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[toby91_ca]

I won't feel sorry for the guy until this concussion affects how he will live his life from now on.

As of right now, he is rolling in dough and able to afford trips to every single doctor that could help him with this scenario. One which if he gets over will allow him to make millions upon millions of dollars to add on to the millions upon millions of dollars he already has.

Sure it might suck, but he can help the pain with his adoration of Pittsburgh fans, Stanley Cup ring, and massive paycheck coming in every week.

So, it's all about the money? I agree with you on the big issue would be whether there will be affects on day to day life, but we don't know that at this point.

However, it would have to be extremely difficult not being able to do what you have been doing and working towards your entire life. Money isn't going to help that.

Edited by toby91_ca, 23 January 2012 - 10:05 AM.

[Doc Holliday]

So, it's all about the money? I agree with you on the big issue would be whether there will be affects on day to day life, but we don't know that at this point.

However, it would have to be extremely difficult not being able to do what you have been doing and working towards your entire life. Money isn't going to help that.

He has been given attention and adoration since he was 14. He has hardly had the hard knocks that you and I experience.

Sorry, but I don't really care if things are a little difficult for him now. He still has more freedoms and choices while concussed than anyone here does healthy.

[AceInTheSleeve]

Id like to see if crosby donates money to a concussion treatment cause for all hockey players, or something to that effect.

[esteef]

Doc, your comments in this thread are mean and vicious towards Crosby. +1!

esteef

[Barrie]

I appreciate Crosby's doing everything he can to comeback, but he's done.

I heard on 1050 TSN radio in Toronto that Crosby got a serious concussion when he was 11. Just like Lindros, every concussion since that one is making things worse for him.

[SouthernWingsFan]

While money helps with the problem, it's not the end of all end solutions. I'd also be wanting to do something I enjoy and make a living or money doing it as much as I can, no matter how rich or well off I was.

I don't like Crosby like pretty much everybody else in here and don't pay attention much when he is talked about anymore because it is overbearing at times, I get the recent history between the two teams in here, but it'd be nice for him to play again simply because it is what he does for a living.

I am implying nothing more and nothing less. I'm not overadvocating for him to be out there, and on the flip side I'm not going to the other extreme basically telling him to f off like some in here have gone too far with.

If that makes me some kind of Crosby apologist to others in here, well that's not my issue.

[Yzguy]

One more thing. WE THOUGHT during the 2008 & 2009 Cup Finals that Malkin was the better Pen. And right now Malkin is showing that he IS ALSO the best player in the league (sorry, Pav) so far this season.

[henrik40]

Interesting series of tweets from Bob McCown:

FadooBobcat Bob McCown
Sydney Crosby has injury to C1 and C2 vertebrae

FadooBobcat Bob McCown
Injury diagnosed during recent trip to Utah, but apparently missed by Pittsburgh doctors who were treating him.

FadooBobcat Bob McCown
Drs expect Crosby to heal and be ready for playoffs. Unclear if he even suffered 2nd concussion. Sid said to be very unhappy with Pit docs.

I see this as great news for the league, but awful news for the Pens doctors.

Edit: I'm assuming the vertebrae injury happened with the original concussion and had it been found/addressed, he wouldn't have had any issues after he came back in December.

Edited by henrik40, 28 January 2012 - 06:15 PM.

[toby91_ca]

Interesting series of tweets from Bob McCown:

FadooBobcat Bob McCown
Sydney Crosby has injury to C1 and C2 vertebrae

FadooBobcat Bob McCown
Injury diagnosed during recent trip to Utah, but apparently missed by Pittsburgh doctors who were treating him.

FadooBobcat Bob McCown
Drs expect Crosby to heal and be ready for playoffs. Unclear if he even suffered 2nd concussion. Sid said to be very unhappy with Pit docs.

I see this as great news for the league, but awful news for the Pens doctors.

Edit: I'm assuming the vertebrae injury happened with the original concussion and had it been found/addressed, he wouldn't have had any issues after he came back in December.

The Pens medical staff has to be completely embarrased right about now, but they seem to have screwed up several times. Let's not forget that they let him play, not only the 3rd period in the Winter classic, but the next game as well...after likely having broken his neck and suffering a oncussion. I understand the neck thing just came out now, but even without that, they should have learned from Crosby's concussion, yet this year, they let Letang go back in a game after taking a pretty wicked head shot. Sure enough, within the next few days, he's out with a concussion.

Someone really should be fired.

[Electrophile]

So, HWSNBN has for all intents and purposes, a broken neck? A broken neck that his team's medical staff failed to notice? Okay, I'm not a doctor (though I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express), but how the holy fracking frack do you miss a broken neck? I mean, does Pittsburgh not own any x-ray equipment or MRI equipment? I'm genuinely interested in how something like that could be missed.

[toby91_ca]

Jan. 5, 2011—Because Crosby shows no signs of a concussion following the Steckel hit—he complains only of neck pain—he is cleared to play at home four nights later against Tampa Bay. During the an 8-1 Penguins victory over Tampa Bay, Crosby is driven hard into the boards by Lightning defenceman Victor Hedman.

This is what makes things worse for the medical staff, I could understand not looking for possible neck problems for no reason....but ummm....Pens medical staff.....what the hell?

Oh and how does Crosby and Brady become friends? I don't see the connection.

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Edited by toby91_ca, 28 January 2012 - 10:57 PM.

[Hockeymom1960]

One more thing. WE THOUGHT during the 2008 & 2009 Cup Finals that Malkin was the better Pen. And right now Malkin is showing that he IS ALSO the best player in the league (sorry, Pav) so far this season.

Did you read the thread title???? This is NOT ABOUT MALKIN. You're off topic!

[cusimano_brothers]

A missed diagnosis? Interesting.

[edicius]

(Disclaimer: This is NOT my opinion, only something I've read around the internets.)

Some people are theorizing that the Pittsburgh docs aren't 100% at fault, but instead were ultimately pressured by Crosby to allow him to keep playing after the Steckel hit.

[The Production Line]

(Disclaimer: This is NOT my opinion, only something I've read around the internets.)

Some people are theorizing that the Pittsburgh docs aren't 100% at fault, but instead were ultimately pressured by Crosby to allow him to keep playing after the Steckel hit.

That's a serious breach of medical ethics if true and could lead to them losing their licenses.

[toby91_ca]

(Disclaimer: This is NOT my opinion, only something I've read around the internets.)

Some people are theorizing that the Pittsburgh docs aren't 100% at fault, but instead were ultimately pressured by Crosby to allow him to keep playing after the Steckel hit.

I'm not sure about that, but wouldn't doubt it for a second. That's what players do and that is why you need to try and keep them out of the decision process.

[haroldsnepsts]

I'm not sure about that, but wouldn't doubt it for a second. That's what players do and that is why you need to try and keep them out of the decision process.

The thing is even if it were true (though it sounds more like Crosby hate than anything legit), Crosby has no leverage to pressure doctors unless the coaching staff and management were backing him up. They're the ones who ultimately employ the team doctors.

If it's just him saying "I need to get back out there" but the management trusts and abides by the doctors' opinions, then there's not anything even Sidney Crosby can do to change it.

Players are almost always going to want to play. That's why they're supposed to be the ones not making the decision.

[Yzermania]

They're saying he had a neck injury and it's healed...yet he's still not 100%, so it just goes back to the concussion thing. Sure they missed the neck injury, but it still seems to me that the concussions were the real problem, unless I'm completely missing something.

[Barrie]

I find it hard to believe that doctors missed the neck injury for 13 months. I think it's just something being said to give Pittsburgh and Crosby fans hope he's coming back.

[Donaldjr2448]

A word about the doctor's missing something. Does anyone think that possibly its the Pittsburgh organization pressuring the doctors at all to get Crosby back on the ice??? Lets face it the Pens organization is paying these doctors and I could see this organization pulling somethingh like that. I'm certain that this is not the only time this has happened in sports with a star player and a team. Just doesn't seem like a team of doctors would simply let a injured player go back on the ice knowing what they knew. Like someone else stated, these doctors would lose their license if they allowed an injured player to continue on the ice or anyone for that matter. Call me a skeptic I guess.