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#161 Johnny Law

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 10:47 AM

So I take it you didn't watch game 4? Detroit has outplayed and out chanced Nashville. Difference is Nashville has capitalized on their chances, Wings did not. You can blame Datsyuk for not burying his multiple grade 'A' chances, you can blame Filpulla and Lidstrom as well.

I'm not disappointed with the team. I think they are playing the traditional Red Wings hockey that won cups in the past. This year they are not getting the luck or bounces or calls.


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Its 2003 just not quite as crazy, in the last 21 years there have been a number of times where after a particular series or game it looked pretty dark. In all those circumstances Kenny and Co came through and made the necessary tweaks and they brought home yet another cup.

Even if you don't think Kenny can do it, that he and the organization were lucky or now maybe they are too old you still owe him a chance. He's helped to give us 21 years of spectacular hockey and I believe a bunch more we just need to be patient.

I do think however the wings really need a 2nd/3rd line scorer with speed. Speed and grit would be nice but that's a tall order.

Edited by Johnny Law, 20 April 2012 - 10:48 AM.


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Posted 20 April 2012 - 11:00 AM

In my mind this offseason kenny needs to pursue Parise at any price up to 7.5mill. If that can't be done he needs to attempt to trade for Nash probably with Fil, Abby, next 1st, Prospect. We need a scorer that will score consistently in the regular and post seasons (not like franzen who hasn't done either this season). Beyond that try for Suter if possible, if not maybe try a trade for Schenn if its favourable.

Is there a kickstarter campaign for Jakub Kindl to never play another NHL game?


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Posted 20 April 2012 - 11:17 AM

Has anyone stopped and thought a second that it might not be the players, but rather those who prepare them for the game? You stick X player here and X player here you might squeeze a goal or two more in a SERIES, but really they have tof****** try and break into the box Nashville is placing in front of Rhinne / stop the late man coming into our own zone. If were up in this series does this thread even get made? I mean it would eventually, but not till July lol.
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Posted 20 April 2012 - 12:10 PM

Pretty sure the Sharks are going to be blowing up[ their team this offseason... would any of you guys like a Marleau trade straight up for Franzen...

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 12:19 PM

I'm not really in favour of signing Semin but people are way over blwoing his apparent worh ethic and ego issues. If you've watched any of the Boston/Washington series you'd know that those sentiments are not truly accurate. I'm not syaing he's the hardest working guy in the world but he's not the laziest. The defensive play he made in Game 3 was amazing by any one's standards.

It's like when people remember his one playoff series against MTL where he just couldn't score and had just 2 assists in 7 games and now claim that he's not a playoff performer without realizing he has 32 pts in 41 playoff games.

Again, I'm not saying I want him. But maybe let's turn down the blinders a bit


If the knocks against Semin are so overblown, why was he benched in the 3rd period of game 4 along with Ovechkin and Green?

Pretty sure the Sharks are going to be blowing up[ their team this offseason... would any of you guys like a Marleau trade straight up for Franzen...


Can't see the Sharks going for a straight up trade. We would have to add a little more, which would make the trade much more unappealing here.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 03:35 PM

So assuming everyone's plain A is to attempt to sign Parise and Suter,what do you think about plain B:to sign P.A.Parenteau and Jason Garrison?

Both are underrated,relatively cheap,shot right and could help our atrocious PP :cool:

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 03:55 PM

Petr Sykora and Sami Salo please.
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Posted 20 April 2012 - 03:58 PM

I'm always going to feel in my heart of hearts that with George Parros, this whole series would have been different.

I'll never get over knowing that.
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Posted 20 April 2012 - 03:59 PM

The plan keeps coming up again....

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 04:26 PM

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Gustav Nyquist ($0.875m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Zach Parise ($7.500m)
Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m)
Danny Cleary ($2.800m) / Darren Helm ($1.500m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m)
Justin Abdelkader ($1.000m) / Zenon Konopka ($0.700m) / Gregory Campbell ($1.500m)
Drew Miller ($0.838m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Ryan Suter ($6.700m)
Ian White ($2.875m) / Brendan Smith ($0.875m)
Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m) / Kyle Quincey ($3.250m)
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m)
Joey MacDonald ($0.550m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,025,379; BONUSES: $37,500
CAP SPACE (21-man roster): $1,274,621
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Posted 20 April 2012 - 06:17 PM

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Zach Parise ($7.000m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Jarome Iginla ($7.000m)
Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m)
Gustav Nyquist ($0.875m) / Darren Helm ($1.200m) / Danny Cleary ($2.800m)
Justin Abdelkader ($0.850m) / Gregory Campbell ($1.200m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m)
Drew Miller ($0.838m) / Brian McGrattan ($0.545m)
DEFENSEMEN
Nicklas Lidstrom ($4.000m) / Ian White ($2.875m)
Brendan Smith ($0.875m) / Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m)
Kyle Quincey ($3.000m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m)
Matt Carkner ($0.700m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m)
Joey MacDonald ($0.550m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,615,833; BONUSES: $37,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $684,167

I saw a few rosters so he's my pipe dream scenario. Parise for 7, Campbell for 1.2, McGrattan for 545k and Carkner for 700k. Franzen+Emmerton+Kindl+2nd 2013 for Iginla. Promote Smith and Nyquist. Would never happen, but it's always cool to see it's possible :hehe:

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 09:34 PM

Now that it's all over I'm thinking that after what we all saw that Kenny HAS to make changes.

No "Well we were neck and neck with them the whole way and bleh bleh bleh."

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 09:37 PM

Hopefully to look for a newf****** job. :ranting:
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Posted 20 April 2012 - 09:39 PM

We need a fire sale!!!!
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#175 Electrophile

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 09:40 PM

What's his off-season plan? Hopefully joining the ranks of the unemployed by looking for a new job.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 09:41 PM

It's a bummer such a historically high first round pick for the Wings was traded away

#177 Bring Back The Bruise Bros

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 09:41 PM

I like our team. Eaves coming back will be our free agency acquisition.
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Posted 20 April 2012 - 09:42 PM

It's a bummer such a historically high first round pick for the Wings was traded away


As I said in the GDT, can we call Yzerman and have a do-over in that trade?
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Posted 20 April 2012 - 09:43 PM

They need major upgrades seemingly everywhere.

Top six, bottom six, top and bottom dmen, backup goalie....

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 09:45 PM

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