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#41 redwingfan19

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 04:00 PM

LeBrun: Red Wings inquired on Gaustad but didn't have what Buffalo wanted: a 1st-round pick (dealt in Quincey deal).


rather have quincey than gaustad anyways even though i wanted gaustad today
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 04:02 PM

Disapointed we didn't at least add a depth forward with size - I couldn't stand to see us getting out-muscled for the 3rd year in a row by San Jose.

This has the potential to be our year, the team is playing well, especially defensively and we're getting strong regular season goaltending for the first time in several seasons. Lidstrom has maybe 1 more year to go after this and we've got a large number of decent prospects, so I am disapointed we didn't do more with the assets and cap space we have.
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 04:05 PM

I do think the fact everyone else gets players and we sit doesn't look good.


Who's everyone? And we DID get a player.

Two reasons for this; the Wings had two really great drafts in a row, and that means if there was a time to trade a bunch of picks it would be now.


Like what? Our low second-, third-, and fourth-round picks in a weak draft? Do you think anyone would have jumped at the chance to trade for those? Did you forget that Holland DID trade away his highest pick already?

Secondly, the Wings demoted Franzen today and we could have used a player to fix the second line. The Sharks have beat us twice by neutralizing the first line and letting second line get beat badly by their top-six depth.


Like who? Did any second-line scorer get moved today?

Edited by Crymson, 27 February 2012 - 04:07 PM.


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Posted 27 February 2012 - 04:05 PM

One thing is for sure, we need to win the Presidents Trophy if were gonna win the Cup IMO. Home ice is gonna make a huge difference, this forward group has not been able to get it done on the road the past 2 seasons. Home ice and a deeper defence (knock on wood with health issues) could change that. I'll stay positive, despite not adding, because I still believe in Howard as a Cup caliber goalie :thumbup:

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 04:07 PM

I am pretty sure that this is the same team ( abeit Quincey) that just ran the table with a record setting 23 games at home. C'me on....this is a great team and the no one in this trade deadline got much better. We could have added some extra pieces but so could have a lot of teams.
We dont have the record that we do by being crappy



Nobody is saying the wings are crappy. The frustration is that the competition got a little tougher to play against, we are not doing well on the road & we are beginning to see the impact of injuries. We are not built for playoff hockey & will not survive. Sorry, we didn't improve when we could have.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 04:07 PM

One thing is for sure, we need to win the Presidents Trophy if were gonna win the Cup IMO. Home ice is gonna make a huge difference, this forward group has not been able to get it done on the road the past 2 seasons. Home ice and a deeper defence (knock on wood with health issues) could change that. I'll stay positive, despite not adding, because I still believe in Howard as a Cup caliber goalie :thumbup:


Second seed will keep us away from Vancouver until the conference finals, assuming they don't get bumped off by a Cinderella team.

St. Louis just needs to stop winning.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 04:08 PM

Wow, some people are REALLY taking this too far. This team wasn't struggling before the deadline by any means. With the recent news of defensive injuries, I would have bet a lot of grabbing a depth player, but that's purely so you're not scrambling if you get unlucky.

I've got faith in this team playing a lot more hockey, barring a string of injuries.

I agree.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 04:08 PM

No surprises really.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 04:08 PM

Nobody is saying the wings are crappy. The frustration is that the competition got a little tougher to play against, we are not doing well on the road & we are beginning to see the impact of injuries. We are not built for playoff hockey & will not survive. Sorry, we didn't improve when we could have.


Since you've a crystal ball, can you tell me who will win the Cup and in how many games? I'd like to place some bets in Vegas.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 04:09 PM

so, San Jose, Vancouver, Chicago and Nashville upgrade.. Lets hope Detroit can stay healthy for the duration of the season and playoffs. 8 defensemen suddenly turned into 6 (Commodore/Erricsson) ..and now reading Quincey and Lidstrom didnt practice.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 04:09 PM

Second seed will keep us away from Vancouver until the conference finals, assuming they don't get bumped off by a Cinderella team.

St. Louis just needs to stop winning.


Thankfully they didn't improve today either :hehe:

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 04:15 PM

I'm guessing the prices were just too steep for Holland. I'm glad he didn't make a move just for the sake of moving someone. We have a good team, when the Wings are playing there the best team in the nhl imo
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 04:17 PM

Even if we don't win it this year there's an offseason with good cap space and Stuart is most likely gone and Holmstrom may be gone. I see Lidstrom coming back but it will definitely be his last year. There's plenty of money to go for some good free agents and we didn't get rid of any good prospects.
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 04:17 PM

Holland made few moves in the offseason after Rafalski's retirement , because he looked forward to today. He kept that $5 million in cap space all season. And for what? By not adding any players today, the Red Wings basically sat on $5 million all season for no reason at all. It's not like we can keep that $5 million and add it to next year's cap space. We could have definitely used a rental player and given up picks for him.

Holland has been keeping us under Cap for this coming off season, when a lot of players will go UFA and we won't lose any depth picking them up. As for a rental player this year, before the Commodore deal we would have had to trade someone with a contract with those picks, and after the deal I haven't seen anyone I would want at the prices they went for, and from what I was hearing all day on the TSN Tradecenter stream the prices for anyone who I think the Wings could have used, like Ott, was way to high for what we would be getting in return.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 04:23 PM

I really want the deadline moved back to mid-march.
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Tootoo does NOT belong on this team. He is classless and I would rather see the Wings be bad than classless. I feel the same way about Bertuzzi as well, but he at least CAN make the team better. With Tootoo the team becomes worse and in danger of being classless. Would you have liked Claude on the team? Or Roy? No. So why would you be okay with that POS.

This thread has been closed due to emotions being higher than people's ability to read, interpret, and properly respond to simple posts.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 04:27 PM

As disappointing as this deadline has been, I believe the Standings and the NHL's 3 point system is to blame. As of right now there are so many teams in the Hunt cause of Overtime losses and the extra point it lowers the sellers and drives the prices up.

Three Point System__________________Two Points System
Capitals - 1 pt______________________ Florida - 2 pts
Leafs -3 pts ________________________ Leafs - 2 pts
Lightning - 6 pts____________________Tampa - 4 pts
Sabres - 6 pts_______________________Sabres - 6 pts
Islanders - 8pts _____________________Islanders - 8 pts

LA - 2 pts___________________________Avs - 0 pts
Avs - 2 pts__________________________LA - 8 pts
Flames - 3 pts______________________Flames - 8 pts
Wild - 5 pts ________________________Wild - 8 pts
Ducks 6 pts ________________________Ducks - 10 pts

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I believe that if the standings were in a 2 point system that teams like Calgary, Anaheim, Minnasota and LA might be more willing to sell. Im also still very surprised that NYI wasnt in a selllers mode

Edited by Crashnburnluder, 27 February 2012 - 04:48 PM.


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Posted 27 February 2012 - 04:30 PM

Since you've a crystal ball, can you tell me who will win the Cup and in how many games? I'd like to place some bets in Vegas.



I don't know who will win, but I know Detroit won't. Let me know when they hit 500 on the road.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 04:37 PM

I'm not worried or pissed but I am a little bit disappointed we didn't make some kind of splash today and address some issues the team has thats all.
Balanced is probably what I am, although that's just a polite way to say that you don't do anything very well.
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 04:39 PM

Facts from this season so far :
Detroit still has holes to fill.

Cleary, Franzen, And Hudler.

Franzen is just too inconsistent.
Cleary started out okay, and now he's back from injury so time will tell how many games it takes for him to find his stride again.
Hudler is having a better season than last..but still not on pace to reach career high in points. Also seems like he scores more in games that Detroit loses.
Our top scorers may not reach 20 goals this season (Datsyuk and Zetterberg)

These are all facts. Topics of conversation.. If I was Holland.. I'd prepare to shake things up this offseason. But i'm not Holland, so I guess we'll see what goes down. Who knows, maybe they win a cup?

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 04:42 PM

Count me in with the disappointed group. For the first time we had cap space and nothing (unless you count Quincy) :angry: God knows we need help! Can expect another one or two rounds and out.

Edited by RedWingsRox, 27 February 2012 - 04:42 PM.






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