achildr1 255 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 "Sorry Kindl, playing time is mine now." LMBO. Thank You. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sleepwalker 512 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 I mean he basically sent away our first round draft pick which i was hoping was going to be used in a package along with a player or two to land someone bigger at the deadline. This is what annoys me the most about this trade. I don't mind giving up a first round pick, but for Quincey? C'mon... 1 redwings1914 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fixxxer 11 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 I like Quincy but this is the dumbest thing I've herd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unsaddleddonald 357 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 LOGISTICS OF A DETROIT RED WINGS FIRST ROUND PICK: -Not a sure thing (late 1st round picks in the NHL aren't necessarily toss-ups, but they are far from a sure thing) -We wouldn't see whomever they drafted for AT LEAST 4 years anyway; so in the short term this is a good deal. 2 Byorski and Vladifan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacAttack25 44 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 I like the move as far as bringing him back goes, but I'm a bit on the fence about sending a first rounder the other way. I thought for sure our first rounder would go towards bringing a forward in. I just hope we don't have to trade Tatar, Nyquist, or Smith if we make another move. Either way, looking forward to seeing Quincey in the line up. Definitely an improvement on our blue line 1 Vladifan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingsRox 614 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 Looks like some kid named Quincey is thanking his lucky stars. Agent to Kyle, 'You've been traded from Col to Tampa.' Quincey, "Oh ...". Agent, "Wait, you've just been dealt to Detroit" ... Quincey, "OMG, is this for real? Tell me I'm not dreaming!" 10 55fan, LasVegasRocks, T-Ruff and 7 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwingfan19 293 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 Stuart has probably told Holland that he will not be returning and this is why Holland get Quincey to be Stuarts replacement next year. 3 DatsyukianDangles122, IILeiBlazeII and Aussie_Wing reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 1st rounder for Quincey... We are going to pick at last place so it isn't that bad, our 1st rounders are kind of very, very late (which is a great news for us). Let's trade Kindl to Islanders for their 2nd and it makes sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 does quincey play right side? i know he shoots left but we don't really need another guy on the left side with big e still around and kronwall and lids considering kindl leaves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Travis 576 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 My friend text me and I had to rush onto here, and Twitter. He said he was in 'Quincey shock'. Stuart is what I thought of as well. Kindl is the obvious guy to move but I don't think it would return much without yet more picks and prospects. Stuart to LA, some nice player in return, rather than another role playing D man or Penalty Killer, that we already have enough of to be honest LA's biggest need is offense, can't imagine he'd end up there. I think Kindl is much more likely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danielsm 244 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 What the hell man >.> does this mean we can get rid of Kindl and Ericsson? I would rather see Smith and Commodore over those two. 1 dobbles reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 quincey is a huge replacement over kindl, what if holland is expecting another team to overpay for kindl or someone else? (never know) huge replacement? worth a 1st round pick?? jesus at this point id much rather have gotten kubina for a 2nd and 4th , hes gonna be in the 3rd pairing and hes making 3 million a yr along with ericsson , thats 6 million total for our 3rd pairing , thats crazyyy And yes i do expect kindl gone with brendan smith up next year but theres no way in hell kindl will fetch a 1st round pick , we'll be lucky to get a 3rd for kindl i dont usually disagree with kenny but this is a disaster of a deal , much rather have given up the 1st for like selanne as a rental or someone of that type 6 sleepwalker, DatsyukianDangles122, Majsheppard and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tim.D 176 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) The rivalry is still intact! Edited February 21, 2012 by Tim.D 5 DatsyukianDangles122, Jedi, thegerkin and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jedi 1,865 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 The rivalry is still intact! That's funny! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 Kindl for Adam Larsson... 2 Mitchmac33 and Byorski reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwingfan19 293 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 Looks like Stevie did us a favor: Helene St. James @freepwings Close Little gem here: It was Yzerman who made this happen. COL didn't want what Det offered directly, so Yzerman (TB) got Quincey (con't) having pre-arranged what DET would give TB. Bear in mind, Wings 1st-round pick will be mid-20-to-30 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank Dats 'N Homer 81 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 LOGISTICS OF A DETROIT RED WINGS FIRST ROUND PICK: -Not a sure thing (late 1st round picks in the NHL aren't necessarily toss-ups, but they are far from a sure thing) -We wouldn't see whomever they drafted for AT LEAST 4 years anyway; so in the short term this is a good deal. While I understand your logic of it all i still see this as a bad trade for 2 reasons. 1 )Quincey, in my mind, is in no way shape or form worth a 1st round pick. I mean we essentially gave away our 1st rounder for a 3rd pairing dman. 2) Just lost our biggest bidding tool. I understand your point about a 1st round pick not being ready to play for 4 years, and I'm not disputing that claim. Nor am i disputing the fact that we can trade away our first round pick and still be successful in the draft. My only problem is now we don't have perhaps our biggest negotiating tool (the first round pick) to put a package together for a big name player, that with our cap space, i though we were for sure going to get. Now, if we are to make a bigger splash at the deadline we will have to ship out more of our prospects to land someone. Which kind of negates your point about the "having to wait 4 years for the player to be ready for the NHL" argument. We will have to trade more players that have already been drafted and have matured a year or two already in the minors who are closer to being ready to play. I just don't like how Holland has made this deal, whether it be a favor to Yzerman or whatever his logic is, i just hate seeing this first round pick go down the drain for a guy like Quincey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jusek 437 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 Er... what the f***? Well, at least he's still pretty young and has the potential, but I think 1st round pick is too steep. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
achildr1 255 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 Stuart has probably told Holland that he will not be returning and this is why Holland get Quincey to be Stuarts replacement next year. This. I would be surprised to see Stu back now anyway because i would hope we didnt trade a 1st for a 3rd pairing guy. I would imagine they want to give Quincey Stuart's playing time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holliday 1,888 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 I think people are overvaluing Detroit's first round pick, here. Quincey is a young defenseman who can help Detroit this season, fetch a low price during the offseason, and possibly get us a couple picks in compensation if someone else decides to throw an offer sheet. Not to mention Stuart may not be here next season and Lidstrom will either be getting marginally worse or retire. Doesn't hurt to have options. 18 thegerkin, Uncle Danny, hooon and 13 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vladifan 680 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 I think Kindl was being showcased for trade deadline. I expect Wings to move him soon. I really hope you're right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unsaddleddonald 357 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 While I understand your logic of it all i still see this as a bad trade for 2 reasons. 1 )Quincey, in my mind, is in no way shape or form worth a 1st round pick. I mean we essentially gave away our 1st rounder for a 3rd pairing dman. 2) Just lost our biggest bidding tool. I understand your point about a 1st round pick not being ready to play for 4 years, and I'm not disputing that claim. Nor am i disputing the fact that we can trade away our first round pick and still be successful in the draft. My only problem is now we don't have perhaps our biggest negotiating tool (the first round pick) to put a package together for a big name player, that with our cap space, i though we were for sure going to get. Now, if we are to make a bigger splash at the deadline we will have to ship out more of our prospects to land someone. Which kind of negates your point about the "having to wait 4 years for the player to be ready for the NHL" argument. We will have to trade more players that have already been drafted and have matured a year or two already in the minors who are closer to being ready to play. I just don't like how Holland has made this deal, whether it be a favor to Yzerman or whatever his logic is, i just hate seeing this first round pick go down the drain for a guy like Quincey. 1.) IMO, Quincey is a top 4 D-man to play on our 3rd pairing 2.) You're pretty much dead on here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 our first isn't really a great bargaining chip. it looks good on paper but when other teams throw a first rounder into a deal its a much bigger deal as ours is likely a 27-30. we will see either ericsson or kindl traded for an early second most likely at this point. I wouldn't mind unloading ericsson's contract or else we will have too many guys on the back end with 3mil+ contracts. so really its quincey traded for a pick maybe 8-10 spots later in the draft. not bad. CAN SOMEONE ANSWER THIS: does quincey play right side? i know he shoots left. but is he like stuart? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 huge replacement? worth a 1st round pick?? jesus at this point id much rather have gotten kubina for a 2nd and 4th , hes gonna be in the 3rd pairing and hes making 3 million a yr along with ericsson , thats 6 million total for our 3rd pairing , thats crazyyy And yes i do expect kindl gone with brendan smith up next year but theres no way in hell kindl will fetch a 1st round pick , we'll be lucky to get a 3rd for kindl i dont usually disagree with kenny but this is a disaster of a deal , much rather have given up the 1st for like selanne as a rental or someone of that type He has the chance to at least beat out stuart. He can also play on the PP instead of hudler. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tim.D 176 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 Quincey will play Thursday vs. the Canucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites