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[b.shanafan14]

If Hank were Crosby, Weber would be suspended for the remainder of the Preds' run.

But, as it is, I'll be amazed if he gets even one game.

My feeling is that anything cheap that happens after the final horn should be punishable with at least a fine if you want to put an end to the gooning BS when the game is over. Gaustad got a big chop in on the legs of Datsyuk during that same sequence.

You are completely right, if you put Crosby in Hank's position there would be levied a suspension to end all suspensions. The media would be calling for blood, and everyone on Pittsburgh would be interviewed two or three times so they can squeeze in buzz words like "no respect" or "gutless. Then again, if it happened to Sid he would milk it for all it was worth, sit a few games and pout.

To everyone in the media I've heard, the intent was clear and the act was terrible, but since Zetterberg didn't appear injured and the league only cares about the results, no suspension for Weber. Basically, his act was heinous but he executed it poorly because he didn't succeed in injuring Zetterberg... I'll let that sink in for a second.

And the cherry on top is the actual "hockey play" that occurred - Hank went into a scrum and bumped Weber to get the puck as Weber turned to put himself in the position to protect it - is the subject of the counter-whining from Trotz and Weber, even being called a "hit to the head". What a smart league would say is "average play results in extraordinary retaliation", using it to prove intent. What this league will do is take the easy route of doing nothing because Zetterberg was not injured, Weber has no "history" to my knowledge, and will say the turnbuckle headshot Zata took was simply a ***-for-tat in post-game chippiness (which it was not).

Prepare to be sickened yet again, Red Wings' fans

Edited by b.shanafan14, 12 April 2012 - 07:06 AM.

[WorkingOvertime]

Please, I was at this game & Weber put no mustard on that "head smash" as everyone in red keeps referring to it as.

I'm sure Weber didn't appreciate being run at high against the boards with merely a few seconds left when he has already been out this season from a concussion.

I guess you have an excuse for Bertuzzi coming over to Gaustad and delivering a vicious shot to his face as well? I guess punching someone in the face 30 seconds after the final horn is perfectly acceptable?

A punch is a (relatively) normal hockey play. Grabbing a players head and forcing it into the glass is not. The punch by Weber was okay, but the following act was not.

Gaustad had slashed Dats in the back of leg and then tried to engage him. Gaustad wanted to engage a player after the game. Bert obliged and Gausted predictably calmed down.

[b.shanafan14]

1) Please, I was at this game & Weber put no didn't get enough mustard on that "head smash" as everyone in red keeps referring to it as.

2) I'm sure Weber didn't appreciate being run at high against the boards with merely a few seconds left when he has already been out this season from a concussion.

3) I guess you have an excuse for Bertuzzi coming over to Gaustad and delivering a vicious shot to his face as well? I guess punching someone in the face 30 seconds after the final horn is perfectly acceptable?

1) Fixed. The fact that Weber didn't succeed in injuring Zetterberg doesn't change the act or the intent. He didn't get "mustard" on it because its pretty difficult to grab a man's head and slam it into a surface without a good grip; Zetterberg was protected by his helmet and the lack of grip in Weber's glove.

2) "Run high with a few seconds left"? Bumped from behind in a position he put himself in to protect the puck from a player trying to tie the game late. That's a hockey play, happens at least 30 times a game and isn't called as boarding or anything. And despite the counter-complaining Trotz and Weber, Zetterberg didn't "hit him in the head".

3) Have you watched the replay? After the faceoff, Datsyuk is standing there, watching the play in the corner, Gaustad, 4th liner, took several chops to the legs of the Wings' best player who missed time with leg injuries, after the whistle and then proceeded to get in his face. Big tough guy. When Bertuzzi went over to give him someone his own size to start crap with, Gaustad predictably hid behind the officials and continued to talk. So yes, it is perfectly acceptable.

Edited by b.shanafan14, 12 April 2012 - 07:50 AM.

[PROBIE4PREZ]

If Franzen didn't get suspended for clocking Montador at the end of that Hawks game I can't see how this is suspendable.

[The Secret]

Filth... That crap needs suspension. We are lucky Z wasn't injured AND with seconds left in the game AND with Bettman in attendance?! 2 games for being a Roid-Raging Thug! I want to hear Gary Bettman deliver that speach as to why Weber is being suspended.

It's sad when Shanahan is still our only enforcer.

Hilarious! Good one.

[matt198913]

Apparently hank spent some time in the quiet room last night according to 97.1

[55fan]

What's the deadline for try-out contracts like the one we signed Sheahan for?

In other news, D-Mac isn't under contract with anyone.


I hope Weber gets
1) suspended
2) fined
3) Kronwalled
4) beaten down
5) sent golfing in about, oh, say... a week, give or take a day or two.

[RusDRW]

Please, I was at this game & Weber put no mustard on that "head smash" as everyone in red keeps referring to it as.

ooh well, if you were there then everything is fine. This indeed changes everything. No suspension.

[mmamolo]

Not sure if I want Weber on the Wings if he's gonna pull s*** like that.

Whether we all like Weber's actions last night or not the fact is Weber is a player who straddles the line of dirty within the rules or a cheapshot artist who deserves repeated suspensions. Weber is the new age Chris Pronger. The fact that he is so big, and so mean, is a huge factor in making him as good as he is. To me, I may not like certain individual plays he makes but I haven't seen him do something so absolutely outrageous that I wouldn't want him on the Wings. I would still take him in a heartbeat.

Bob McKenzie twitter

McKenzie has it perfect. I absolutely guarantee there will be NO suspension. The worst part about the play is that it happened with no time on the clock (essentially) and Preds fans and the league will just hide behind the fact Webere received a roughing minor while the Wings didn't even get a chance to take advantage of that fact.

ooh well, if you were there then everything is fine. This indeed changes everything. No suspension.

ha if anything the fact that he/she was there would just make it even harder for him/her to have seen the play. When you go to a game how much crap in the scrums do you really see?

[cprice12]

It would have been an unbelievably weak boarding call, even for this game.

Z comes up behind Weber and rolls off the hit. That kind of thing happens every game. Weber's reaction was ridiculously disproportionate to Zetterberg's hit, especially considering he just won the game.

It's technically boarding. He hit Weber from behind while Weber was facing the boards, and Weber's head hit the glass.
I'm not sure why it matters that Zetterberg "rolled off" Weber. It's still boarding. I'm sure all Weber cared about was the fact he felt he got boarded, and he said as much in the paper.

I'm not condoning Weber's actions at all, it was a classless play. But it's obvious by watching the replay that is why he was upset. I'm surprised you guys didn't mention that sooner (well, not really surprised). Like I said, Weber should have dropped the gloves, that would have been the way to go. It would have put an exclamation point on the game...instead, he did something stupid.

If he doesn't get suspended...that will be a shame. I think he deserves a game for that.

If Franzen didn't get suspended for clocking Montador at the end of that Hawks game I can't see how this is suspendable.

That is an excellent point.
I was shocked Franzen didn't get a game for that.

[evilzyme]

http://twitter.com/#...269292716109824

Ndamukong Suh‏ @DirtySuh FollowI will find Shea Weber

rofl, i don't know what i'm doing with this "twitter" thing, but Suh made some funny "tweets" about Weber.

Edited by evilzyme, 12 April 2012 - 08:37 AM.

[saven]

Here's my take; is this incident really that much different then the Burt , Moore punch other then the outcome ? A player punches another player from behind when he defenseless ( with webber adding the turn buckle move for good measure ) . I know this type of play happens often but really if the NHL wants to send a msg that these type of plays wont be tolerated then they need to suspend webber and for more then one game, does it take an injury That ends a career for the league to take notice. I know a lot of people won't agree with me and I accept that but what if z had been seriously injured ( a fact that we still don't know ) would the league then step in ? I wan't an NHL that is proactive in protecting players, not reactive.

Edited by saven, 12 April 2012 - 08:43 AM.

[sputman]

hmm, so weber's kind of an idiot, eh?

[Hairy Lime]

Wow. Just wow....Take another look....Zetty is fighting for the puck and trying to check Weber off the puck....he didn't initiate a fight...he made contact with him.
Lastly, Bert did go after Weber but there was a linesman to break it up. You are neutered.

No, Zetterberg came in a little high and from behind, and Weber took exception. But yes, Weber's reaction was unacceptable and I am not excusing it, but it was not as baseless and as dirty as some are trying to make it out to be. Take off your rose-colored glasses.

Will Weber be suspended? I don't know? It did not look as bad to me as some of you are making it out to be, and I just watched it several times. When I played hockey, stuff like that happened every shift, and if you wanted retribution you got with your fists. Red Wings fans have become soft, as have the Red Wings, as we all know. And yes, blows to the head are absolutely unacceptable, but lets keep things in perspective. Zetterberg's hit was not much, but it was probably enough to get the ire of most red-blooded defensemen. Not excusing what Weber did, and he may be suspended and I will have not problem with that, but just don't act like Zetterberg was without fault. I love the Wings, but I also like to keep things in perspective. Suspend him, don't suspend him, Bowman would of just sent out Kocur, McCarty, Lapointe, Shananhan or Rouse, or whoever, in game 2.


This team has no 4th line, that is the problem.

Oh, and it looked to me like Bert was after Gaustad, not Weber.

[13dangledangle]

hmm, so weber's kind of an idiot, eh?

This is what I am starting to think.... unfortunately no one on our squad other then Bert has much of a chance against this guy, so Id perfer they explode offensively instead and light up Rinne and get this series going.

[jeff48109]

http://twitter.com/#...269292716109824




rofl, i don't know what i'm doing with this "twitter" thing, but Suh made some funny "tweets" about Weber.

thats a fake account!

[cprice12]

Here's my take; is this incident really that much different then the Burt , Moore punch other then the outcome ? A player punches another player from behind when he defenseless ( with webber adding the turn buckle move for good measure ) . I know this type of play happens often but really if the NHL wants to send a msg that these type of plays wont be tolerated then they need to suspend webber and for more then one game, does it take an injury That ends a career for the league to take notice. I know a lot of people won't agree with me and I accept that but what if z had been seriously injured ( a fact that we still don't know ) would the league then step in ? I wan't an NHL that is proactive in protecting players, not reactive.

Bertuzzi ended Moore's career.
Zetterberg is apparently fine.

The outcome is a huge part of it. I don't think they are comparable at all.

[matt198913]

ooh well, if you were there then everything is fine. This indeed changes everything. No suspension.

I loled at that

Maybe a ten bell Kronwallian will change coach Trotz mind. Maybe deliver it to Radulov who seems to always have his head down

[mmamolo]

I loled at that

Maybe a ten bell Kronwallian will change coach Trotz mind. Maybe deliver it to Radulov who seems to always have his head down

I was honestly begging for Kronwall to lay some one out last night. Either way, it will happen sooner or later and when it does I will severely enjoy reading all of the outraged internet talking heads freaking about how dirty it was or about how he left his feet and blah blah blah. It will be awesome. I'm predicting Game 4 for someone to get Kronwalled.

[Nightfall]

If Franzen didn't get suspended for clocking Montador at the end of that Hawks game I can't see how this is suspendable.

I have to agree here.

The Weber hit was egregious, but Franzen should have gotten a game for the punch on Montador.



Franzen didn't get suspended, and I bet that Weber will be playing game 2.