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#421 ben_usmc

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 09:57 PM

Well I don't really want to get carried away and suggest we remove half the team or anything, but I think a healthy Cleary and Adbelkader replacing Emmerton and Holmer on the fourth is a huge improvment, and Eaves or Nyquist on the other wing with Helm and Miller is an improvement. That's only replacing two, which is more manageable. I get as frustrated with inconsistent play as most people do, and would love to see the wings making a big splash in free agency, but being the minimalist I am, I'm just trying to think of way to improve the team with essentially our current roster.



I agree with both statements. But I really don't see what either of those guys can do that Nyquist and Abdelkader couldn't do better, in the exact same positions. Basically I'd like to see this

Bert-Dats-Franzen
Flip-Z-Nyquist
Miller-Helm-Eaves
*Cleary-Abby-Mursak

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*Depending on how the knee feels Cleary and Eaves are interchangeable. I for one think the knee will be fine, and next year Cleary bounces back 100%
I think that's a huge improvement over the current team, and you don't have to go crazy in free agency to do it. Spend the money on Nick's replacement.

3 mill for a 4th liner is so s***ty.....I will say I have hated Cleary for 2 years now, so I'm not without bias, but man do I hate him, he is my new Jason Williams
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Posted 19 March 2012 - 09:59 PM

I am confident the Sharks will pass the Stars, which means we would play them if we finished in 6th place. We all know what happens when we play the Sharks in the playoffs.


Oh yeah, I forgot about that possibility.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 10:00 PM

If the Wings play the Sharks it'll be a race to see who can get swept first.
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Posted 19 March 2012 - 10:01 PM

This team isf****** worthless. I am not watching them again until the playoffs and that is just to laugh at how they are going to be embarrassed by just about anyone they play.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 10:02 PM

The only positive I can think is that last time we played thisf****** terrible for such a long period of team we started tearing s*** up afterwords. So hopefully they are getting the losing out of the way early so the winning can come when it's actually important.
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Posted 19 March 2012 - 10:02 PM

Just glanced through who the Wings have signed through next year. There isn't a forward spot open and one defensemen spot open. Someone has got to be traded, because the lines are essentially the same and clearly relying on so many role players isn't working consistently.

I don't know if Nyquist will stay another year in the AHL, but I'm assuming he stays up, as well as Smith. As of right now we have something like this:

Franzen-Datsyuk- Bertuzzi
Filppula-Zetterberg-Cleary
Eaves-Helm-Nyquist
Miller-Emmerton-Abdelkader

???-White
Kronwall-Quincey
Ericsson-Smith
Kindl

Any turnover is going to have to be forced. Of those remaining Emmerton needs to go, we need more depth at center. Honestly, though I'm not too bummed by the bottom two forward lines. It's just that the top two lines have been too inconsistent and need to be changed.


Even thought Nyquist is ready, I hope we push to sign Parise. He'd be the perfect fit in the top 6. And replace Emmerton with Prust on the 4th line. Also, Lids comes back.

Bertuzzi-Datsyuk-Franzen
Parise-Zetterberg-Filppula
Miller-Helm-Cleary
Prust-Abdelkader-Eaves

Lidstrom-White
Kronwall-Smith
Quincey-Ericsson
Kindl

That's getting way ahead of ourselves, but that would be great IMO :ph34r:

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 10:07 PM

^ gotta get either one of the 2nd line forwards on Datsyuk's line. Doesn't it seem boring for Dats to play with Floater and Bert for 2nd straight season?

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 10:08 PM

Emmerton's been here all season. He was a often healthy scratch earlier in the season, but has taken on a regular role with all the injuries.

I think a big part of the Wings' problem is complacency. The team rarely seems to play with any sense of urgency, and when they do, it's too little, too late. Underperforming players are almost never scratched or benched unless they're fourth liners or sixth defensemen. Franzen being demoted to the third line was, honestly, surprising. When's the last time a regular player was traded away or not re-signed in free agency? (Hossa was a cap issue, and I don't count Kopecky, he missed almost every playoff game.) They know they'll be back next year, whether they meet expectations or not. There is no fear of losing their jobs.
I heard an interesting quote on the radio around the trade deadline... basically it said the Wings overvalue their players and prospects, and undervalue players and prospects from other teams. Kind of goes along with Wisniewski's quote from last summer that the Wings "don't pay market value". Also explains why Holland didn't really improve the team last summer (despite the fact that he said the team "has to get better") or at the deadline this year. Money is no excuse, he had PLENTY of room under the salary cap.
If there's an early exit from the playoffs this year, there NEEDS to be change. Whether it's trading away a few regular players, firing Babcock (maybe the players are tuning him out?), or even Holland, something would need to be done. But the loyalty begins at the very top, so as long as Mr. Ilitch is still in charge, I don't see much change on the horizon.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 10:14 PM

already there


I meant 4th...was typing while being distracted
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Posted 19 March 2012 - 10:16 PM

Emmerton's been here all season. He was a often healthy scratch earlier in the season, but has taken on a regular role with all the injuries.

I think a big part of the Wings' problem is complacency. The team rarely seems to play with any sense of urgency, and when they do, it's too little, too late. Underperforming players are almost never scratched or benched unless they're fourth liners or sixth defensemen. Franzen being demoted to the third line was, honestly, surprising. When's the last time a regular player was traded away or not re-signed in free agency? (Hossa was a cap issue, and I don't count Kopecky, he missed almost every playoff game.) They know they'll be back next year, whether they meet expectations or not. There is no fear of losing their jobs.
I heard an interesting quote on the radio around the trade deadline... basically it said the Wings overvalue their players and prospects, and undervalue players and prospects from other teams. Kind of goes along with Wisniewski's quote from last summer that the Wings "don't pay market value". Also explains why Holland didn't really improve the team last summer (despite the fact that he said the team "has to get better") or at the deadline this year. Money is no excuse, he had PLENTY of room under the salary cap.
If there's an early exit from the playoffs this year, there NEEDS to be change. Whether it's trading away a few regular players, firing Babcock (maybe the players are tuning him out?), or even Holland, something would need to be done. But the loyalty begins at the very top, so as long as Mr. Ilitch is still in charge, I don't see much change on the horizon.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 10:18 PM

Well, on a good note, my sister attended the game and had her photo taken with Gordie Howe. She said he was barely audible and that it's pretty obvious that the end is looming for him.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 10:24 PM

^^^^THIS times one hundred!

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 10:28 PM

Hopefully Pat Lafontaine or Steve Yzerman falls to us in the draft.

Wait ... it's 1983, right?

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 10:46 PM

This team isf****** worthless. I am not watching them again until the playoffs and that is just to laugh at how they are going to be embarrassed by just about anyone they play.


Good riddance, please stay away from here, too. Thanks.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 11:09 PM

This team isf****** worthless. I am not watching them again until the playoffs and that is just to laugh at how they are going to be embarrassed by just about anyone they play.


I think you're the definition of a bandwagon fan, please stop posting here.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 11:16 PM

It is after games like this that I am ashamed to be a fellow Wings fan with some of you people! It is amazing how quick you turn on the very team that you claim to love and be a fan of. To the postter above, I bet when Nick comes back and the Wings get going headed into the playoffs you will be posting on here about what a great game the wings played, or the Wings looking great headed into the playoffs as a serious threat. I am going to keep my eye on your posts and if I see something like that I am going to remind you about the lame posts that you posted tonight.

For those of us Wings fans who remain LOYAL and have faith in our team, we will be saying we told you so when they start playing Red Wings hockey going down the stretch.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 11:17 PM

Good riddance, please stay away from here, too. Thanks.


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Posted 19 March 2012 - 11:19 PM

OMG shut up with the holland remarks... u honestly sound RETARDED!!! The funny thing is back at the beginning of the year when the Wings were going through a similar funk, everyone was saying the exact same things because it seemed like the end of the world. Now we are in another small funk (This time largely cuz of injuries) and you are all at it again. When the team gets going again and starts racking up W's, the same people saying retarded things about Holland and Babcock and whoever else will be PRAISING them... honestly if your a fan of the team than support it all the time, not just when its playing well!

Thank you. Instead of giving up on this team, I gave up on the thread. This is my first time on in over a week and I'm not planning on comin back until the wings start winning and these "fans" shut the hell up

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 11:20 PM

Well, on a good note....

Oh, man, i know you didn't mean it, but it doesn't sound right... good note and looming end...

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 11:24 PM

They haven't been healthy since the deadline. Their healthy roster looks DEADLY on paper. If you factor in franzen always stepping it up in the playoffs and helm (if the wings make it far enough for him to play) always providing energy, they should have nothing to worry about and make it out of the second round this year
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