ami 273 Report post Posted February 14, 2012 Anyway, we won't get Nash for less than Datsyuk + Franzen + Zetterberg + Lidstrom + Kronwall + Nyquist + Smith + Tartar + 2012 1st round pick + 2013 1st round plus Hudler + Ericsson :deal: you forgot a couple season tickets to the joe. without those, no deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted February 14, 2012 Russian sports paper "Sport-Express" reports that the Rangers offered Dubinski+Cryder(sp?)+1st rd pick for Nash. That doesn't look too exorbitant to me. Yeah, but that is an offer... not a deal. I think if the Rangers were to make a deal they would want more than Dubs. I would imagine they would also want like Del or Staal included and then a first and a prospect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisdetroit 189 Report post Posted February 14, 2012 Got to think Columbus could command a high price for him... http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=387786 What a lousy piece of writing. He basically took one fact - that Nash is agreeable to a trade and repeated it in different words 8 times. 1 Red Wings Addict reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,914 Report post Posted February 14, 2012 Ok, again, Nash would be totally awesome in a Wings sweater, but not if it's gonna affect their chemistry. Sure they need that sniper to help alleviate their road woes plus their power(less) play, but getting Nash would not only have us lose a couple of high end prospects, but a couple of our roster players AND draft picks... Nash would be great, but I think Holland would go for Selanne and Moen for rentals that wouldn't cost the farm or the chemistry for the playoffs, and then throw the $7.8M at Parise for "for life" and Suter "for life" in July. Of course that would mean if Lidstrom comes back it would have to be around $5M unless the CBA goes off wihtout a hitch and the cap actually goes up, but if Lids comes back at $6.2M again...but this isn't about the cap or the offseason. Nash would be awesome but I think it would cost too much...but stranger things have happened. Rest assured, if Holland thinks the deal is right, Rick Nash will be in the Winged Wheel come Feb. 27th. 2 haroldsnepsts and Rubbel_die_Katz reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisdetroit 189 Report post Posted February 14, 2012 i think we're going to see a somewhat underwhelming return for rick nash. he's never hit 80 points. he makes 7.8 million until 2018 he has a NTC it's not worth it to give up a ton. Rick Nash makes $7.8M/year for the next 6 years and has basically no playoff experience. I like the guy and all but with that contract AND the fact that we would have to send some good players to Columbus in return - no thanks. He's not worth that much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,914 Report post Posted February 14, 2012 Yeah, but that is an offer... not a deal. I think if the Rangers were to make a deal they would want more than Dubs. I would imagine they would also want like Del or Staal included and then a first and a prospect. Ya, we can all make offers: To Det: Rick Nash To CMH: Dan Cleary Cory Emmerton Jan Mursak Thomas McCollum 2012 1st Round Pick 2 Hockey13Playa and greenrebellion reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwingfan19 293 Report post Posted February 14, 2012 ektard is saying nash to la for bernier penner hunter and a pick. he is just waiting 100% conformation lolz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,914 Report post Posted February 14, 2012 Ok, again, Nash would be totally awesome in a Wings sweater, but not if it's gonna affect their chemistry. Sure they need that sniper to help alleviate their road woes plus their power(less) play, but getting Nash would not only have us lose a couple of high end prospects, but a couple of our roster players AND draft picks... Nash would be great, but I think Holland would go for Selanne and Moen for rentals that wouldn't cost the farm or the chemistry for the playoffs, and then throw the $7.8M at Parise for "for life" and Suter "for life" in July. Of course that would mean if Lidstrom comes back it would have to be around $5M unless the CBA goes off wihtout a hitch and the cap actually goes up, but if Lids comes back at $6.2M again...but this isn't about the cap or the offseason. Nash would be awesome but I think it would cost too much...but stranger things have happened. Rest assured, if Holland thinks the deal is right, Rick Nash will be in the Winged Wheel come Feb. 27th. at the neg for this post! It's not like I said Franzen sucks or Hudler should be traded... spineless neg bandit. 1 Hockey13Playa reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted February 14, 2012 Ok, again, Nash would be totally awesome in a Wings sweater, but not if it's gonna affect their chemistry. Sure they need that sniper to help alleviate their road woes plus their power(less) play, but getting Nash would not only have us lose a couple of high end prospects, but a couple of our roster players AND draft picks... Nash would be great, but I think Holland would go for Selanne and Moen for rentals that wouldn't cost the farm or the chemistry for the playoffs, and then throw the $7.8M at Parise for "for life" and Suter "for life" in July. Of course that would mean if Lidstrom comes back it would have to be around $5M unless the CBA goes off wihtout a hitch and the cap actually goes up, but if Lids comes back at $6.2M again...but this isn't about the cap or the offseason. Nash would be awesome but I think it would cost too much...but stranger things have happened. Rest assured, if Holland thinks the deal is right, Rick Nash will be in the Winged Wheel come Feb. 27th. I still want someone to explain Moen to me in a way where it makes sense. Adding a guy that doesn't bring anything more than depth to a team that already has too much depth in the same department... I don't get it at all. 1 Travis reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockey13Playa 240 Report post Posted February 14, 2012 I still want someone to explain Moen to me in a way where it makes sense. Adding a guy that doesn't bring anything more than depth to a team that already has too much depth in the same department... I don't get it at all. Yeah Moen doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me either... I don't really see how adding him will do anything more for us then what we have already... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rubbel_die_Katz 24 Report post Posted February 14, 2012 Rick Nash makes $7.8M/year for the next 6 years and has basically no playoff experience. I like the guy and all but with that contract AND the fact that we would have to send some good players to Columbus in return - no thanks. He's not worth that much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings1110 184 Report post Posted February 14, 2012 VAN doesnt have the cap space for him.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
achildr1 255 Report post Posted February 14, 2012 Ya, we can all make offers: To Det: Rick Nash To CMH: Dan Cleary Cory Emmerton Jan Mursak Thomas McCollum 2012 1st Round Pick If Columbus is big on low upsides, spare parts, and failed prospects. 2 Majsheppard and greenrebellion reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,914 Report post Posted February 14, 2012 If Columbus is big on low upsides, spare parts, and failed prospects. ya considering the offer was a joke as it was in response to the "offer" from New York to Columbus being too low. It was commented that NY's offer was just that, an offer, not a deal. So I said, ya anyone can make an "offer." So that was my "offer" not my "deal." Some of you guys are so serious. 1 Hockey13Playa reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted February 14, 2012 i wish we could get him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,914 Report post Posted February 14, 2012 I still want someone to explain Moen to me in a way where it makes sense. Adding a guy that doesn't bring anything more than depth to a team that already has too much depth in the same department... I don't get it at all. "Selanne" and "Moen" are just example names of the type of deal I can see Holland making as opposed to making the "Nash" type deal. It's still funny how people are so serious as to neg you for trying to make sense of all this. You get negged when you say make the huge deal, you get negged when you say make a couple minor deals. That is why I say people just neg folks for no reason except that someone mentions trade their favorite player... 1 Hockey13Playa reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dawings1905 2 Report post Posted February 14, 2012 So lets see..... 3.95 mil for 22 goals and 24 assists (and a proven playoff performer) Franzen For 7.9 mil and 18 goals and 21 assists? No thanks. Not to mention the cap space you lose on one player. I am having a hard time seeing how this is an upgrade other than the name recognition. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mitchmac33 103 Report post Posted February 14, 2012 So lets see..... 3.95 mil for 22 goals and 24 assists (and a proven playoff performer) Franzen For 7.9 mil and 18 goals and 21 assists? No thanks. Not to mention the cap space you lose on one player. I am having a hard time seeing how this is an upgrade other than the name recognition. Who is Franzen playing with and who is Nash playing with? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,914 Report post Posted February 14, 2012 So lets see..... 3.95 mil for 22 goals and 24 assists (and a proven playoff performer) Franzen For 7.9 mil and 18 goals and 21 assists? No thanks. Not to mention the cap space you lose on one player. I am having a hard time seeing how this is an upgrade other than the name recognition. I have a feeling Columbus would not take Franzen because of his age and length of his contract. Maybe because of his playoff performances, but Columbus doesn't worry too much about playoffs now do they? Plus I like to imagine if Holland got Nash, it would be nice to see Nash AND Franzen here. But like I mentioned above, I say tweak the roster for the playoffs, score Parise and Suter come July. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diluvian04 11 Report post Posted February 14, 2012 ektard is saying nash to la for bernier penner hunter and a pick. he is just waiting 100% conformation lolz They are making fun of ekland on xm92. Calling him "that guy" asking what dream is he in or something to that effect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kindl Surprise 47 Report post Posted February 14, 2012 Ekland is trending in Canada on twitter right now too. For as terrible as most of the trades he "breaks" are, ya gotta give him credit for creating a buzz lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
atodaso 279 Report post Posted February 14, 2012 Who is Franzen playing with and who is Nash playing with? Do you seriously think Nash comes to Detroit and is suddenly scoring 40-50 goals per season? There is no way this happens; not because Nash isn't capable of being a 40-50 goal scorer, because no one scores that many goals here. Not with this system. What's the point of swapping Franzen for Nash if he's gonna put up 35 goals? And Nash has no playoff experience whereas Mule has 37 playoff goals; and he costs half as much. Getting Nash for a prospect or two, a first round pick and a decent veteran would be a good deal if Nash was making $5mil per season. But since he's not I'd rather let the Rangers, Kings, or Canucks over pay for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zetterling 16 Report post Posted February 15, 2012 Dudes. Just hear me out... TO CBJ: Cleary, Abdelkader, Helm, Mursak, 1st round pick and maybe some other picks to sweeten the deal TO DET: Nash Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ozzie30 170 Report post Posted February 15, 2012 For the record, id rather go after Parise and suter this summer. Jurco, Nyquist, kindl, 1st and 2nd. Frannzen or Fil if necessary is min of what I would expect if I was Columbus. I would not give up Smith at this point Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hatethedrake! Report post Posted February 15, 2012 The one positive for the Wings if Nash is dealt, is that it eliminates that team from signing Parise this summer. I believe that Parise and Suter are Holland's main targets this summer. I don't believe Holland will even be in the Nash sweeps. Parise and Suter he'll be all in for sure. Dudes. Just hear me out... TO CBJ: Cleary, Abdelkader, Helm, Mursak, 1st round pick and maybe some other picks to sweeten the deal TO DET: Nash Can we acquire a 3rd line at the deadline? 1 55fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites