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[RedWingsRox]

Glad I didn't waste my time to watch this game ... to Columbus, wtf???

[Vladifan]

I didn't see the game, but something hit me when I read all the comments about Franzen. I totally agree that he's more like a black hole than a valuable team mate. What's more it's dawned on me that his attitude is so bad, he probably wouldn't care if he's benched. Although I'd like nothing better than to see that happen. He.is.useless.

[haroldsnepsts]

The split personality with this team continues...

[CrimsonFlame]

Either Franzen is gone next year or Babcock is. Bank on it! It's obvious some players just aren't responding to Babs.

Frazen won't be gone. Nobody in their right mind would take that contract.

[wings_fanatic]

Some of you are ridiculous! Just last game everyone on here was loving the Wings and a loss, regardless of to who, those same some of you are calling for babs to be fired or Franzen to be traded. I wish our fellow fans were not so Two-faced!

Anwyays, I feared this would happen back on Monday. The Wings embarassed the Jackets in every single aspect. I feared first of all the Wings would come into tonight with their focus on Friday's game against the Preds and to add to that danger, I knew the Jackets would play strong to regain some of their pride. Disappointing loss for sure, but at least it will motivate the Wings to be ready for Friday at home.

Some thoughts on the game:
- Nick was outstanding and by far our only consistent player tonight.
- I thought Kronners and Stu had a lousy night for their standards... giving pucks away, falling down, backing up too much.
- Franzen was terrible, as many of you pointed out, but the difference is I knew he would not be good because he has missed games. He is not going to come back and magically just get going... he fought the puck at times tonight, mis-read plays. As expected, it will probably take him another game to get into form.
- With that said, I never have liked him playing with Pasha because he is just too freakin slow. Pasha has very little to work with and it showed tonight. While Hank and Fil have been good together, I think Pavs needs a better line to work with in the playoffs or we are doomed.

Nyquist- Datsyuk- Bertuzzi (Nyquist has speed, finish and actually tries every shift and this line looked good!)
Filpulla- Zetterberg- Franzen (I think Fil and Hank have been great and Franzen could become the big guy on that line that has been missing, and can score more ggoals than Hudler)
Miller- Abdelkator- Hudler (I think this is a solid 3rd line until Helm is back, and the addition of Hudler makes them 10 times better offensively without Cleary)
Cleary- Emmerton- Homer (decent 4th line... addition of Cleary makes more defensive line which is good)

- All in all, I think these would be the best lines to try for now as it provides the most team balance. If these lines do not work then I would suggest the Eurotwins to be reunited.
- Lastly, I think Babs was great tonight by not talking to the team. A coach blabbing does not work all the time and he is aware of that. By not talking he sent an even stronger message to the team and they knew that he was disgusted with that performance. Coaches have to pick their battles, and that is why Babs is the best coach in the world and that is why guys like Nick Lidstrom by into him and listen to what he says. Anyone that thinks Babs was dumb for not talking tonight does not truly understand the world of hockey.

- On a final note, Conks was NOT the reason for the loss tonight, but he just does not look confident in net. IMO a rusty Jimmy will be just as good against the Preds and with limited time left to get him in game form, might as well play him Friday.

[Motown4013]

this is by far Conks fault, seriously. Shut the f*** up and place blame where blame is deserved.

No
One very bad goal...one unlucky bounce..Two of the goals, a CBJ gets behind our D? C'me on. He is not gonna win the Vezina but Conks made some big saves when everyone was running around out of position. One goal is on Conks, the rest of the s*** is on the TEAM.
Stuart was brutal. The team looked lazy and, well...like we have looked on the raod for the most of the year.

[redwashington2000]

No
One very bad goal...one unlucky bounce..Two of the goals, a CBJ gets behind our D? C'me on. He is not gonna win the Vezina but Conks made some big saves when everyone was running around out of position. One goal is on Conks, the rest of the s*** is on the TEAM.
Stuart was brutal. The team looked lazy and, well...like we have looked on the raod for the most of the year.

DUDE QUINCY WHATEVER HISf****** NAME IS WAS BRUTAL A TOAL USLES GUY ON THE ICE, BAD MOVE BY HOLLAND TO MAKE THIS TRADE. WHEN HE JOINED THE TEAM ALL THE PROBLEM STARTED, I DON'T SEE HOW HE IS BETTER THAN KINDL

[haroldsnepsts]

DUDE QUINCY WHATEVER HISf****** NAME IS WAS BRUTAL A TOAL USLES GUY ON THE ICE, BAD MOVE BY HOLLAND TO MAKE THIS TRADE. WHEN HE JOINED THE TEAM ALL THE PROBLEM STARTED, I DON'T SEE HOW HE IS BETTER THAN KINDL

Even if you can't see it, Quincey is a much better than Kindl. He's no Lidstrom, but Quincey can handle big minutes, play on the PP and PK. Kindl is having trouble distinguishing himself enough to hang on to the 6th Dman spot.


And I think your caps lock is stuck.

[esteef]

^ Stop posting Kindl!

esteef

[SetecX]

In other news, the Kings won, Dallas won, and the Sharks lost in regulation lol.

[haroldsnepsts]

In other news, the Kings won, Dallas won, and the Sharks lost in regulation lol.

As a Kings fan, it puts me in the unfortunate position of rooting for the Canucks (to beat the Avs).

[irishock]

Vancouver getting the 1st seed over St.Louis might be a good thing ( I don't see Dallas/SJ beating Chicago in the first round). We'd be matched up against more than likely St.Louis in 2nd round

[Andy Pred 48]

If Babs is going to give Nyqvist 5mins a game now, he may as well keep Mursak in and let Gustav go back and help
GR try to get in their playoffs. That is a total waste of offensive talent being mis-managed. If we want to get our playoff lines running then fair enough, send the kid back to the Griffs and get on with it.

[RedWingsRox]

So I read now that we let an AHL goalie who has never played an NHL game beat us ...

[Doc Holliday]

Frazen won't be gone. Nobody in their right mind would take that contract.

Florida took Campbell's contract. And he was actually overpaid.

[clutchngrab]

I hope Babcock was just resting gus for the game on Friday, because that is the only excuse I can think of. I only seen him out there once in the third.

News flash - Babcock is not a good bench coach and never has been. Unlike Scotty, he's never shown an ability to adjust lines and ice time based on the what's happening in a particular game. He got out-coached by Blasma the last time we were in the finals and I don't expect that he's going to out-coach Ken Hitchcock to get out of the west. Basic execution on PP and PK are mediocre at best. Bad line changes and too many men penalties are too frequent. This team is getting sloppy in details and Babcock pouting like my wife isn't gonna fix it.

Either personnel needs to change or Babcock needs to go. Should be an interesting offseason.

[Nev]

This disaster would've never-ever happened under Scotty Bowman.

Yeah, thats right, because under Bowman we went 82-0 every season, won the Stanley Cup every year, and never ever got upset by a bottom feeder Gimme a break.

This team is not without its issues - Franzen, Cleary, the 4th line, road play - but after we blew them out Monday in an appalling effort by CBJ, this was always likely to happen.

[clutchngrab]

You guys realize that today if they end up in the 6th spot they get Dallas... Hmm maybe there is method to their suck.

[Dabura]

I wish our fellow fans team were not so Two-faced!

Fixed.

[Red Wings Addict]

...What the f*** was that?