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#21 GoWings1905

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 11:45 AM

The sudden anti-Zetterberg attitude on these forums is beginning to sicken me. How the guy went from untouchable to trade-worthy in the eyes of fans is beyond me. I shudder.


No kidding. Everyone will be back on board in April when Z dominates the playoffs like usual.
 
 
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 11:49 AM

Hudler for Captain! "Dont forgetta stairs buddy!"

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 12:01 PM

The sudden anti-Zetterberg attitude on these forums is beginning to sicken me. How the guy went from untouchable to trade-worthy in the eyes of fans is beyond me. I shudder.


Yeah I remember a few years ago people wanting to trade Datsyuk because he would not produce in the playoffs.

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 12:43 PM

Who in the Detroit media or on this forum would object to Datsyuk being captain because his English isn't that good?

For that matter, who on the team would be upset? They seem OK with Datsyuk wearing the "A" and he leads well by example. Where are these complaints stemming from?
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 01:22 PM

Personally I think that Hank is a better leader all around. So I prefer him getting it.
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 01:32 PM

Who in the Detroit media or on this forum would object to Datsyuk being captain because his English isn't that good?

For that matter, who on the team would be upset? They seem OK with Datsyuk wearing the "A" and he leads well by example. Where are these complaints stemming from?

I don't think anyone is really complaining. But Datsyuk generally seems softspoken and doesn't speak English very well. Not that Zetterberg relishes the spotlight, but I think he's more comfortable with it. I could understand wanting Z to talk to refs over Dats, and lead press conferences.

Saying Z should be captain over him isn't a slight to Datsyuk. The star player on the team doesn't always have to be the one wearing the C. I'd rather someone else have that job and let Pavel keep doing his thing.

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 02:10 PM

Let's say the trade rumors are true (Z and Hudler for Iginla and Camalleri) I still don't know. Pavel seems to be stepping up his leadership presence.


In which alternate dimension are there rumors of this absurd trade?

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 02:23 PM

Who in the Detroit media or on this forum would object to Datsyuk being captain because his English isn't that good?

For that matter, who on the team would be upset? They seem OK with Datsyuk wearing the "A" and he leads well by example. Where are these complaints stemming from?


Nobody is complaining. Everyone in the NHL loves Datsyuk. Including the fans. The matter just comes down to communicating. He may lead by example, but he still needs to be able to talk to players, resolve conflicts, handle the refs and speak to the media on a regular basis. He's a great leader but he wouldn't be an effective captain.

EDIT: Not in America or Canada anyway. In Russia he'd be a great captain.

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 02:54 PM

The next Wings captain after Lids will be Steven Weiss :ph34r:

That trade's happening right? It has to given that the news came from Holland's neighbor's landscaper's cousin's ex-college roommate right?

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 02:57 PM

The next Wings captain after Lids will be Steven Weiss :ph34r:

That trade's happening right? It has to given that the news came from Holland's neighbor's landscaper's cousin's ex-college roommate right?


Yeah I think Holland told Dark Helmet, who told Lonestar, then he told me. :hehe:
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 03:03 PM

When Lidstrom retires, who will be the Wings next captain? The last few years everyone has said Zetterberg. I have a feeling that Kronwall will be the next captain. Datsyuk and Zetterberg will wear the "A".

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There's no question it should be either Datsyuk or Zetterberg. If we had this discussion in the summer of 2008 I'd say Zetterberg is the best choice for captain but it's 2012 and things have changed. Zetterberg's still a leader on this team but Datsyuk shouldn't be discounted either. Based on play it'd have to be Datsyuk, based on media popularity and league-wide recognition you'd pick Datsyuk as well. Leadership? I don't really know since I'm not in the locker room. I do know that Dats sets the tone on the ice each night like a captain should and he does all the right things every night. In my eyes, it's Datsyuk's consistency that sets him above Zetterberg but in the end the C is about leadership both on the ice and in the locker room (and I'm not privy to the second part).
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 03:09 PM

Zetterberg is my guess. Hudler for future Wal-Mart greeter.

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 03:17 PM

The sudden anti-Zetterberg attitude on these forums is beginning to sicken me. How the guy went from untouchable to trade-worthy in the eyes of fans is beyond me. I shudder.


Knee-jerk reactions to everything. OMG, Z hasn't put up 40 goals, let's trade him!

All the trade talk about Z (me thinks) stems from that thread someone started yesterday about somebody's brother's neighbor's friend's uncle's unborn fetus's cousin's father lives by Ken Holland and he has 'inside information'.

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 05:05 PM

The next Wings captain after Lids will be Steven Weiss :ph34r:

That trade's happening right? It has to given that the news came from Holland's neighbor's landscaper's cousin's ex-college roommate right?


Holland's nephew's teacher's cousin's parole officer told me that it was shot down.

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 05:06 PM

I kinda hope it's Pasha.
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 05:20 PM

There's no question it should be either Datsyuk or Zetterberg. If we had this discussion in the summer of 2008 I'd say Zetterberg is the best choice for captain but it's 2012 and things have changed. Zetterberg's still a leader on this team but Datsyuk shouldn't be discounted either. Based on play it'd have to be Datsyuk, based on media popularity and league-wide recognition you'd pick Datsyuk as well. Leadership? I don't really know since I'm not in the locker room. I do know that Dats sets the tone on the ice each night like a captain should and he does all the right things every night. In my eyes, it's Datsyuk's consistency that sets him above Zetterberg but in the end the C is about leadership both on the ice and in the locker room (and I'm not privy to the second part).

I agree well said

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 05:23 PM

There's no question it should be either Datsyuk or Zetterberg. If we had this discussion in the summer of 2008 I'd say Zetterberg is the best choice for captain but it's 2012 and things have changed. Zetterberg's still a leader on this team but Datsyuk shouldn't be discounted either. Based on play it'd have to be Datsyuk, based on media popularity and league-wide recognition you'd pick Datsyuk as well. Leadership? I don't really know since I'm not in the locker room. I do know that Dats sets the tone on the ice each night like a captain should and he does all the right things every night. In my eyes, it's Datsyuk's consistency that sets him above Zetterberg but in the end the C is about leadership both on the ice and in the locker room (and I'm not privy to the second part).


100% agree. 2009 and before you'd have thought it was Zetterberg's gig, but these past few years it just feels like it belongs to Datsyuk IMO. I can understand him not getting it though if communication is that big of a deal.


Holland's nephew's teacher's cousin's parole officer told me that it was shot down.


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Posted 14 January 2012 - 01:22 AM

Zetterberg is my guess. Hudler for future Wal-Mart greeter.


Hudler's on pace for 23g and 51pts. By all means-- disparage him. But you're still painfully wrong.
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Posted 14 January 2012 - 01:31 AM

The sudden anti-Zetterberg attitude on these forums is beginning to sicken me. How the guy went from untouchable to trade-worthy in the eyes of fans is beyond me. I shudder.


Possibly just some underachieving regular seasons as of late. However Z has been great when it comes to the playoffs, it looks like he's just coasting through the season and then stepping up for the playoffs.

Yeah I remember a few years ago people wanting to trade Datsyuk because he would not produce in the playoffs.


I remember reading a trade Lids thread during the middle of the 09-10 season and some said they'd trade Datsyuk for the right price.

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 02:44 AM

Possibly just some underachieving regular seasons as of late.


What, like 80 points in 80 games last season? And 70 in 74 the season before? What about 73 in 77 before that? The last time Zetterberg had a poor regular season was before the lockout. So nay, what you're talking about is a substandard ONE-HALF of a regular season.

I remember reading a trade Lids thread during the middle of the 09-10 season and some said they'd trade Datsyuk for the right price.


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