Doc Holliday 1,888 Report post Posted April 1, 2012 Left him out because Wings will be stuck with him wih that god awful contract. Campbell's contract was far worse and they were able to ship it out. The Rangers were able to ship Scott Gomez to Montreal. If people honestly think Franzen has no value to any team in a trade, they are terribly undervaluing Franzen and his value to other GMs in the league. You won't get a star out of him, but you can get well-off serviceable players who can help make this team better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nuts2u 22 Report post Posted April 1, 2012 When was the last time the Wings traded one of their top 10 or even top 15 players for that matter? Help me out here cuz I've been thinking about this a bit and am too lazy (like Franzen) to do any research. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joshy207 156 Report post Posted April 1, 2012 When was the last time the Wings traded one of their top 10 or even top 15 players for that matter? Help me out here cuz I've been thinking about this a bit and am too lazy (like Franzen) to do any research. 06/07 Jason Williams to Chicago in Kyle Calder deal, 05/06 Jamie Rivers to Phoenix for pick, 03/04 Sean Avery and Max Kuznetsov to LA for Schneider. These are all borderline moves, Williams had been bumped down to probably 3rd line duty, Rivers was a 3rd-pairing D, Avery and Kuznetsov were 4th line and 5th/6th D, respectively. I don't remember any big off-season trades since Kozlov to Buffalo for Hasek in 2001. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nuts2u 22 Report post Posted April 2, 2012 06/07 Jason Williams to Chicago in Kyle Calder deal, 05/06 Jamie Rivers to Phoenix for pick, 03/04 Sean Avery and Max Kuznetsov to LA for Schneider. These are all borderline moves, Williams had been bumped down to probably 3rd line duty, Rivers was a 3rd-pairing D, Avery and Kuznetsov were 4th line and 5th/6th D, respectively. I don't remember any big off-season trades since Kozlov to Buffalo for Hasek in 2001. I've been saying for a while that a trade is the only thing that will get this teams attention and make them play their ass off. But also believe that Holland is incapable of even entertaining such a radical thought. 2 Dabura and joshy207 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,205 Report post Posted April 2, 2012 I've been saying for a while that a trade is the only thing that will get this teams attention and make them play their ass off. But also believe that Holland is incapable of even entertaining such a radical thought. Wow, maybe it's just my Blessed State of Intoxication, but I find myself agreeing with a lot of folks here tonight. Cheers! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joshy207 156 Report post Posted April 2, 2012 I've been saying for a while that a trade is the only thing that will get this teams attention and make them play their ass off. But also believe that Holland is incapable of even entertaining such a radical thought. Couldn't agree more. It's as if every DRW contract is a lifetime contract. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,205 Report post Posted April 2, 2012 (edited) For the record, and just to be absolutely certain we're all on the same page here - the 1997-98 Wings were The s***. Edited April 2, 2012 by Dabura Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Wings Addict 787 Report post Posted April 2, 2012 Yup - and I'm of the opinion those Red Wing teams from the late 90's (left-wing lock or not) would be a top team in todays game, and would be a favorite to win it all year in - year out. Who doesn't think this? Those teams were awesome. Although it's interesting to consider how guys like Murphy and Fetisov would adjust to the speed of today's game. I'd really love to see how Vladdy would do in today's game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13dangledangle 952 Report post Posted April 2, 2012 I would love to see one or two large hard nosed guys like Bertuzzi rounding out our bottom six. It's not abouting fighting per se but f*ck around and Ill f*ck you up that I like about him. Bert is one scary dude when you see him get mad out there. 1 lil Wing's fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites