this, but I'd love to have Marchand on the Red Wings...Just like Perry - he'd be "our" little douchebag for others to hate.

The Wings don't have anyone to back Marchand's actions. He'd get murdered if he played for the Wings.

But as I said earlier, I think he'd be a lot more timid in a different uniform. This retard ***** just acts tough because they have many fighters on their team to protect him.

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The Wings don't have anyone to back Marchand's actions. He'd get murdered if he played for the Wings.

But as I said earlier, I think he'd be a lot more timid in a different uniform. This retard ***** just acts tough because they have many fighters on their team to protect him.

This phenomena is known as the "Maltby effect" :lol:

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This phenomena is known as the "Maltby effect" :lol:

Maltby was annoying, but I've honestly never thought of him as a dirty or cheap player. Kind of like Holmstrom. He yaps a lot and gets on people's nerves, but I don't remember him trying to end someone's season or anything like that.

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You know what, good on him. I don't really like Marchand, but 5 games was far too much, in my opinion. Was it dirty? Yeah, but after looking at the video a few times, a major and a game misconduct was enough.

At the end of that article, the word "soft"..starts so many conversations on LGW :lol:

Maltby was annoying, but I've honestly never thought of him as a dirty or cheap player. Kind of like Holmstrom. He yaps a lot and gets on people's nerves, but I don't remember him trying to end someone's season or anything like that.

Guys got annoyed with him because he finished every check, hacked and whacked, and he had a smart mouth, but he never threw any cheapshots.

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Maltby was annoying, but I've honestly never thought of him as a dirty or cheap player. Kind of like Holmstrom. He yaps a lot and gets on people's nerves, but I don't remember him trying to end someone's season or anything like that.

Well - IMO Marchand has yet to prove to be at the same level of dirty as Matt Cooke, Dan Carcillo, or Chris Pronger - yet he's still young, and there's always that possibility.

I don't recall ever seeing Maltby drop his gloves, and "man up" for his actions (although he has fought back when in a scrum, or if he got jumped); Marchand on the other hand has answered the bell a few times in his young career.

Maltby was at his best when McCarty, or Kocur were out there with him, and as you've pointed out having a tough team behind him gives Marchand the balls to "play a few inches taller"...IMHO there's nothing wrong with that; it's a primary reason why it's not such a bad idea to have a few guys on the bench whom are willing, and able to drop the mitts...That attitude can be infectious, and it's fun as hell not only to watch your team beat them on the scoreboard, but it's also fun watching your team beat'em up as well.

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