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So Wings fans can't still be mad at Weber for something he did 2 games ago, but Preds fans are getting pissy about Bertuzzi taking a ping pong table away? Johnny Cochran says that just doesn't make sense.

Also to add what's the difference between Wings fans playing the we have more cups then you card and fans of other teams playing the if you're a Wings fan you are probably a bandwagoner.

Also didn't Rinne (isn't he supposedly better then Howard) get Sniped by Emmerton? If he can do it then the other Wings should have no problem doing it. See I can play that game too

Now I know you'll probably comment on my joined date so lets get that out of the way. I'm not a big fan of forums too many idiots and whiners so I was slow to join this site when I learned about it.

Does my date coincide with me being a bandwagoner? Nope, I've like the Wings since 92 (I was 7) they were involved in the first game I ever watched on TV and I picked them because I liked the color red. Doesn't make me a bandwagoner? No, that makes me a kid who picked his team based on the color jersey they had.

Now that that's out of the way, I've noticed your joined date, why didn't you join the forums the last 2 times the Wings and Preds played in the post season? Now I won't accuse you of being a bandwagoner, partially due to the fact you guys just barely won your first playoff series but I will say I'd wager you joined so you could rile up us Wings fans, because now you feel confident with that first series win and the fact you finished higher in the standings this year.

With all that said I think what Bert did was funny.

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First off let me say this: I like to post on here, I try to daily because it's a good site for all things Red Wings, yet more than posting on here I like to pick apart people's incompetence... so I shall begin.

You guys need to learn the meaning to words before you erroneously throw them around.

"In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community."

I have done no such thing. I'm commenting on the topic of Baby Bertuzzi allegedly pulling this little stunt. Then commenting on how thrilled you guys get over it when you should be worrying how you're going to get pucks past Pekka Rinne and convince Howard to actually stop a few.

First of all, I'll agree you came in on topic and didn't troll. Then you proceeded to troll. This post isn't about Rinne and Howard ∴ trolling - this is indeed trolling as well because you could barely stick a cigarette paper between the two. Rinne has given up 7 goals, Howard 8. They've both made good saves but have been fairly average.

Oh and please keep being original and telling me how I have sexual relations with sheep, live in Hickville oh and ever so fresh "We have more cups than you" jab that is universally known as the Bandwagon Red Wings insult.

I don't give a damn where you come from, frankly I don't know you. That said, it's your posts make me think you're an idiot, which is fair because they're all I've got to go on. Just as you'll probably think I'm an idiot after this. That's fine, maybe one day we'll bump into each other in a bar and realise we're both awesome. However, I'm not going to tell other people to stop saying it, it's their choice.

It's equally cute seeing Red Wings fans getting all bent out of shape because the Preds finally finish above them & pretending it doesn't. Of course I am happy because we finished above the Red Wings, not only for bragging rights but home ice advantage.

It has become apparent in the world of hockey "fandom" that Red Wings fans can't accept anything negative about their team.

I was told yesterday in this forum's very chat room that Nashville won game 3 because of the refs and because we were "goons."

1)Home ice hasn't been all it's cracked up to be, not just this series but ever series. It's yet to be seen whether that's a game-breaker.

2)You've obviously not been on this forum long enough if you think "Red Wings fans can't accept anything negative about their team". Obviously never seen the '[name] is lazy and he sucks' topics.

3)Tell me, in all honesty, that no Nashville fan has ever said the refs cost them a game. It's sports.

Yeah but guess what...they don't! They are a little more classy and tend not to use winning something in the past as a CURRENT reference to their team.

The bad thing is the majority of Red Wings fans who throw that stat out there have not been alive for more than the most recent 4, yet live off the others like they were in some guys testicles wearing a Gordie Howe jersey.

I just find it silly to resort (when losing a battle of wits) to bringing up things that happened 20+ years prior to my birth.

This is illogical. No one in here mentioned winning cups in the 50s. They said we've won more. Which is both true and fair. If forced to be specific, most fans here WOULD simply mention the 4 since '97 as they're the ones they were lucky enough to see. What's more, they can still talk only about the ones they were alive for and the fact "we've won more" would still ring true.

ANYBODY on the Red Wings could score on the Preds and it wouldn't hold a candle to KEVIN KLEIN putting a move on your defenders and going shelf on Jimmy Howard. I think all of us hicks down here in Nashville spit our dip all over the screen when that happened. I know we had a good laugh about it. "Hell if Kleiner is scoring then I know we got this series in the bag" was one of my favorite quotes from the viewing party.

Enjoy your thriving economy in Detroit!

The last comment is trolling, which of course you said you weren't doing. Clever. The first comment is for reference below¹

I noticed you joined this site after they won their last Cup...coincidence?

I'm sure it's not.

Either that or you were late on the whole "Internet" boom thing...doubtful though.

The person you posed this question to has replied since so you'll know that he's only 18 and therefore was 15 when he signed up. Plus it's irrelevant. I can see YOU'VE only joined this site since the Preds had even the slightest chance in hell of beating the Wings in a 7 game series. Coincidence? Don't give me that bull.

See here is the big difference between our fans.

I have NEVER said the Red Wings were trash or not talented.

I have NEVER dismissed the fact they have a history of excellence eras.

11 Cups is a nice stat for a team, and apparently for a fan to toss around like a used hooker.

Nashville has no Western Conference Titles, Division Titles or Stanley Cups but I hardly hold those stats against them when referencing their current and past talents. Let's be real here the Red Wings have been around what... 86 years vs the Predators 14. It's not exactly fair to compare in that essence. Stop playing hockey for 72 more years then let's compare our team's accolades. Until then stop riding the high horse of a franchise that did most of that before 95% of you were even thought about.

That's what truly makes you look dumb IMHO.

This is referencing the above post¹. To the comment "I have NEVER said the Red Wings were trash or not talented.", I retort with "ANYBODY on the Red Wings could score on the Preds and it wouldn't hold a candle to KEVIN KLEIN putting a move on your defenders and going shelf on Jimmy Howard." Somehow I think this is trashing the Wings, saying they're not talented if they can't, "hold a candle to KEVIN KLEIN". Not to mention Datsyuk robbing your defenceman and sticking it past an onlooking Rinne made them both look pretty silly.

I only managed to get to this point in your posting before I had to reply. You're contradictory, and your arguments are fueled by anger, which means you post without thinking. This leads not only to fragmented arguments that can be shot down rather easily, but also IDIOCY.

To quote yourself, "That's what truly makes you look dumb IMHO".

EDIT: Had to put the Datsyuk goal in there... how could I not?

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Just two more, I promise.

Well excuse me for being defensive minded when it seems I'm attacked from all directions for simply being a Predators fan with an opinion. Apparently I should be burned at the stake.

I'm personally not attacking you for "being a Predators fan with an opinion". I simply think your argument is ill-conceived and therefore needs commenting on.

Actually I will talk hockey all day with you.

I sincerely hope you do, as all hockey talk is good talk and we're not for turning people away here.

Like I said on the Predators board I frequent we are having civil conversations with Wings fans and not one name has been called. So if anyone is Hostile I'm sorry to inform you it's the Red Wings fans on this site. At least the ones I've encountered.

I think it's a little naive to say the Red Wings fans on this site are all hostile. Some may get heated in argument but that will pass and I'm sure you'll have opportunities to have good conversations with them at some point when The Wings and Preds aren't battling it out for a first round victory. As for those in the chat, they were probably just annoyed that the team they love lost. Everyone reacts differently.

"Correlation must be two too many consonants"

How does that even remotely make sense.

The relationship between the two comments must be too many speech sounds for me to mentally grasp?

In fairness, I think you eventually grasped what was happening with this, but what you were thinking of here ^ was most likely 'syllables'. Easy mistake to make.

I mention these two because they are trolling. Plain and simple. It's sometimes nice to have a bit of a discussion with someone, but they're way off the topic of Bert's mindgames. It was funny, and an attempt to make the Nashville players feel uncomfortable about the game at the Joe tonight. I'd expect Preds players to do the same as lets face it, sports teams aren't out to make their home an enjoyable place to come and play. Bert making it a fortress (what they like to say over here about silly soccer teams <_< grrr I hate when they say that but it's apt).

Really do hope you stick around though as I'm sure you really do like to talk hockey, and that's good in my books

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I came across that picture just as PingPongGate was breaking, couldn't help myself :hehe:. Glad someone else got a chuckle out of it!

Made me laugh out loud as well! I want to photoshop the picture and comment together and post it on my facebook so badly! Haha! Too bad I don't have photoshop anymore :(

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i don't see a thing wrong with the preds using the red wings ping pong table,it was siting in between of the red wings locker room and the visitors locker room,if the red wings did not want the preds to use the table than they should of put it away,so nobody would think it was siting there for anybody to use.

man, you dont get it. everyone here has already understood this fact perfectly. stop make your self even more funny...

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Do you think anyone's messing with the thermostat in the Pred's room? Remember hearing those classic tricks that Bowman pulled?

WE should be doing everything humanly possible and within the rules to make it absolutely miserable on the opponent.

I think the visitor locker rooms need a fresh coat of paint after Weber has been showing off his head bashing skills to anyone who thinks it's funny.

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Don't waste your breath.

Here's a few tips from a Blues fan who has visited/posted in this forum off and on for the past 10 years...

- When Wings fans here start breaking out the "How many cups have you won?" Just smile and move on. It is very predictable and you can usually see it coming. It's the equivalent of them running out of bullets in a gun fight and throwing the gun. It happens all of the time.

- Some fans here will question why you are posting here. Those fans do not understand the benefit of having other team's fans contribute.

- You will be called a troll by some. Those particular folks do not know what the definition of a forum troll is...as you rightfully pointed out.

- A few members here (usually newbs) will call you names, attack you, ridicule you and harass you, even if you are simply talking hockey. But don't try to laugh it off or God forbid zing them back, you may get a warning from the staff...or maybe that only happens to me. :lol:

Wanna talk about the certain Nashville vs. St. Louis Western Conference Final matchup this year?

I say Blues in 6. ;):thumbup:

There's nothing wrong with fans of other teams posting here. It's people like you and the person you're responding to that we have a problem with. See if you can spot the difference. This is Matt's house. He lets us play here. When someone invites you to their home, you don't return the favor by s***ting on the carpet.

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Don't waste your breath.

Here's a few tips from a Blues fan who has visited/posted in this forum off and on for the past 10 years...

- When Wings fans here start breaking out the "How many cups have you won?" Just smile and move on. It is very predictable and you can usually see it coming. It's the equivalent of them running out of bullets in a gun fight and throwing the gun. It happens all of the time.

- Some fans here will question why you are posting here. Those fans do not understand the benefit of having other team's fans contribute.

- You will be called a troll by some. Those particular folks do not know what the definition of a forum troll is...as you rightfully pointed out.

- A few members here (usually newbs) will call you names, attack you, ridicule you and harass you, even if you are simply talking hockey. But don't try to laugh it off or God forbid zing them back, you may get a warning from the staff...or maybe that only happens to me. :lol:

Wanna talk about the certain Nashville vs. St. Louis Western Conference Final matchup this year?

I say Blues in 6. ;):thumbup:

Awww look, the Blues fan is getting along with the Predators fan, how cute!

You guys come in here with the excuse that "we're just talking hockey". That's pretty much the equivalent of me poking a bear with a stick and calling it a scientific experiment. You guys are here, pushing buttons, poking us with a stick....don't they have a name for that on the Internet? Oh yeah, TROLLING! It's just like this post above of cprice's...it is not on topic, it is only supporting the Predator's fan on a Red Wing's site, it has no intention being here other than to get under the skin of us Wings' fans....just like the Bertuzzi ping pong incident. Only problem is, this is our ******* house.

Matt wants you guys to be able to come here, and frankly I don't have a problem with that, but when you start putting up all the smoke and mirrors your gentlemen do...well, I'm not allowed to say what I want about that.

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Wanna talk about the certain Nashville vs. St. Louis Western Conference Final matchup this year?

I say Blues in 6. ;):thumbup:

This is the reason we don't want you here. You're right, it is definitely useful and enjoyable when fans of other teams contribute. MacK_Attack is the first person I think of; a Leafs fan, but one whose posts I've always enjoyed reading. (On that note, I feel like I haven't seen him in a while...?)

What we don't want to see - and the reason we use the term troll - is when people come here and all they do is tell us that their team is going to beat ours. I don't see how that contributes to friendly playoff discussion, especially when there's trash-talking involved (not citing any specific examples, just speaking generally). What possible purpose does this serve other than to get a rise out of the forumgoers here? That is, what purpose other than to troll us and hope for a reaction?

Sure, other team's fans are welcome here. But it should be painfully obvious that it's a Red Wings forum and that you (again, a general you, not you necessarily) are opening yourself up to hostile reactions from Red Wings fans when you post something we don't agree with. You might not like it, but nobody's making you come here. If you can't take the heat, don't play with fire.

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Alright, guys. Let's get back to discussing the topic at hand.

Let's leave discussing each other's posting styles, Wings fans or otherwise, to the PM's please.

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Its now being said that Bert just told security that they were playing and security told them to stop.

Should we believe them?

They can say what they want, but in my head it will always happen the way it was originally reported. Bert told them to get their own damn table, then packed up his toys and went home. The End.

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as Jedi pointed out only a few posts ago, please stay on topic.

If you can't keep from taking shots at either city or its fans, this thread will be the ping pong table, I will be Bertuzzi and you will be sad Predators who don't get to play anymore.

:lol: Epic.

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