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2012 NHL Trade Deadline Thread - February 27th, 3:00 PM ET


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#761 Detroit # 1 Fan

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 02:11 PM

This.

Everyone needs to chill out. Just because other teams are making desperate moves doesn't mean the Wings should.


How are those desperate moves? They paid decent prices on this kind of day, things we could've done. Fact is, teams were competing with are filling there needs going forward and as of now, we haven't. There's still lots of time, but those moves are good for the Canucks and Sharks, and that is bad for us.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 02:11 PM

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February 27, 2012 (8 Total Transactions)
Chicago Acquires: (D) Johnny Oduya
Winnipeg Acquires: TBA
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 02:13 PM

leafs, sharks, flyers, and maybe nyr in hunt for nash

2nd and 3rd going for Oduya

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 02:13 PM

People are forgetting about Quincey already. That's a significant move on defense that makes us better. Other teams are trading players but they're giving up players, too. Like someone said, Vancouver wasn't a Pahlsson away from winning the Cup. San Jose did get better, though, but they're already weaker than us in the standings.
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 02:13 PM

How are those desperate moves? They paid decent prices on this kind of day, things we could've done. Fact is, teams were competing with are filling there needs going forward and as of now, we haven't. There's still lots of time, but those moves are good for the Canucks and Sharks, and that is bad for us.

I thought a physical D-man who could play the PK was a pretty big need. That is filled by a 26 year old 6'2" 207 lbs defenseman who wasn't on Detroit a week ago...

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 02:15 PM

How are those desperate moves? They paid decent prices on this kind of day, things we could've done. Fact is, teams were competing with are filling there needs going forward and as of now, we haven't. There's still lots of time, but those moves are good for the Canucks and Sharks, and that is bad for us.

They are desperate moves because a lot of those teams HAD to make moves. The Sharks and Hawks are disasters right now. The Wings are not.

Personally, I'm glad Holland isn't a knee-jerker like some people here want him to be.
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 02:15 PM

both are 2013 picks for Oduya

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 02:15 PM

I won't be upset unless Brown, Ott, or Gaustad are moved for fair/low prices.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 02:16 PM

I thought a physical D-man who could play the PK was a pretty big need. That is filled by a 26 year old 6'2" 207 lbs defenseman who wasn't on Detroit a week ago...


But Kyle Quincey isn't an all star, how could he ever possibly help us out?

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 02:16 PM

I thought a physical D-man who could play the PK was a pretty big need. That is filled by a 26 year old 6'2" 207 lbs defenseman who wasn't on Detroit a week ago...


I thought the Wings D was solid before that trade. Wings D > Wings offense. That is the problem when the only offense is coming from your 3rd line your team has issues. This team desperately needs scoring. 6 shots on net in the first period against the Avs is pretty embarrassing.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 02:16 PM

And Oduya doesn't really make Chicago all that much better right now. Depth, I guess.
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 02:17 PM

I thought a physical D-man who could play the PK was a pretty big need. That is filled by a 26 year old 6'2" 207 lbs defenseman who wasn't on Detroit a week ago...


I agree. Kenny did a great job filling that need. Problem is, we have more then one need. We have a ton of assets, ton of cap space, and don't have a ton of scoring depth or grit on the bottom lines. Obviously we miss Datsyuk, but if we rely so heavily on one guy to spark the offense and the PP, we're in trouble. Likewise we don't have a strong 4th line center or much grit/big bodied players. Those types are available, like I said, time to make deals. I don't care what anyone feels, if Holland stands pat up front, I think it's a mistake.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 02:17 PM

It's gonna be funny in 5-10 years when San Jose sucks and the wings are still a solid team. Pretty sure they have one of the worst prospect pools in the NHL and they just traded more prospects lol!

San Jose's future after Thorton, Marleau, etc isn't going to be as bright as the Wings'

Still hoping the Wings make something happen here because everyone of our rivals has so far gotten better, at least for this year anyway!

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 02:19 PM

Nothing new out of Buffalo I'm told.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 02:19 PM

I agree. Kenny did a great job filling that need. Problem is, we have more then one need. We have a ton of assets, ton of cap space, and don't have a ton of scoring depth or grit on the bottom lines. Obviously we miss Datsyuk, but if we rely so heavily on one guy to spark the offense and the PP, we're in trouble. Likewise we don't have a strong 4th line center or much grit/big bodied players. Those types are available, like I said, time to make deals. I don't care what anyone feels, if Holland stands pat up front, I think it's a mistake.

I tend to agree with you, only because of Lidstrom potentially retiring. Like you said, they have the cap space. When was the last time that happened? If Holland was ever going to gamble, now is the time.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 02:20 PM

I thought the Wings D was solid before that trade. Wings D > Wings offense. That is the problem when the only offense is coming from your 3rd line your team has issues. This team desperately needs scoring. 6 shots on net in the first period against the Avs is pretty embarrassing.

What players traded today really do much for offense though. Jeff Carter, Steve Downie, Andrei Kostitsyn were the only top 6 guys traded. The rest of the forwards moved would fill the bottom 6. Its not like the Wings are missing out on tons of scoring forwards that have been moved.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 02:20 PM

How are those desperate moves? They paid decent prices on this kind of day, things we could've done. Fact is, teams were competing with are filling there needs going forward and as of now, we haven't. There's still lots of time, but those moves are good for the Canucks and Sharks, and that is bad for us.


Datsyuk will be our big acquisition. :rolleyes:
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 02:21 PM

Derek Roy may be a Blackhawk by the end of the day, one tweeter suggests.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 02:21 PM

I agree. Kenny did a great job filling that need. Problem is, we have more then one need. We have a ton of assets, ton of cap space, and don't have a ton of scoring depth or grit on the bottom lines. Obviously we miss Datsyuk, but if we rely so heavily on one guy to spark the offense and the PP, we're in trouble. Likewise we don't have a strong 4th line center or much grit/big bodied players. Those types are available, like I said, time to make deals. I don't care what anyone feels, if Holland stands pat up front, I think it's a mistake.


Past few days everyone is bringing up the scoring depth, which I simply do not get.

We have one of the highest scoring teams in the league and have TEN players with ten or more goals. We get a lot more scoring from the bottom two lines than most other teams get from their 3rd and 4th lines. That is the definition of scoring depth.

What we need is not depth scoring, it is high end scoring. It is a top 6 scorer that would help this team, and those players simply aren't available this TDL.
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 02:21 PM

Didn't Holland say over the summer that he was going to use the cap space he saved not signing a big name to get someone at the deadline?
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