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#21 Red Wings Addict

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 01:20 AM

The Wings believe that they will need him in the playoffs and because of injuries he has to get up to NHL speed. It's better if he does that now as opposed to during the playoffs. That's all I can think of.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 02:11 AM

What i don't get is why is he playing if his knee is hurt. If he needs surgery than give him surgery and if he comes back, great, if not oh well, his replacement can't do any worse.
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Posted 29 March 2012 - 02:13 AM

He is injured.


This excuse is bulls***. If he was injured, he wouldn't be playing. Simple as.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 02:53 AM

This excuse is bulls***. If he was injured, he wouldn't be playing. Simple as.


Because nobody ever plays injured. It's been noted multiple times by Babcock that he is injured. Sure he's useless right now but you win with players like Cleary in your line up in the playoffs.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 07:37 AM

Cleary is a good third liner and they need his depth for some years before they let him go. He had 26 goals last year and had some sick goals this year and Nyquist needs to stay in the AHL for a year or 2 more for him to develop.

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Nyquist is NHL ready....and he's got what? 3rd or 4th best point per game average on the team...ya, send him back to the minors and re-sign Homer and Emmerton. Holy s***balls, it's the Lolocaust in here! While we're at it, lets leave Tatar down next year too and re-sign Hudler for 4x the price...

Dan Cleary should be on the 4th line with Miller and Abdelkader.

This excuse is bulls***. If he was injured, he wouldn't be playing. Simple as.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 08:05 AM

Cleary is definetly not as effective as he used to be, he could be used as trade-bait during the draft or something or just not offered a contract at the end of this season. With all the new young prospects coming up they need to make room and Cleary would be an ideal player to move not sure what we could get for him in a trade but even a 6th or 7th round pick would be better than how he's played of late. This team has a lot of depth and if Eaves can come back from injury by at least next season, we'd still be plenty deep without Cleary. Plus I'm sure we'd find someone to replace him if we didn't offer him a contract and keep our depth. This is one of the reason's I'm actually a bit excited for this off-season, becasue I have high hopes and expectations that the Wings will have a roster shake-up in July whether it's a major shake-up or minor one.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 08:31 AM

I'm ready to sit him until the postseason. Give his ailments a little time to ease up, and maybe we can get a playoff round of good Cleary hockey outta him before his knee goes again.



I truely feel they have guys that can take his place right now so he can get better. Clears is clutch in playoffs and has a real deep tank and full of heart and a great playoff guy ( besides not everyone can play on one leg for the playoffs like Yzerman did) If Cleary was givin time to get healthy his game would improve. Until then ill take Mursak.
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Posted 29 March 2012 - 09:29 AM

Cleary is a good third liner and they need his depth for some years before they let him go. He had 26 goals last year and had some sick goals this year and Nyquist needs to stay in the AHL for a year or 2 more for him to develop.


Your post would have been correct if we were talking about last year. This year Cleary has been s***. The only time you notice him is when he takes the puck across the blueline along the wall. Gets the slightest of rubs from the defender and then falls down. In the rare event that he does get past the defender he usually takes a shot from between the bottom of the circle to the end line. This shows why he has the worste shooting percentage of Wings forwards other than Mursak yet is third on the team in shots. Nyquist is NHL ready and his recent callup has proved that. Of the 8 games since his callup earlier this month Nyquist scored in every game but 2 while playing 5-6 minutes a night less than Cleary.

If Nyquist spends another two years in the AHL it will hinder his development. Hes already a top player in that league and you get better by playing tougher competition. You get complacent by playing below your skill level. Yes usually the Wings let there prospects overripe but Nyquist and Smith are the best two prospects since Datsyuk and Zetterberg (both who never touched the AHL). Im hoping Babs is giving these last couple games for Cleary to try and work himself out but Ill bet you come playoffs Nyquist has more a chance of being in than Cleary.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 09:38 AM

You would think Cleary is just doing more damage to his knee then need be. Why not sit out, we have guys who can take over that spot.
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Posted 29 March 2012 - 10:51 AM

I'm sure Dan is a proud guy and doesn't want to sit unless he absolutely can't play, and I know Babcock will want him to play since he's a veteran. So, I don't see a remedy to the issue unless he hurts himself further and can't play. As far as contractually, he has a no-trade clause so he's not going anywhere in the offseason either.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 10:52 AM

The Wings believe that they will need him in the playoffs and because of injuries he has to get up to NHL speed. It's better if he does that now as opposed to during the playoffs. That's all I can think of.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 11:01 AM

Why is you still a fan?
Sweet. This dude was brought here for one reason, to punch people in the head - every other thing that he can do, other Wings can do better. I like that we have a head-puncher. The league has other, better head-punchers, but this one is ours. Better than nothing. Good work, Kenny!

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 11:06 AM

seriously? anybody who's ever played hockey in their life loves dan cleary....works hard, team guy, a guy i would never scratch.....there has been way too many topics hating on our players this year..."whats up with datsyuk?" "has zberg lost his touch?" "hudler blows like always" "big E is a *****" "franzen floats" "scratch bertuzzi" "homer sucks" and now cleary????? GM's would chop their own hand off to have a guy who plays with as much heart as cleary does. Ill go on record all day sticking up for cleary....some ppl on this forum i swear dont watch or have ever played hockey in their lives....this is the wings boys and cleary is the s***. that is all.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 11:13 AM

seriously? anybody who's ever played hockey in their life loves dan cleary....works hard, team guy, a guy i would never scratch.....there has been way too many topics hating on our players this year..."whats up with datsyuk?" "has zberg lost his touch?" "hudler blows like always" "big E is a *****" "franzen floats" "scratch bertuzzi" "homer sucks" and now cleary????? GM's would chop their own hand off to have a guy who plays with as much heart as cleary does. Ill go on record all day sticking up for cleary....some ppl on this forum i swear dont watch or have ever played hockey in their lives....this is the wings boys and cleary is the s***. that is all.


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Posted 29 March 2012 - 11:28 AM

seriously? anybody who's ever played hockey in their life loves dan cleary....works hard, team guy, a guy i would never scratch.....there has been way too many topics hating on our players this year..."whats up with datsyuk?" "has zberg lost his touch?" "hudler blows like always" "big E is a *****" "franzen floats" "scratch bertuzzi" "homer sucks" and now cleary????? GM's would chop their own hand off to have a guy who plays with as much heart as cleary does. Ill go on record all day sticking up for cleary....some ppl on this forum i swear dont watch or have ever played hockey in their lives....this is the wings boys and cleary is the s***. that is all.

you don't understand the 1difference betweeb Zetter and Cleary?
Sweet. This dude was brought here for one reason, to punch people in the head - every other thing that he can do, other Wings can do better. I like that we have a head-puncher. The league has other, better head-punchers, but this one is ours. Better than nothing. Good work, Kenny!

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 11:29 AM

Because nobody ever plays injured. It's been noted multiple times by Babcock that he is injured. Sure he's useless right now but you win with players like Cleary in your line up in the playoffs.


This would be the conversation if he was actually injured:

Babcock: "Cleary isn't doing anything for our team. If it's because he's injured, I think we should have him rest up and get healthy so he can be a good player for us."
Holland: "Ok"

.... later that day ....

Babcock: "Danny, your injury is seriously affecting your play so we're going to have to heal up so you can positively affect the team"
Cleary: "Ok"


Obviously that hasn't happened.



And Cleary used to work hard. He doesn't do s*** anymore.

Edited by Z and D for the C, 29 March 2012 - 11:30 AM.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 11:33 AM

While Cleary has definitely not been great this year, I still think he's one of the hardest working guys on the team. His injury has obviously affected his game a lot, but he's one year removed from a 26 goal season and everyone wants him gone. Everyone has off seasons, especially when they have a nagging injury. If you wanna start talking lazy players start watching Franzen out there and talk s*** about him! Yeah sure he leads the team in goals, but he's just so damn lazy it pisses me off. He could easily score 40 goals in my opinion, he just chooses not to put the effort in every game. Can't say the same for Cleary, he at least is trying to play on one leg!

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 12:50 PM

you don't understand the 1difference betweeb Zetter and Cleary?


never said anything about Zetters bucko.......we readin the same post lol?

seriously thou it angers me sometimes how much red wings fans complain about our own players when we make the playoffs and compete for the cup year in and year out....cleary is a fantastic hockey player and will be with this club for years to come so whining about him having a "down year" will do no one any good. i swear its like none of you watch him play....so what if his numbers are off this year...he brings GAME to the ice and the lockerroom everynight. hes not a numbers player anyway.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 12:57 PM

Cleary is definetly not as effective as he used to be, he could be used as trade-bait during the draft or something or just not offered a contract at the end of this season. With all the new young prospects coming up they need to make room and Cleary would be an ideal player to move not sure what we could get for him in a trade but even a 6th or 7th round pick would be better than how he's played of late. This team has a lot of depth and if Eaves can come back from injury by at least next season, we'd still be plenty deep without Cleary. Plus I'm sure we'd find someone to replace him if we didn't offer him a contract and keep our depth. This is one of the reason's I'm actually a bit excited for this off-season, becasue I have high hopes and expectations that the Wings will have a roster shake-up in July whether it's a major shake-up or minor one.

Cleary is signed through next season, so no chance of not offering a contract at the end of this year.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 12:58 PM

I agree that I am getting tired of people on here ragging on players this year. Looking at the date the threads are made hating on the players, it always follows a loss. Bertuzzi is having a great year playing with Pasha, while I dont like Ericsson myself you cannot deny he has been good on the pK, Franzen has an ability to put the puck in the net and has playoff potential still. With all that said, I have really grown to dislike Dan Cleary this season. I know he was great last year, and has been great for us often in the past, but this year he has flat out sucked. More than that, every time he is on the ice he is giving pucks away, wrong coverage, and taking dumb shots. I know he is playing injured and I respect him for that, but it is the point where he is actually hurting our chances of winning while he is on the ice. I am not saying get rid of him, I am saying sit him out for the rest of the year because he simply is too injured to be effective. Liek I said i respect him for trying to play through it, but I will respect him more if he can admit he is hurting this team by playing, and take a step back for the rest of the year.





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