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#1 Dominator2005

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 12:20 PM

http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=386420

Toughening Up?

The Detroit Red Wings open the second half of the season as the top team in the league, and not surprisingly they're looking to add some talent at, or before, the trade deadline.

Gregg Krupa of the The Detroit News reports that the club is looking to get tougher with the playoffs looming, and head coach Mike Babcock revealed his wish-list.

"To me, if we could get another heavy winger, or heavy forward, or D - those would all be good things to help you," Babcock told the News.

Read the full report here: http://m.detnews.com...01300303&f=1209



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Posted 30 January 2012 - 12:39 PM

How "heavy" are we talking about?
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Posted 30 January 2012 - 12:47 PM

How "heavy" are we talking about?

Tkachuk heavy!

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 12:51 PM

Tkachuk heavy!

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 12:51 PM

How "heavy" are we talking about?


Link Gaetz?

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 12:54 PM

Link Gaetz?


Link was a defenseman.

In all seriousness, I don't know what Holland/Babcock's definition of a "heavy" winger is.

After all, this is the team that gave us phrases like "team toughness" and "our powerplay is our enforcer", although the latter may have been a LGW created phrase (I don't remember anymore).

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 12:57 PM

Link was a defenseman.

In all seriousness, I don't know what Holland/Babcock's definition of a "heavy" winger is.

After all, this is the team that gave us phrases like "team toughness" and "our powerplay is our enforcer", although the latter may have been an LGW created phrase (I don't remember anymore).


Babs said heavy D. (I can already see the rapper pictures).

And no, unfortunately, the "Our powerplay is our enforcer" mantra was a pure 100% Detroit Red Wings company line. I remember Maltby saying that to a reporter and me sensing very little genuineness out of him.

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 12:59 PM

If we can pluck these two from the stars I think we will be one of the hardest teams to play against in the playoffs:



imagine kronwall, stuart, and fistric all out there to destroy someone on any given shift.
also think of the drake factor that morrow has, a gritty guy who will take runs at anyone, fight, and even has some talent offensively and is a great leader.
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Posted 30 January 2012 - 01:02 PM

Babs said heavy D. (I can already see the rapper pictures).

And no, unfortunately, the "Our powerplay is our enforcer" mantra was a pure 100% Detroit Red Wings company line. I remember Maltby saying that to a reporter and me sensing very little genuineness out of him.


At least it wasn't McCarty who said it.
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Posted 30 January 2012 - 01:07 PM

How "heavy" are we talking about?


Maybe we can shift around some finances for the Spring?

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Morrow or Ruutu would both be nice additions, though. Even as someone who isn't 'enforcer-crazy' - we could definitely use the grit.

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 01:07 PM

I think a guy like Tuomo Ruutu would be a great fit for the Wings.

He's a big, gritty winger with offensive upside. Plus he's younger and would likely cost us less prospects/picks than Brenden Morrow.

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 01:11 PM

At least it wasn't McCarty who said it.


I don't know how anybody can say that and believe it with an unwavering heart. Especially guys who have been around the game as much as Holland.

But in terms of team toughness I feel like Commodore is closer to reserving a playoff roster spot than Kindl or E for that matter.

I think a guy like Tuomo Ruutu would be a great fit for the Wings.

He's a big, gritty winger with offensive upside. Plus he's younger and would likely cost us less prospects/picks than Brenden Morrow.


He would be good in the sense that he can take a hit to make a play and he has good skills to compliment skilled players and bottom six players. However, I wouldn't expect him to deliver the extent of toughness that Morrow can bring.

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 01:18 PM

He would be good in the sense that he can take a hit to make a play and he has good skills to compliment skilled players and bottom six players. However, I wouldn't expect him to deliver the extent of toughness that Morrow can bring.


I was thinking more in terms of what the team would have to give up to acquire him.

Ruutu is a UFA after the season whereas Morrow has a year left on his contract so he'd likely cost much more than Ruutu. That being said, I'd love to see Morrow in red and white this season.

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 01:31 PM

I would really actually rather one more scorer and have our boys who can throw their weight around to do so. I would LOVE to see us pick of Grabovski from the the Leafs (his salary is currently 2.9mil), he plays aggressive to the net and has awesome speed.



EDIT: I also love my boy Colton Orr and would love to see him in a wings wheel too...is he playing again or still out?
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Posted 30 January 2012 - 01:38 PM

I would really actually rather one more scorer and have our boys who can throw their weight around to do so. I would LOVE to see us pick of Grabovski from the the Leafs (his salary is currently 2.9mil), he plays aggressive to the net and has awesome speed.



EDIT: I also love my boy Colton Orr and would love to see him in a wings wheel too...is he playing again or still out?




Colton Orr and Grabovski would be nice, but who do we loose do get them?

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 01:38 PM

EDIT: I also love my boy Colton Orr and would love to see him in a wings wheel too...is he playing again or still out?


He's playing with the Marlies.

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 01:39 PM

I would really actually rather one more scorer and have our boys who can throw their weight around to do so. I would LOVE to see us pick of Grabovski from the the Leafs (his salary is currently 2.9mil), he plays aggressive to the net and has awesome speed.



EDIT: I also love my boy Colton Orr and would love to see him in a wings wheel too...is he playing again or still out?

morrow has hit 30 goals twice and had 33 last year, grabovski has yet to score 30 but has more upside offensively one would think, but if you add in all of the other factors that morrow has it adds up to morrow being a much more valuable player to this team
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Posted 30 January 2012 - 01:45 PM

morrow has hit 30 goals twice and had 33 last year, grabovski has yet to score 30 but has more upside offensively one would think, but if you add in all of the other factors that morrow has it adds up to morrow being a much more valuable player to this team



I do love Morrow but Grabby is only 27 and is currently 1.2 million less, don't get me wrong if I read we signed Morrow Ill do a little dance as well but I really love the raw freaking talent Grabovski has and believe he doesnt get the kudos he deserves in toronto.
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Posted 30 January 2012 - 02:08 PM

Colton Orr? Jay Rosehill would be better option. He is faster, has better hands, hits more and harder.

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 02:17 PM

The fact that TSN has been talking about the wings so much makes me really excited for the trade deadline, there must really be fire for them to be reporting this much on a non canadian/non penguin team.

It seems Babs has wanted another heavy winger for a while now and he should finally get his wish. The obvious one is his former player Travis Moen. Hes a playoff type player, good defensively, great PKer and tough. Dreger said Detroit has kicked the tires with Montreal about him. Gaustad is also a very solid centerman that could bump Helm down to the fourth line and move Abdelkader to the wing

But the thing is that with physical bottom line types, pretty much anyone could be available, not just free agents. Columbus could possibly part with Boll or Dorsett which would be awesome and give the wings another guy who is tough to play against, preferably Dorsett. My dream player would be to get Matt Martin out of New York. The kid is a hitting machine, young and can scrap as well. He is a complete wrecking ball and always near the top of the league in hits. He could provide a physical presence noone on this team does. Thorburn or Slater out of the peg would be solid additions to the bottom of the lineup.

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