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#61 Detroit # 1 Fan

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 09:04 PM

We could fall to 6th, but anyone thinking the magical switch is gonna flip with the way they've played on the road is delusional. We might beat Dallas, but we'd be crushed in the 2nd round. Something is seriously lacking in this team lately.

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 09:06 PM

I am going to go out on a limb with a really crazy idea. That the team you face, the way systems and players match up... means more than road/home. I actually don't mind the idea of starting on the road, because it is far more likely that the first two games are split historically than the home team takes both. With that it isn't that big of a deal. I really think it just helps for games five and seven.

The thread is about us being able to actually beat Nashville. I don't think we can do it right now. I think in the third round, if they are still in it... we would do better.

Yea I don't think starting on the road is that big a deal either. Just split the first two games, and you're good. After years of starting at home, it always was a lot of pressure to win both Game 1 + 2.
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 09:09 PM

We could fall to 6th, but anyone thinking the magical switch is gonna flip with the way they've played on the road is delusional. We might beat Dallas, but we'd be crushed in the 2nd round. Something is seriously lacking in this team lately.


I disagree. I think you can gain momentum and turn it around. I just don't think they can do it against a hungry team, with that good of a defense that Nashville has.

I think the Wings can beat Chicago, Dallas, and Phoenix... They MIGHT be able to beat SJ and LA, but I would rather take LA over SJ... Even though Quick could prob beat this team by himself.
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Tootoo does NOT belong on this team. He is classless and I would rather see the Wings be bad than classless. I feel the same way about Bertuzzi as well, but he at least CAN make the team better. With Tootoo the team becomes worse and in danger of being classless. Would you have liked Claude on the team? Or Roy? No. So why would you be okay with that POS.

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 09:15 PM

Well, now what do all of you say who insisted, 'Don't pick your poison BS'? It is a real possibility that we'll be in 5th, seriously ... you wouldn't prefer to play whoever is in No. 3 over Nashville? But come to think of it, doesn't really matter, even if we can get past round 1, we'll get our arses kicked in round 2. Let's face it, this team isn't Stanley Cup Finals material.

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 12:29 AM

Well, now what do all of you say who insisted, 'Don't pick your poison BS'? It is a real possibility that we'll be in 5th, seriously ... you wouldn't prefer to play whoever is in No. 3 over Nashville? But come to think of it, doesn't really matter, even if we can get past round 1, we'll get our arses kicked in round 2. Let's face it, this team isn't Stanley Cup Finals material.


I'd agree with you if I thought that Vancouver/whoever they would play was any better than us... St Louis could be our second round draw. Something tells me they aren't going to be exprienced enough to make it far. We could beat them. I don't know... I just think that if we are sixth, the WCF would be us and Nashville.

I think we aren't going to be ready for them in round one... but if they play Chicago and Vancouver... we might be able to take them.
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Tootoo does NOT belong on this team. He is classless and I would rather see the Wings be bad than classless. I feel the same way about Bertuzzi as well, but he at least CAN make the team better. With Tootoo the team becomes worse and in danger of being classless. Would you have liked Claude on the team? Or Roy? No. So why would you be okay with that POS.

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 02:12 AM

At this rate, 6th is exactly where they'll end up.

Something is seriously lacking in this team lately.


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Posted 31 March 2012 - 10:11 AM

We could fall to 6th, but anyone thinking the magical switch is gonna flip with the way they've played on the road is delusional. We might beat Dallas, but we'd be crushed in the 2nd round. Something is seriously lacking in this team lately.

You do realize that it's been a decade since we won a Cup without Ritola as a Black Ace, right?

For some reason, I believe in the "switch" more this year. The problem with it is that it only lasts a short while, maybe one round. Then, once we start winning, we get overconfident and fall into bad habits again, and find ourselves struggling.

We could beat Dallas. And then? I am afraid that is where the "switch" will short-circuit unless we got a team that had been nicely beaten up for us.

I'm not giving up. Far from it. I think a lot of the lethargy we've seen this year is that they don't feel challenged. They have played many games where they didn't have to give it their all to win. Howard kept them in some. Others were played against teams with injuries when we were healthy.

Our injury bug hit later than usual this season. Now that we've clinched, they are back to "ho-hum" playing. Perhaps there are more like Zetterberg and Cleary who are playing injured and are just playing to keep as healthy as possible, but it seems more like a mental thing.

Only time will tell.

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 12:49 PM

Well Dallas really hurt themselves last night, and the odds are that SJ or LA are the three seed.
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Tootoo does NOT belong on this team. He is classless and I would rather see the Wings be bad than classless. I feel the same way about Bertuzzi as well, but he at least CAN make the team better. With Tootoo the team becomes worse and in danger of being classless. Would you have liked Claude on the team? Or Roy? No. So why would you be okay with that POS.

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 03:44 AM

Saying it now... Phoenix is a much better option than Nashville.

It would have been like all home games.
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Tootoo does NOT belong on this team. He is classless and I would rather see the Wings be bad than classless. I feel the same way about Bertuzzi as well, but he at least CAN make the team better. With Tootoo the team becomes worse and in danger of being classless. Would you have liked Claude on the team? Or Roy? No. So why would you be okay with that POS.

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 10:42 AM

Saying it now... Phoenix is a much better option than Nashville.

It would have been like all home games.


Fenix would have tanked yesterday, knowing the Wings dropped to 6th.
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Posted 08 April 2012 - 11:01 AM

Would you really want to play Phoenix in the first round...AGAIN?

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 09:52 AM

I think we can safely say that we would have done better with Phoenix now...
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Tootoo does NOT belong on this team. He is classless and I would rather see the Wings be bad than classless. I feel the same way about Bertuzzi as well, but he at least CAN make the team better. With Tootoo the team becomes worse and in danger of being classless. Would you have liked Claude on the team? Or Roy? No. So why would you be okay with that POS.

This thread has been closed due to emotions being higher than people's ability to read, interpret, and properly respond to simple posts.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 03:21 PM

I think we can safely say that we would have done better with Phoenix now...

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 03:24 PM

I think we can safely say that we would have done better with Phoenix now...

Yup, Chicago is doing so well against them. Every game has been a dominating performance by the Hawks. :rolleyes:
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 05:13 PM

Yeah, not sure the opponent would have mattered. The Red Wings can't score goals. Look at the teams ahead in all four series in the West. The team with much better goaltending is leading the series. Mike Smith maybe isn't on Rinne's level, but he is very good and Chicago's shortcoming isn't lack of offense.

It's easy to play hypothetical pick your poison, but the Red Wings weakness doesn't translate well to playoff success regardless of the opponent.
 
 
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 06:21 PM

Does it really matter? You have to beat everyone and the Hawks aren't exactly doing that well against a very underrated Phoenix team. If we lose, rebuild and try again next year.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 12:10 PM

No, I want all the naysayers who negged me and such to have their crow and eat it too.

The point of the thread was to point out we weren't going to beat them in the first round, but we could beat them later on. We needed to get a grove we didn't have yet, and if we played PHX we might have won.

WE KNOW NOW WE DIDN'T BEAT NASHVILLE!!! That proves that 6th would have been a better outcome.

I took the crap for laying it down how it really was. You folks should stand up and recognize that IT WAS how it was. Eat the damn crow.
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Tootoo does NOT belong on this team. He is classless and I would rather see the Wings be bad than classless. I feel the same way about Bertuzzi as well, but he at least CAN make the team better. With Tootoo the team becomes worse and in danger of being classless. Would you have liked Claude on the team? Or Roy? No. So why would you be okay with that POS.

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#78 St. Michael (the Red Wing)

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 12:17 PM

It wouldn't have mattered if played Phoenix. Sorry. We sucked and would have sucked against them too.

We would have gotten beaten badly by anyone we played this year in the first round. Our team wasn't good at all going into the playoffs or the last 2 months of the season. Like it would have mattered (yeah right) our team was/is bad right now. lol

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 01:35 PM

No, I want all the naysayers who negged me and such to have their crow and eat it too.

The point of the thread was to point out we weren't going to beat them in the first round, but we could beat them later on. We needed to get a grove we didn't have yet, and if we played PHX we might have won.

WE KNOW NOW WE DIDN'T BEAT NASHVILLE!!! That proves that 6th would have been a better outcome.

I took the crap for laying it down how it really was. You folks should stand up and recognize that IT WAS how it was. Eat the damn crow.

Yup, we could have lost against Phoenix instead.

I agree you shouldn't have taken crap for it, but unless the Blackhawks just tore through Phoenix, your point isn't valid.
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Posted 21 April 2012 - 01:52 PM

If we play Phoenix, then Raffi Torres knocks Zetterberg instead who then might have long term concussion issues... and if it was a Detroit guy getting hit, Shanahan would have let Torres off with a fine because he doesn't want to be seen as playing favorites. Buttman would have backed him up too saying it was a hockey play and people are blowing it out of proportion.





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