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#601 GoWings1905

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 11:15 PM

Definitely agree with you about the Jays. They were already a pretty respectable team, but this instantly propels them to contend seriously in the AL East. That division is absolutely brutal. Josh Johnson is as good as any pitcher when healthy.

The Marlins are a joke. Con taxpayers into funding a new stadium, spend money for once and then completely tear it down not even a year later. Even before today, they had unloaded Ramirez and Bell and now they just got rid of anyone left on the team making big money. The Tigers seem to like being trade partners with the Marlins, so maybe the selling spirit can continue on with Giancarlo Stanton for someone not named Nick Castellanos. :D

I'm hoping once this Torii Hunter deal happens (because I refuse to believe it won't) that the Tigers add to the bullpen for certain and possibly some depth for the back of the rotation since keeping Sanchez seems done. I don't trust Porcello and while I like Smyly, he's still developing and hasn't pitched an entire season of professional baseball. I will have to glance at the available names, but it's not like the Tigers have an abundance of quality starting pitching waiting in the minor leagues should injuries occur again. I would take Laird back as well or might even be fine with Holaday backing up Avila.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 12:17 PM

Torii Hunter will sign a two-year deal with the Detroit Tigers, per Ken Rosenthal (via Twitter).

Perfect addition for all the reasons I've already stated. Now Dombrowski can focus his attention elsewhere. Bullpen help, back up catcher, and maybe pitching.

I like Laird a lot but understand the idea that he may go elsewhere for more money or playing time. Sanchez should be pursued aggressively in my opinion, but I can't imagine they'll give him what someone else will, and they shouldn't.

Bullpen help is a necessity, in my opinion. Maybe even sign someone like Madson as an insurance policy if Rondon doesn't work out. Make sure that whoever you sign understands they may be in a set up role.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 03:10 PM

I couldn't be more stoked with the news about Torii Hunter. I have always liked him as a player and person even when he was torturing the Tigers with the Twins for years. He's a perfect fit for what the team needed most this winter. Right field was such a gaping hole last season and now it's filled with a combination of solid hitting and stellar defense. 1-5 in the Tigers lineup is so sick. If Peralta and/or Avila bounce back somewhat at the bottom plus adding Infante the entire year and this appears to be a stacked batting order.

Great work, as has been the case nearly every move lately, by Dombrowski. Just a few other pieces to fill in and count the days until April.
 
 
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 04:37 PM

Laird signs with the Braves. Didn't like him much with the Tigers the first time around, but I thought he was very good as Avila's backup this season. It's a pretty critical position because we saw what running Avila into the ground does to his health and hitting ability.


 
 
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 08:26 PM

Miggy rightfully wins the MVP! How can you deny the Triple Crown? The best hitter in baseball finally gets the award he could win nearly every season. Man, are we ever lucky to be Tigers fans right now. The World Series stings, but watching JV and Cabrera in their primes is special.

Congrats to the new MVP in Detroit!
 
 
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Posted 17 November 2012 - 09:25 PM

Miggy rightfully wins the MVP! How can you deny the Triple Crown? The best hitter in baseball finally gets the award he could win nearly every season. Man, are we ever lucky to be Tigers fans right now. The World Series stings, but watching JV and Cabrera in their primes is special.

Congrats to the new MVP in Detroit!


Agreed. I have an obsessed Tigers fan as a close friend who always likes to remind us how special this Tigers team really is. We are a fortunate bunch of fans these days and it's pretty remarkable considering how bad they were throughout my entire childhood.

Nice to see a change in narrative.

Speaking of which, how about the Blue Jays going all out in the East? Now they've signed Melky Cabrera and suddenly look ready to contend with the Yankees. The Rays are always around but are basically Longoria and starting pitching, the Red Sox are in apparently in full-on rebuilding mode, and the Orioles can't be expected to repeat last season's performance. I think the Jays will be a lot of fun to watch this season.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:14 AM

John Gibbons? Really?

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 06:56 PM

Rumors are circulating the Tigers are trying to sign Stephen Drew, which would also involve trading Peralta.

Are we actually going to attempt to play defense this season? Sign me up for this new embrace in philosophy.
 
 
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Posted 22 November 2012 - 01:12 PM

I have a soft spot for Jhonny, but I can understand the want for upgraded defense - especially on Cabrera's left - in the infield.

I feel like my opinion of a potential trade comes largely from return. Drew is a good defensive shortstop, but his offensive numbers have declined steadily for the last 3 years. Plus, he declined a $10 M option, so I wonder what it'd take to sign him.

If there was anyway to turn Peralta into a package (with Castellanos/Garcia, and more) that sees Justin Upton come back, then I'd be much more receptive. However, if the return was a mid level prospect, I don't know how I feel about it.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 11:52 PM

Any tips for someone trying to get into Baseball? I did read and printed the rules so I am okayish I guess from that side, but watching games is really boring. You have minutes of virtually nothing happening at all, so is it better to just watch the last innings or maybe focus on some "star players" like Pr. Fielder?

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 08:30 PM

The "Official Rules of Major League Baseball" is, at times, one of the most vaguely written set of sports rules you'll ever read.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 12:55 PM

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 08:19 AM

Is it time to start the "dopers wing" of the BBHoF?

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Posted 02 December 2012 - 02:42 PM

Any tips for someone trying to get into Baseball? I did read and printed the rules so I am okayish I guess from that side, but watching games is really boring. You have minutes of virtually nothing happening at all, so is it better to just watch the last innings or maybe focus on some "star players" like Pr. Fielder?


I may not be the best person to answer this because I watch baseball every night and never get sick of it. I understand the angle that games might be boring due to all of the down time where the ball isn't getting hit somewhere. That being said, I think you will find that the more baseball you take in, the more you will pick up on the small parts of the game that add intrigue. There's so much going on that affects strategies and situations. Focusing on star players is never a bad idea. We're lucky and get to see Miguel Cabrera and Justin Verlander here and those two are about as exciting as they come in the sport.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 02:02 PM

Dan Haren to the Nationals. What a pitching staff and they will have Strasburg the entire season.

I still want Stephen Drew, but doesn't sound like the prospects are that strong right now.
 
 
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 01:05 AM

I was really high on Drew, but it seems as though he's got high demands and his defensive statics have been in decline the past 3 years. That said, he's still a better defensive SS than Jhonny.

Rumor mill continues to churn in Arizona and it sounds as though OF Jason Kubel is available. Word out of Seattle is that the Mariners are interested in Boesch as well. I'd love to see a 3-team trade that sends Boesch, Peralta + and gets Kubel and Brendan Ryan in return. Kubel hit 30 HR last year, can play multiple positions and Ryan is one of the best defensive SS in the game and with another bat in the line up we could afford Ryan's crappy offense.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 06:58 PM

I really like that trade idea. Brendan Ryan is indeed one of the best defensive shortstops in baseball. Him and Infante up the middle would take some serious pressure off the umm... anchors at the corners. I just want Boesch gone too -- he has no spot on this team anymore with Hunter, nor should he. Berry is more valuable off the bench because of the speed factor.

I don't get the sense DD is desperate to make another "big" move. Maybe wait until January and sign a reliever or backup catcher possibly. I would prefer they don't waste Avisail Garcia in a strictly platoon role if they intend on utilizing that in left with Dirks. Would have been quite pleased with the rumored Scott Hairston signing, but it didn't happen.The starting pitching does worry me a little with no Sanchez around. Wouldn't mind a low risk deal (Brad Penny type) for some depth.
 
 
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Posted 10 December 2012 - 01:45 PM

Looks like the Tigs may have a new main challenger in the Central next season. The Royals gave up a ton, but they addressed their most glaring weakness. James Shields is an ace for them and Wade Davis is young and has potential. Typical trade too for the Rays and they will make out better long-term.

I see the Royals finishing second at this point. The gap is still rather significant between the Tigers and everyone else though. The White Sox were a fluke for most of last year and I would be surprised if they can duplicate a serious run for the division again. The Indians need starting pitching and the Twins are horrible.
 
 
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Posted 13 December 2012 - 08:22 PM

The LA baseball teams are out of control. Josh Hamilton to the Angels, to go with Trout and Pujols. Both the Hamilton and Pujols deals are going to look really bad sooner than later, but that lineup is stacked in the short-term. Not sold on their starting pitching yet though. I don't think Tommy Hanson and Joe Blanton scare anyone after Weaver and Wilson.

Meanwhile, looks like Anibal Sanchez may unfortunately be signing with the Cubs soon. Didn't anticipate the Tigers being able to retain him, but it definitely changes the look of the starting rotation entirely. Porcello can't have another inconsistent season.
 
 
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Posted 15 December 2012 - 12:07 AM

Pretty surprising turn of events to see Sanchez wind up back in a Tigers uniform. While a lot of people are now pointing to Porcello as trade bait, I'd only like to see him go if it brought real value back to Detroit. A trade straight up for a closer would really suck.

Regardless, you've got to consider their rotation one of, if not the best rotation in the AL.

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