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#101 Red Crazy

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 08:03 PM

So lets see.....

3.95 mil for 22 goals and 24 assists (and a proven playoff performer) Franzen

For

7.9 mil and 18 goals and 21 assists? No thanks.

Not to mention the cap space you lose on one player. I am having a hard time seeing how this is an upgrade other than the name recognition.

Have you looked at point totals for more than this season? Nash is having an off year and he is still keeping pace with Mule.
Nash could be a 70-80 point player for the Wings. Franzen seems to be in the 50 point range. I cant see him ending up a Red Wing but if his list is short and the Wings are on it they should take a stab at getting him.

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 10:34 PM

Have you looked at point totals for more than this season? Nash is having an off year and he is still keeping pace with Mule.
Nash could be a 70-80 point player for the Wings. Franzen seems to be in the 50 point range. I cant see him ending up a Red Wing but if his list is short and the Wings are on it they should take a stab at getting him.


I still think that Franzen, and all our top forwards for that matter, suffer from lack of the right chemistry. We need top six forwards to make the players better. This is why Nash is on the block. No set up center. Realistically if anyone can fit in chemistry wise, performance will follow.
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Posted 14 February 2012 - 10:59 PM

I doubt the Jackets will part with Nash to a division rival. They want to have a chance to win the division some day, not look up at the perennial winner.

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#104 MabusIncarnate

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 02:27 AM

Rotoworld is reporting that the Rangers are in preliminary talks with the Jackets about Nash.

Wonder what the asking price would be, Dubinsky, a prospect and a 1st or 2nd?

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 02:31 AM

Kevin Weekes on NHL Overtime said a Nash trade WILL happen according to his sources.

He believes the most likely destination is the LA Kings.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 02:34 AM

here is a scary "what if"

nashville trades suter for nash

suter signs with c-bus to overhaul ....nashville gets another weapon to fight us with.

ouch.
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#107 MabusIncarnate

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 02:37 AM

here is a scary "what if"

nashville trades suter for nash

suter signs with c-bus to overhaul ....nashville gets another weapon to fight us with.

ouch.


Maybe i'm overconfident in this team or have a secret grudge against Tennessee having a hockey team, but i'm just not that threatened by Nashville, even if they did add Nash. Rinne can steal any game, that's what concerns me the most.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 07:14 AM

Franzen has a playoff record like no other. Keep him always.

Filp has been an awesome alround performer on the ice, and this year he is having the breakout production year we knew he was capable of having. He does more things better than Nash. Keep him.

We have a ton of depth, a ton, wich translates to assets.


Hudler has been very good this year, but we ultimately want to get bigger, stronger, faster, and score more. Plus, he gets knocked off the puck too easily come playoff time. And he let us know in his own terms (by going to KHL at the last minute after we already made player movements to committ to him) that there is no family loyalty between he and the Wings.

Hudler will atleast alleviate some of the scoring loss for Columbus. The fact that he is too small, slow, and weak for playoff hockey should be a moot point with Columbus. :lol:

Package Hudler and Kindl with a balance of picks and prospects that we are comfortable with and hope for the best. If it doesn't work, we have lost nothing. If it does work, we have lost minimal and gained more than we ever could have hoped for.

Sell, Kenny, sell that deal!


package Hudler with big E and send them to Columbus. but it wont happen. Just a wish.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 09:17 AM

FYI, teams don't want Hudler in a trade, he's in a contact year.
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Posted 15 February 2012 - 09:32 AM

It would take alot more then hudler to pry Nash frOm the jackets. It would take b smith,kindl,jurco and maybe nyquist with picks to land Nash. No thanks!

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 09:47 AM

I love HFboards when trades like this come up. My favorite offer so far

To Philadelphia
Rick Nash

To Columbus

Michael Leighton
Andreas Lilja
Jody Shelley
5rd round pick.

Lol

#112 Learn2LuvIt

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 10:27 AM

I think the Jackets are looking for a starting goalie in any deal for Nash. Hence why speculation around a trade with L.A.(Bernier) may be gaining some momentum.
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Posted 15 February 2012 - 10:58 AM

here is a scary "what if"

nashville trades suter for nash

suter signs with c-bus to overhaul ....nashville gets another weapon to fight us with.

ouch.

Salary is a real thing you know. If Nashville can't afford to keep both Suter and Weber, how would they afford adding Nash, even if they give up Suter?

Apparantly Nash's short-list is Philly, Toronto, NYR, LA and Vancouver. Maybe I'm forgetting one or two teams and I'm not sure if this is 100% confirmed, but if it is, I see LA as the most logical option.

Vancouver doesn't have any cap space, neither does the Rangers. It wouldn't make a lot of sense for Toronto whose major need is a 1st line Center. Philly? Well maybe in a blockbuster trade including Bryzgalov. But I'm really not sure that is something they should be doing.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 11:17 AM

Salary is a real thing you know. If Nashville can't afford to keep both Suter and Weber, how would they afford adding Nash, even if they give up Suter?

Apparantly Nash's short-list is Philly, Toronto, NYR, LA and Vancouver. Maybe I'm forgetting one or two teams and I'm not sure if this is 100% confirmed, but if it is, I see LA as the most logical option.

Vancouver doesn't have any cap space, neither does the Rangers. It wouldn't make a lot of sense for Toronto whose major need is a 1st line Center. Philly? Well maybe in a blockbuster trade including Bryzgalov. But I'm really not sure that is something they should be doing.


I've heard this too. Not like I ultimately care about Nash either way, but I find it a bit of a slap in the **** that Detroit, and the opportunity to play with Datsyuk, didn't make his list.
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Posted 15 February 2012 - 11:28 AM

I've heard this too. Not like I ultimately care about Nash either way, but I find it a bit of a slap in the **** that Detroit, and the opportunity to play with Datsyuk, didn't make his list.

Maybe he didn't want to go to a division rival. I'm sure he still has a lot of heart for Columbus and Detroit is one of their biggest 'rivals'.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 11:48 AM

Maybe he didn't want to go to a division rival. I'm sure he still has a lot of heart for Columbus and Detroit is one of their biggest 'rivals'.


Yeah, quite possible.

Or maybe he just picked a list of nice places to live (-Philly) combinded with that city also having a team in the hunt (-Toronto :hehe: )
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Posted 15 February 2012 - 11:54 AM

When was the last trade deadline that had so many big names floating around?

I'm talking superstar players left and right.
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Posted 15 February 2012 - 12:05 PM

Well, Nash would be nice, but if Detroit didn't make his list then oh well! Let's just get Selanne and go for the Cup, then re-sign Lids, sign Suter and Parise in July.

Maybe Wisniewski's attitude rubbed off on Nash, maybe that is why he is underachieving this year....

Blah,Blah,Blah....Trade Pav...Blah, Blah...Trade Z...Yadda, Yadda, Blah...

 

 


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Posted 15 February 2012 - 12:25 PM

I love HFboards when trades like this come up. My favorite offer so far

To Philadelphia
Rick Nash

To Columbus

Michael Leighton
Andreas Lilja
Jody Shelley
5rd round pick.

Lol

Yea those are funny. I had a friend who's a Leaf fan say, after I suggested the Leafs would have to give up Lupul or Kessel in a trade for Nash, that the Leafs may only have to give up Schenn, an AHL player, and a draft pick for him. :huh:

Anyone who's going to get Nash will have to trade either their best player or best can't miss prospect for him, along with another great player, and a pick. Columbus is about to go bankrupt, they need at least one player in return that can put people in the seats.

A Blue Jackets-Flyers deal would probably include Giroux.

If Holland called Columbus (which I don't think he will) I don't think it's out of the question for the Blue Jackets to ask for Datsyuk in return to start the conversation, that's the type of deal it'll be.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 12:29 PM

When was the last trade deadline that had so many big names floating around?

I'm talking superstar players left and right.



yep, which will drive the price of them down. Lots of options = buyers market. Especially when there are only so many buyers.
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