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#1 toby91_ca

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 12:36 PM

The most interesting part I took from the article is the suggestion that they are investigating everything, including whether it is possible for the clock to stop like that. I took from that.... a suggestion that they are considering the possibility that the timekeeper paused the clock purposely to allow the Kings some extra time to get that goal. I haven't heard any such allegations, I'm just making my own assumption here on the possibility.


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Edit..I messed up my edit, hopefully this doesn't appear twice. The funniest thing is that even if Columbus wins their next 32 straight games, they probably still miss the playoffs. If the Kings make it in by 1pt, that will be interesting.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 12:50 PM

I saw the video on Yahoo ... that's some suspicious sh*t .. how can the clock freeze at 1.8s ????? Corrupt time keeper?

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 01:12 PM

Wow, interesting, i'll have to watch the video once I get home. What really quirks me is how they're saying "Once it's over, it's over" Really? This is the mentality our league has with their screw ups? I know this isn't new, and yes the league is quite dumb dumb at times, but REALLY? I would be up in arms if I had missed the playoffs due to 1 pt from the Kings. You just can't rationalize something like that... that way..

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 01:26 PM

Michigan State?

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 01:28 PM

Wow, interesting, i'll have to watch the video once I get home. What really quirks me is how they're saying "Once it's over, it's over" Really? This is the mentality our league has with their screw ups? I know this isn't new, and yes the league is quite dumb dumb at times, but REALLY? I would be up in arms if I had missed the playoffs due to 1 pt from the Kings. You just can't rationalize something like that... that way..

But what are you going to do....have them replay the game? Even doing that changes everything, it's a different game. What should have happened is that they noticed there shouldn't have been a goal when it happened and then they go on to overtime. I don't see any way of fixing this after the fact.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 01:28 PM

Wow, interesting, i'll have to watch the video once I get home. What really quirks me is how they're saying "Once it's over, it's over" Really? This is the mentality our league has with their screw ups? I know this isn't new, and yes the league is quite dumb dumb at times, but REALLY? I would be up in arms if I had missed the playoffs due to 1 pt from the Kings. You just can't rationalize something like that... that way..


What do you expect them to do? Take away the point and have a do over? When can they do that with the type of schedule they have?

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 01:38 PM

I would expect them to know this is a common occurrence with the league. How many times per season is there some calls towards goals, timing, ect that could influence the game? They should want to implement some type of valid system. Implement more cameras at better angles, ensure the damn clock can function, you know... It just happens so many times during the season where they have to go to the "war room" in toronto for clock screw ups, or miscalled goals. I know it won't be fixed, but I sure enough know that the best way to rationalize something to the public isn't to simply say "uhhh, its over so yeah."

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 01:39 PM

Nothing the NHL can do, but thats unbelievable.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 02:25 PM

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 02:38 PM

I wonder if the NHL could give LA a shootout win instead of a regulation win? Since once the season is over and Shootout wins are the first tie breaker maybe thats an idea. I don't know, maybe too far fetched.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 02:55 PM

This was worse than Michigan State. I think that the timekeeper's head is going to roll. If it was a mistake, then the timekeeper should have said it was. If he did, and the refs and the league didn't listen to him, then thats even worse.


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Posted 02 February 2012 - 03:06 PM

I would expect them to know this is a common occurrence with the league. How many times per season is there some calls towards goals, timing, ect that could influence the game? They should want to implement some type of valid system. Implement more cameras at better angles, ensure the damn clock can function, you know... It just happens so many times during the season where they have to go to the "war room" in toronto for clock screw ups, or miscalled goals. I know it won't be fixed, but I sure enough know that the best way to rationalize something to the public isn't to simply say "uhhh, its over so yeah."

I don't see a lot of clock malfunctions, so I'm not sure how common it is.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 03:27 PM

I don't see a lot of clock malfunctions, so I'm not sure how common it is.


Or, it might not even be a "malfunction" or human malfeasance:

"Those clocks are sophisticated instruments that calculate time by measuring electrical charges called coulombs, explained Kings general manager Dean Lombardi in an email to TSN. "Given the rapidity and volume of electrons that move through the measuring device the calibrator must adjust at certain points which was the delay you see the delay is just recalibrating for the clock moving too quickly during the 10 - 10ths of a second before the delay - this insures that the actual playing time during a period is exactly 20 minutes. That is not an opinion - that is science - amazing devise quite frankly."


I've noticed this phenomenon before. There are times when the clock on FSN will appear to briefly hang. However, I've only noticed this happen with more than 1:00 left, so it just appears that it takes a long time before the next second clicks off. I've just assumed that this was due to a "hiccup" between the arena's timing system and the networks. If what the LA GM says it true, then the timing mechanism picked a really bad time for Columbus to "re-sync".
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 03:35 PM

Strange, the Kings GM benefits from a ridiculous circumstance and attempts to justify it.

Didn't see that coming.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 04:55 PM

I expect the NHL to rescind/void that last goal and therefore, game ended at regulation tied. Since you can't play OT again, take 1 pt away from LA and give one point to Columbus. Each team gets 1 pt ... fair.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 04:55 PM

I've noticed this phenomenon before. There are times when the clock on FSN will appear to briefly hang. However, I've only noticed this happen with more than 1:00 left, so it just appears that it takes a long time before the next second clicks off. I've just assumed that this was due to a "hiccup" between the arena's timing system and the networks. If what the LA GM says it true, then the timing mechanism picked a really bad time for Columbus to "re-sync".


I've noticed it too. I tend to see it happen more when there is less than a minute. I always thought it was just the FSN clock not syncing up 100% with the real game clock or having something to do with only 2 or 3 digits in the clock. All speculation on my part, of course.

While we are on topic, I'm pretty sure it was this year, but does anyone remember that happening to the Wings? It wasn't at 1.8 and led to the tying goal, but I remember we were on a PK and the clock didn't tick for 15-20 seconds. I remember being pissed because it meant we spent an extra 20 seconds or so on the PK. IIRC, Ken even pointed it out.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 05:26 PM

I think this probably happens more times than people would like to admit whether intentional or accidental. I think we have all seen the clock freeze for a second or two, or keep running for a few seconds after the whistle before.


Not NHL, but just the other day I was watching a Walleye game on TV, and there was only a minute or so left in the period the Walleye were srtuggling to maintain their lead, and even get the puck out of their zone, and when the whistle blew the clock stopped, then ran again, then stopped for a millisecond then ran some more before it atually stopped. It was probably 10 seconds that ran off.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 06:55 PM

What are we, in the 18th century using wind up clocks? The muli-billion dollar NHL can't get game clocks that work like a clock should ... one that doesn't go faster or slower throughout the game and has to 'sync' every so often? This is a joke, how about they take some of the commissioner's salary to buy some game clocks for every arena that work like most people's clocks ... straight and narrow.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 07:32 PM

Yeah I don't understand why a clock would have to sync during a period. Were talking about a 20 minute time period here not 20 days!

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 07:50 PM

its funny he says they are sophisticated and amazing machines, yet they fail at their only purpose, which is accurately counting down from 20:00 to zero... while it sucks to see things like this, the b.s. excuses and coverups is what is really embarrassing... just own up to what really happened and stop blaming coulombs...

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