Brad Stuart to the West Coast?
#41
Posted 17 January 2012 - 02:32 PM
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#42
Posted 17 January 2012 - 02:57 PM
Matt Greene
Willie Mitchell
Douglas Murray
Sheldon Brookbank
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#43
Posted 17 January 2012 - 03:37 PM
#44
Posted 17 January 2012 - 03:48 PM
Defenseman from California I'd like to get in return for Stuart:
Matt Greene
Willie Mitchell
Douglas Murray
Sheldon Brookbank
thats why im saying get a package done for Bobby Ryan and Brookbank,...Stuart,Hudler picks/prospects....or something
#45
Posted 17 January 2012 - 04:08 PM
and I mean youngsters who are expected to become regular 2nd liners or 2nd pair D-men. so, yes, if Kenny has a good option, I definitely think it is at
least worth considering. it sure isn't the best thing to weaken our defense corps that aren't exactly league's best right now, but if there was a chance
of Nick coming back next season trading Stuart it's absolutely worth considering. with Howie in goal we have the luxury to go with weaker defense.
on the other hand - at this point Wings seem to be pretty deep with prospects and they're more likely to be shipping picks/youngsters for star players
not the other way around. and I certainly don't see them trading quality players with Sharks. maybe with Kings but that's still tough call. then I don't see
Ducks having decent D to trade for prospects. Beauchemin is OK, but it'd take something extra to trade Stuart for him... and since they're not a playoff
team right now, it's tough to imagine them being prone to milking at trade deadline
#46
Posted 17 January 2012 - 05:00 PM
I don't like Douglas Murray. That dude is slower than s***, and it gets him on trouble a lot.
He's Swedish, he hits like a truck, he clears the crease.
What more do you want him to do?
#47
Posted 17 January 2012 - 05:18 PM
To Detroit : Hemsky, Gilbert and Jones
get it done Kenny!
#48
Posted 17 January 2012 - 05:28 PM
But during the following season, I picked up on his more quiet natured personality. He is kind of a hard guy to read. But he has won that Cup, been on successful teams, and has gotten paid handsomely now for a few good contracts. Keep socking away that money Stuey! I am not mad at you. I just hope we can get something in return.
Tell you what Dan Boyle for Stuey and Erricson right now! Come on....
#49
Posted 17 January 2012 - 06:24 PM
He's Swedish, he hits like a truck, he clears the crease.
What more do you want him to do?
Not Swedish enough
#50
Posted 17 January 2012 - 09:56 PM
Lidstrom-White
Kronwall-Ericsson
Kindl-Commodore/Smith
I know most people would disagree with Ericsson being in the top 4, but he's certainly being paid like one so maybe thats what the wings believe his future will be.
If Anaheim still wants to move Bobby Ryan, I would give up Stuart and some combination of picks/prospects.
#51
Posted 18 January 2012 - 01:36 AM
Not sure what "prices" you mean. White for a 2nd. Brewer for a 3rd and a weak prospect. McCabe for a 3rd and weak prospect. Wideman for a 3rd and a weak prospect. Allen for Samsonov. Klesla for Lepisto and Upshall. Mark Stuart and Wheeler for Peverley and a crap defenseman...let's get honest for a while. with the trade deadline "prices" of recent years player like Stuart can land Wings a ton of high draft picks or quality prospects.
and I mean youngsters who are expected to become regular 2nd liners or 2nd pair D-men. so, yes, if Kenny has a good option, I definitely think it is at
least worth considering. it sure isn't the best thing to weaken our defense corps that aren't exactly league's best right now, but if there was a chance
of Nick coming back next season trading Stuart it's absolutely worth considering. with Howie in goal we have the luxury to go with weaker defense.
...
We'd be unlikely to get more than the 2nd and 4th rounders we gave up for him.
#52
Posted 18 January 2012 - 08:48 AM
Not sure what "prices" you mean. White for a 2nd. Brewer for a 3rd and a weak prospect. McCabe for a 3rd and weak prospect. Wideman for a 3rd and a weak prospect. Allen for Samsonov. Klesla for Lepisto and Upshall. Mark Stuart and Wheeler for Peverley and a crap defenseman...
We'd be unlikely to get more than the 2nd and 4th rounders we gave up for him.
not so sure...
Kaberle = 1st round pick, conditional 2nd round pick, depth player (former 1st round pick)
Versteeg = 1st round pick, 3rd round pick
Mike Fisher = 1st round pick, conditional 2nd round pick
Kovalchuk = 1st round pick + 2 veteran regulars
Stuart is worth more than White, Brewer or Wideman and I'm not even going to bite on the old goat McCabe...
Wings can't expect to get for him same as Kaberle got, but Versteeg of Mike Fisher... if there's willing buyer
on the other end... ?
Stuart is no Lidstrom, but he's no slouch either. and most certainly a veteran with significant playoff experience...
Edited by akustyk, 18 January 2012 - 08:49 AM.
#53
Posted 18 January 2012 - 12:02 PM
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#54
Posted 18 January 2012 - 01:20 PM
We need Stuart for a cup run so trading him at the deadline would make little sense, unless it's for a comparable/better D-man.
Agreed. I still can't get over his bad pinches in Game 7 though.
#55
Posted 19 January 2012 - 02:53 AM
Agreed. I still can't get over his bad pinches in Game 7 though.
GMR had a great quote for that. I forget where it's from. Something like, "You've disappointed me, son..." Or something to that effect.
#56
Posted 19 January 2012 - 03:21 AM
GMR had a great quote for that. I forget where it's from. Something like, "You've disappointed me, son..." Or something to that effect.
Of course, I could get off my lame rear and do something.
#57
Posted 19 January 2012 - 09:47 AM
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#58
Posted 19 January 2012 - 12:43 PM
GMR had a great quote for that. I forget where it's from. Something like, "You've disappointed me, son..." Or something to that effect.
Godfather Part II.
"You broke my heart, Fredo". "You broke my heart".
I hope Holland did that to Stuart after that game 7.
#59
Posted 19 January 2012 - 10:43 PM
He signed a 3 year deal which means he was going to be here for 3 years. He was 29 so he had to have had a young family either not in school or early in school (although something was said about a step-daughter wanting to be close to her dad? that shouldn't factor into this kind of decision....) So kid wise, it shouldn't have been a problem moving them.
Wife had a job or wanted to be close to family? Sorry, tough cookies. Your husband makes $3.5 million dollars a year. Suck it up. Make the sacrifice.
If one of those reasons was why they didn't move, I dunno that just seems selfish to me.
We are going to lose a solid top 4 D-man who has made his mark here, who loves this team, because his family won't move here. That really SUCKS!
Again, I may not have this right (at all), and I apologize again for sounding insensitive, but this sucks......
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